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    Quote Originally Posted by HankHarvey View Post
    If you think about it, you're probably never going to see a sale for something advertised as being spoiled. If the seller is dishonest they'll connveniently neglect to mention the spoilage. And if they're ethical about it they won't try to sell it, they'll just toss it or give it away. FYI it's usually only Green Valley that ever gets any mention of smelling noticeably "off" in the first place.
    There are lots of claims of "spoiled" scents but nobody ever seems to want to sell them. There is a huge discrepancy, which seems to be statistically impossible. I would also like someone (who is a long-time BN member) to send me a sample of a scent they think is spoiled, because this has conspiracy theory written all over it. And it reminds me of someone I know who said Obama would "destroy America" before he took office. He is still saying that, and my response is, "Obama must be the worst procrastinator of all time!" LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    There are lots of claims of "spoiled" scents but nobody ever seems to want to sell them. There is a huge discrepancy, which seems to be statistically impossible. I would also like someone (who is a long-time BN member) to send me a sample of a scent they think is spoiled, because this has conspiracy theory written all over it. And it reminds me of someone I know who said Obama would "destroy America" before he took office. He is still saying that, and my response is, "Obama must be the worst procrastinator of all time!" LOL.
    This seems like an inherently flawed line of reasoning to me. "Many claim to smell spoiled scents, but no one wants to sell them, thus it seems like a possible conspiracy" - ??? Why would anyone want to sell a spoiled scent? Presumably if you advertise it is spoiled, no one will want to buy it. If you don't and the buyer is angry when they smell it, you have to refund, rendering the transaction pointless. My guess is when scents go bad, people throw them out or give them to someone who doesn't mind the spoilage.

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  4. #64

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    Quote Originally Posted by HankHarvey View Post
    This seems like an inherently flawed line of reasoning to me. "Many claim to smell spoiled scents, but no one wants to sell them, thus it seems like a possible conspiracy" - ??? Why would anyone want to sell a spoiled scent? Presumably if you advertise it is spoiled, no one will want to buy it. If you don't and the buyer is angry when they smell it, you have to refund, rendering the transaction pointless. My guess is when scents go bad, people throw them out or give them to someone who doesn't mind the spoilage.
    There has to be at least a few actual examples of someone saying that the scent may be spoiled. Instead, we get loads of claims but there never seems to be any actual liquid involved. If you want to believe that is reasonable, i can't stop you, but I find it totally unreasonable. And as I said, here I am, willing to buy all that "spoiled" Green Valley. Where are the sellers? And where are the samples of "spoiled" scents? All those claims yet nobody saves a sample? This is just silly! There are too many vintage fans and basically no evidence of "spoilage." This is a "dog that didn't bark" situation, and I do think that spoilage is possible, but if so, it is so obviously very rare that it is laughably unimportant. Those who want perfect top note may be in a different situation but for those of us who want the vintage drydowns, there is basically nothing here that warrants concern, unless one is a "catastrophizer." All IMO of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    There are lots of claims of "spoiled" scents but nobody ever seems to want to sell them. There is a huge discrepancy, which seems to be statistically impossible. I would also like someone (who is a long-time BN member) to send me a sample of a scent they think is spoiled, because this has conspiracy theory written all over it. And it reminds me of someone I know who said Obama would "destroy America" before he took office. He is still saying that, and my response is, "Obama must be the worst procrastinator of all time!" LOL.
    Read my original post - I would like to send a sample to someone to see if my opinion that the scent is spoiled is correct.

    For there to be a conspiracy, you would have to presume that someone somewhere benefits. Who benefits by me having a bottle of Creed MI that doesn't smell like it used to??? Or are you suggesting that this is an elaborate ploy to bash Creed?

    I do not understand your logic
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    I just wonder if some spoilage blame isn't just reformulation or even a change in personal taste. There have been an onslaught of new regs. Unless the bottle has been the same one and the change is truly noticeable.

