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    Thanks for letting us know Grant! Your forum, your rules. Take some time for yourself and get some rest!

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    Thanks Ģrant...understandable. As others have mentioned I too am going to miss the splits board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marais View Post
    The heart of this site is the forum and reviews; those are better than any of the rivals.
    l agree.

    Thanks for keeping us posted, Grant. lt's totally understandable that you need to make more time for your family, & l hope some more time for yourself!
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    Well, I for one am not very happy about this decision. I completely understand Grant's need to reclaim his time, but why not find other moderator(s) and let them handle the beast. I get a lot from participation in the marketplace and it is a reason I am a member here at Basenotes. From my perspective the marketplace is an important part of Basenotes uniqueness and it will be missed. When one door closes another opens. I personally think this is a mistake for the future of the site and is not the right solution to the problem as stated. But, that's just my opinion.
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    Thanks Grant, job well done I have to say, and taking "me" time is certainly a reasonable pursuit.

    I'm sure the Marketplace will sort itself out, and things like this always tends to do. If there is continued community demand, it'll find place to live somewhere.

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    Maybe its time Basenotes had some form of paid membership for everyone. Im sure I would be happy to kick the tin to see things like the marketplace remain feasible.
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    Thanks Grant. You are truly appreciated!
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    Very sad news indeed. I almost started taking the split forum for granted, as if it will be there for ever and always... much to my chagrin, in life, this is never true, everything is temporary.

    Thank you for providing such a great platform for us to do splits and swaps on. I wouldn't have near the experience I have now, if it were not for you, Grant, and of course Remik and Palm Beach, it was a great pleasure doing business with you folks too! I really learned a lot from you.

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    Maybe the marketplace should only be for paid members. That would prompt me to upgrade.

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    Perhaps we can keep the Splits section if possible? It offers a lot of us a good way of trying out expensive or hard to get stuff.

    And a request Grant - would be nice if the new forum software is accessible using tapatalk...speaking for myself 99% of the times, I access the forum through tapatalk on the iPad or android mobile.

    If not tapatalk support for some similar software to allow easy access from phone or tablet would be nice.

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    Is it okay to put links in one's signature, such as to the Crystal Flacon site? And what about a signature that stated the person had a specific bottle to sell or swap? Thanks!

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    It's 3.20am here, and I should be asleep, but not able to sleep. so in answer to most of the questions:

    Why can't you get some marketplace moderators / people to look after it?


    I probably could get moderators to look after it – there could be a 3-4 moderators looking after it, but ultimately responsibility lies with me. Yes, there are lots of admin involved with the market place (and a lot of this is to do with the fact that the marketplace takes place on software designed for having conversations rather than dedicated software for its purpose) and although I don't always have the time to spend hours going back and forth between two members, who both (for example) feel they've had a bad deal, -- it's not really a time issue in this case, it's more to do with additional responsibility and brain cycles being taken up by it.


    Can the marketplace sales/swaps/spilts stay?


    If there is a way of keeping it, without me being responsible for it, then yes, but I don't see how that can happen.


    Side note: After a bit of research, there is a marketplace type plug-in by a company called Panjo (which I think Badger & Blade now use) where they take care of all the problems with deals gone bad, but as far as I'm aware there is no facility for trades or splits.




    Will Deals / Discounts stay?


    Yes


    should we not discuss how to possibly save it first? / I'm wondering if we can have a thread to talk about alternatives?


    You are more than welcome to start a thread


    Have you considered creating a disclaimer/contract telling users that you hold no responsibility, and all problems must be resolved though Paypal?


    We basically do that now, though people still run into problems


    Won't you lose traffic/income by getting rid of the marketplace?


    Income, not really. Traffic, perhaps a bit.


    Is it okay to put links in one's signature, such as to the Crystal Flacon site?


    Yes


    what about a signature that stated the person had a specific bottle to sell or swap?


    Yes / or you can link to your wishlist / swap list in your wardrobe.


    I'm sorry that you've had to cut back on a lot of time spent for Basenotes / I completely understand Grant's need to reclaim his time


    I won't really be spending any less time on Basenotes as a result of this. This is a fulltime job. It will however give me the chance to be less stressed about not doing the things I don't have time to do and spend more time doing things on the site that are either personally rewarding, or allow the site to continue to exist


    Maybe its time Basenotes had some form of paid membership for everyone


    It's nice in theory, but I think the site would be dead in 6 months!


    Is it worth doing a Kickstarter to raise funds for more help with the site


    The site needs to be sustainable longterm, and crowdfunding is good for one-off things. There are ways to support the site already including:


    * Being a Basenotes Plus Member
    * Buying Perfumes via the Shopping Section / Links to shops on Directory pages


    It would be nice if the new forum software is accessible using tapatalk. If not tapatalk support for some similar software to allow easy access from phone or tablet would be nice


    It will work on a mobile device without an app, and it will also be compatible with Tapatalk

  13. #43

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    ^ Thanks again Grant. It great to see your open to suggestions.
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    As a relative newbie I find