    In my experience the juice is normally much darker in a spoiled scent and it has to be fairly old or in the light or both. The true scent of bad proper spoilage is a pissy smell. Just like a cat. Old, sour and stale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    There has to be at least a few actual examples of someone saying that the scent may be spoiled. Instead, we get loads of claims but there never seems to be any actual liquid involved. If you want to believe that is reasonable, i can't stop you, but I find it totally unreasonable. And as I said, here I am, willing to buy all that "spoiled" Green Valley. Where are the sellers? And where are the samples of "spoiled" scents? All those claims yet nobody saves a sample? This is just silly! There are too many vintage fans and basically no evidence of "spoilage." This is a "dog that didn't bark" situation, and I do think that spoilage is possible, but if so, it is so obviously very rare that it is laughably unimportant. Those who want perfect top note may be in a different situation but for those of us who want the vintage drydowns, there is basically nothing here that warrants concern, unless one is a "catastrophizer." All IMO of course.
    This comment is borderline incoherent to me. I guess I'll have to leave it at that.
    For the record, I gave my Green Valley to a friend in a bulk discharge of frags I no longer wanted. He kept most of them as far as I know, but he wound up tossing the GV after one wear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mumsy View Post
    I just wonder if some spoilage blame isn't just reformulation or even a change in personal taste. There have been an onslaught of new regs. Unless the bottle has been the same one and the change is truly noticeable.

    In my experience the juice is normally much darker in a spoiled scent and it has to be fairly old or in the light or both. The true scent of bad proper spoilage is a pissy smell. Just like a cat. Old, sour and stale.
    For me, the bottle of MI is the same bottle that I have had for some time. Someone asked earlier how long I have had the bottle and the honest answer is that I can't remember so it must be a number of years. The bottle itself has been through quite a bit including a couple of storage incidents due to flooding but it has not received any noticeable damage.

    To me, the scent has changed a lot from when I first started wearing it - it almost has a dirty smell to it. It could be a change in my perception but I am pretty sure that if someone else tried it side by side with another sample then they could easily spot the difference
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    Read my original post - I would like to send a sample to someone to see if my opinion that the scent is spoiled is correct.

    For there to be a conspiracy, you would have to presume that someone somewhere benefits. Who benefits by me having a bottle of Creed MI that doesn't smell like it used to??? Or are you suggesting that this is an elaborate ploy to bash Creed?

    I do not understand your logic
    Okay, I get it. What I meant is that it seems that a lot of people have the same mindset as those who go around telling everyone about conspiracy theories, because there are so many claims yet so little evidence. I have already pointed out that liquid in the tube of an old spray bottle does seem to sometimes "go bad," though even in those cases the vinegar-like quality dissipates with several minutes and you get the same drydown. And as mumsy said, it seems that some people do get bottles filled with a bad reformulation and then claim it must have "gone bad" in a hot warehouse, or something along those lines. Feel free to PM me about scents you have that you think "went bad" and we can discuss the particulars further. These kinds of general discussions, however, make no sense to me, because as I said, the evidence is so overwhelmingly against this claim that has become laughable, IMO (though I do think there are a tiny number of exceptions). By contrast, the evidence for bad reformulations is something one can go and assess, as I did. And while I was doing that, i should have encountered at least a few clearly "spoiled" scents, especially in the splash bottles, but that did not occur. Nor has it for other "vintage hunters," apparently, unless most are lying, and that brings us back to conspiratorial type thinking (for those who may think this is the case).
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    In my case I threw away the fragrance. .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    Okay, I get it. What I meant is that it seems that a lot of people have the same mindset as those who go around telling everyone about conspiracy theories, because there are so many claims yet so little evidence.
    In this thread alone 18 people have come forward with direct testimony of frags in their possession going "off." I guess that's not enough evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HankHarvey View Post
    In this thread alone 18 people have come forward with direct testimony of frags in their possession going "off." I guess that's not enough evidence.
    Perception can vary widely from one wearing to another, and my guess is that this where most such claims originate (other than where there is a clear conflict of interest, with people selling new scents telling others not to buy any that are more than 10 years old, or something to that effect). And I think this is more likely for newbies and people who are fixated on top notes. By contrast, there are more than a few people, myself included, who possess dozens of very old bottles, and the smell is fabulous. From what I remember, most of the "spoiled" claims have come from people with bottles that are less than 10 years old. Again, it's a "dog that didn't bark" situation. And let's see if anyone who has read this thread ever takes me up on my offer to buy "spoiled" scents. If they throw them in the garbage or give them away, as is so often claimed, they should certainly feel great about me paying them $30 or so instead. My guess is that will never happen, which will be yet more evidence to my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    Perception can vary widely from one wearing to another, and my guess is that this where most such claims originate. And I think this is more likely for newbies and people who are fixated on top notes. By contrast, there are more than a few people, myself included, who possess dozens of very old bottles, and the smell is fabulous. From what I remember, most of the "spoiled" claims have come from people with bottles that are less than 10 years old. Again, it's a "dog that didn't bark" situation. And let's see if anyone who has read this thread ever takes me up on my offer to buy "spoiled" scents. If they throw them in the garbage or give them away, as is so often claimed, they should certainly feel great about me paying them $30 or so instead. My guess is that will never happen, more evidence to my point.
    I thought you were an intellectual grad student of some kind. How can you possibly expect anyone to recognize the fact that nobody wants to sell you samples of spoiled frags they got rid of a long time ago as evidence to support your theory that claims of spoilage are a conspiracy? Again, this is bordering on incoherent to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HankHarvey View Post
    I thought you were an intellectual grad student of some kind. How can you possibly expect anyone to recognize the fact that nobody wants to sell you samples of spoiled frags they got rid of a long time ago as evidence to support your theory that claims of spoilage are a conspiracy? Again, this is bordering on incoherent to me.
    Perhaps you should consult an online dictionary at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    Perhaps you should consult an online dictionary at this point.
    Maybe Mad Libs would be more appropriate.

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    I understand why this thread is scary to some.
    It's the first time I've read so many posts claiming that fragrances go bad.

    I have noticed changes in fragrances. Slight changes.
    All of them were improvements.
    I own l'Eau d'Issey for +/- 6 years now and it smells fine to this day.
    Sparkling fresh.
    The slight change here is that the challenging opening fades a bit faster.
    That, ladies and gentlemen, is an improvement.
    It's the drydown of l'Eau d'Issey that is deadly sexy and garners the compliments.

    I store my fragrances in the box in a closet in my living room.
    You could say that is room temperature but when I take a bottle out of the box, I always notice how cold it feels.

    There are 3 important key factors you should take into consideration.

    1) Experience changes perception
    Let's say you started with aquatics.
    After 5 years you have tested 200 fragrances, ranging from Serge Lutens to MDCI.
    These aquatics might not smell the same to you anymore.

    2) Your nose can have an offday
    I have experienced this phenomenon multiple times.
    On some days, I can smell fragrances very clearly and detect the slightest nuances in high definition.
    On other days, they smell like flat dreck. Or they give me instant nose fatigue and I can't smell them.

    3) Reports of fragrances going bad might be due to bad storage.
    Even if they say that is not the case. Trust me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    Perception can vary widely from one wearing to another, and my guess is that this where most such claims originate
    I have to agree.
    Some fragrances give me a different impression with every wearing.
    Aventus and the exact clone which is AB Spirit Silver have this effect on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HankHarvey View Post
    Maybe Mad Libs would be more appropriate.
    If you want to claim incoherence then go ahead and cite something that confuses you. Otherwise, readers will have to decide for themselves, which is fine with me because I think I have made my position clear. Being trained in investigative techniques, the first thing one must establish is that there is more than "smoke." If not, one would find oneself chasing after every internet conspiracy theory ever posited. In this case, I have a great deal of personal experience, and the "evidence" put forth to the contrary always seems to be "smoke" but never "fire." By contrast there are all the threads and reviews of vintage scents, with hardly any mention of getting "spoiled" bottles, despite buying on sites like ebay, where one has no idea what the storage conditions were. Also worthy of note, many who have swapped with me for vintage have told me how incredibly rich and powerful those scents are. This is an old "debate" and you sound very much like a blogger who has been making a similar claim for a long time now (though banned from BN years ago), just to let others know about that, considering how you joined this site last month and sound awfully familiar to that person in many of your posts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HankHarvey View Post
    In this thread alone 18 people have come forward with direct testimony of frags in their possession going "off."
    I'm not saying that some people are lying, but keep in mind there might be a conflict of interest.
    People who sell fragrances don't want you to enjoy a 40 dollar fragrance for 10 years.
    They want you to come back every 2 years and repurchase that fragrance.
    If you would search for similar topics about this subject, you might find every single poster claiming that they don't go bad.

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    As none of us can actually smell the others fragrances at this point. It is hardly worth an argument.

    We could all smell any examples of each other's 'off' perfumes but even if we did, what would be the point? You either like them still or you don't. We're not really going to achieve anything other than to discuss the methods of preventing it happening with the ones that haven't gone yet.

    Basically it goes something like this:- buy it and keep it in the box, as cool as you can, and if it is a splash bottle then regularly decant into a travelo or the like and use that daily instead of keep opening the main donor bottle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    And let's see if anyone who has read this thread ever takes me up on my offer to buy "spoiled" scents. If they throw them in the garbage or give them away, as is so often claimed, they should certainly feel great about me paying them $30 or so instead. My guess is that will never happen, which will be yet more evidence to my point.
    If you feel strongly that a truly "spoiled" fragrance is exceedingly rare, and you had a chance to get a highly collectible fragrance which you enjoy that someone cast off because they thought it had degraded, would you be willing to pay a fair price for it, or only $30?

    I dont think most people are going to go to the trouble for only $30. More often than not, most will just keep (or throw away) the cologne.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mumsy View Post
    As none of us can actually smell the others fragrances at this point. It is hardly worth an argument.

    We could all smell any examples of each other's 'off' perfumes but even if we did, what would be the point? You either like them still or you don't. We're not really going to achieve anything other than to discuss the methods of preventing it happening with the ones that haven't gone yet.

    Basically it goes something like this:- buy it and keep it in the box, as cool as you can, and if it is a splash bottle then regularly decant into a travelo or the like and use that daily instead of keep opening the main donor bottle.
    Well to be fair let's examine what the OP asked:

    "On this site posters always say that fragrances can last for years. But has anyone ever witnessed a fragrance that went bad? If so, how was your experience? Will just a note disappear? Will it be unwearable and you have to do throw it out (similar to expired food)? Those who have witnessed this, how long did you have the bottle?

    Some of you have hundreds of fragrances from the 80s/90s. So I'm assuming you guys are bound to experience a fragrance going bad."

    First, it would have helped if the OP had pointed to contrary claims (on other sites). Secondly, it's not accurate to say that at BN everyone thinks every scent lasts for "years" (and also, how many is too many?). There was one scent, a "feminine," that back around 2008 or so, people were posting would "go bad" quickly, and that is a good example of "the exception proving the rule," because if there were even just a few others, we would have heard of them. Does anyone remember what that scent was? At the time I wasn't interested in "feminines," so I didn't think much of the whole affair, though for some reason I think it may have been by Givenchy.

    In any case, I think that the OP has gotten what he asked for at this point, at least from me. However, there are some scents that only exist in vintage formulation, so there is no way to know how it compares if you only obtained a bottle recently, and that is putting aside how perceptions can change from one wearing to another. I think the best you can do is to determine what works for you. If you are mostly interested in drydowns, I doubt you will encounter "spoiled" vintage scents. I can't speak to top notes, but the vintage scents I have certainly seem to possess at least fairly strong ones, and they don't smell like vinegar or anything like that, except for some situations I mentioned above. On the other hand, if you don't appreciate vintage drydowns, then you can just go for the recent stuff and not think twice about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRaider430 View Post
    If you feel strongly that a truly "spoiled" fragrance is exceedingly rare, and you had a chance to get a highly collectible fragrance which you enjoy that someone cast off because they thought it had degraded, would you be willing to pay a fair price for it, or only $30?

    I dont think most people are going to go to the trouble for only $30. More often than not, most will just keep (or throw away) the cologne.
    It would depend upon exactly what I'd be getting. For a nearly full 4 ounce sealed bottle of Green Valley, I'd be willing to pay more than $30, and I'd also be willing to swap some nice things, so don't be a stranger! LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRaider430 View Post
    If you feel strongly that a truly "spoiled" fragrance is exceedingly rare, and you had a chance to get a highly collectible fragrance which you enjoy that someone cast off because they thought it had degraded, would you be willing to pay a fair price for it, or only $30?

    I dont think most people are going to go to the trouble for only $30. More often than not, most will just keep (or throw away) the cologne.
    My point exactly.

    I don't know who this blogger is, Bigsly. I can tell you I'm just coming to this site for clear info on frags. Sorry but I get annoyed when people then make mountains out of mole hills. If frags sometimes spoil, that makes sense to me. Like Mumsy says, there shouldn't be an argument over what is a loose consensus in this context. Others have said their frags have survived the years intact. Most of mine have also.

    If it seemed like I was attacking you, it was because you failed to explain how 18 people casually mentioning experiencing spoilage of a frag once or twice in their life constitutes 18 mistaken individuals who are confused about what they're smelling. You're basically telling me that my Green Valley was fine, and I was wrong to get rid of it. Then you're telling me that because I can't sell you a sample of a spoiled perfume that I got rid of years ago, this supports your theory that people are conspiring to make these claims - for no clear reason. That's pretty much what you said. That's what made me comment.

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    I haven't had any but I bought a couple on Ebay that were bad. One was Creed Zesty Mandarine Pamplemousse and it smelled terrible. It was positively revolting. The other was a Chanel Allure that had an off note that ruined the scent. I think that Chanel has been ruined for me forever.
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    I've purchased between 70-100 fragrances on eBay - current formulations, vintage formulations and current releases. I've purchased new and second hand. The only three that have ever been off were :

    1. Cool Water (2nd hand vintage splash bottle EDT with cursive font, no box)
    2. Eau De Rochas Homme (new vintage spray EDT with box)
    3. Eau Sauvage (2nd hand vintage spray EDT, no box.)

    In each case, I have multiple bottles sourced from different places, so a side by side comparison to compare freshness is easy to do. In each case, they just have an off smell that smells (to my nose) like burnt sugar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HankHarvey View Post
    My point exactly.

    I don't know who this blogger is, Bigsly. I can tell you I'm just coming to this site for clear info on frags. Sorry but I get annoyed when people then make mountains out of mole hills. If frags sometimes spoil, that makes sense to me. Like Mumsy says, there shouldn't be an argument over what is a loose consensus in this context. Others have said their frags have survived the years intact. Most of mine have also.

    If it seemed like I was attacking you, it was because you failed to explain how 18 people casually mentioning experiencing spoilage of a frag once or twice in their life constitutes 18 mistaken individuals who are confused about what they're smelling. You're basically telling me that my Green Valley was fine, and I was wrong to get rid of it. Then you're telling me that because I can't sell you a sample of a spoiled perfume that I got rid of years ago, this supports your theory that people are conspiring to make these claims - for no clear reason. That's pretty much what you said. That's what made me comment.
    I did explain why some people think that a scent is "spoiled" but you apparently do not accept the explanation. There's nothing I can do about that - you have a right to state your opinion. I feel that not only have I had enough experience to say that such claims appear to be mountains made out of molehills, in one way or another (again, as I have already explained), but there are a huge number of comments about vintage scents and there are hardly any claims about "spoilage." Most of those claims seem to be made by newbies and most seem to be about much more recent scents (less than ten years old), which again is simply too inconsistent with my vast experience for me to take them seriously. If you want to do that, good for you, and I hope people will listen to you and sell me their "spoiled" Creeds at good prices. Sadly (for me), I doubt a single person will ever do that !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul P View Post
    I've purchased between 70-100 fragrances on eBay - current formulations, vintage formulations and current releases. I've purchased new and second hand. The only three that have ever been off were :

    1. Cool Water (2nd hand vintage splash bottle EDT with cursive font, no box)
    2. Eau De Rochas Homme (new vintage spray EDT with box)
    3. Eau Sauvage (2nd hand vintage spray EDT, no box.)

    In each case, I have multiple bottles sourced from different places, so a side by side comparison to compare freshness is easy to do. In each case, they just have an off smell that smells (to my nose) like burnt sugar.
    Thanks for the specific claim. I recently experienced what I think you referred to as a "burnt sugar" quality with some very old Chanel No. 5 EdC, but it didn't last long and the rest of the scent was excellent. This is why, in my experience, I can't accept the "spoiled" claim unless someone says something like, "I must have perfect top notes or else I do not want it," in which case you can sell them to me, so long as you are willing to give a major discount on the pricing. However, if I really want a specific scent I'd pay higher prices, but I'm not looking for many these days. In any case, that "burnt sugar" thing is not at all uncommon, so that should help the OP - you can read quite a few reviews that mention this. One reviewer said that the first "masculine" scent by Guess smelled like "hot vinyl and overheated electronics," for example, and I understand what he means, but again that lasts for a very short period of time, and since I didn't experience this scent until a few years ago, I assumed that is not a sign of "spoilage." In fact, I have read many reviews of old "feminine" scents in which similar claims were made - that led me to conclude that this was indeed how they smelled a few decades ago (in some reviews this was stated explicitly, though I can't say I know for sure they were telling the truth, obviously). At this point my guess is that most such claims are made by those I call "top notes people," since I have yet to experience a drydown that smelled clearly "spoiled," though as I said I usually can't compare it to what it was like originally, assuming there is a noticeable difference..
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    This thread just got interesting lol........

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    It's boiled down to the word 'spoiled' means different things to different people and that was what the OP seemed to want to know.

    I did however have another completely different thought last night.

    I wondered if newer fragrances going off might be due to the newer sorts of isolates and chemicals that have a different behaviours to the ingredients in the classics of old. If the molecules are singled out to make these new aroma components, then it would be fairly logical that they weren't as anchored in some way and could therefore 'turn' faster. It would also be logical in our throwaway society that this wasn't unintentional.

    Another thought was to write a list here on this very thread of all the scents reputed to be spoiled from any sources and let's have a proper look at what the notes in each fragrance actually are. Maybe in this debating process, we might be missing a discovery of the obvious that is right under our noses so to speak.
    Currently wearing: Montecristo by Masque

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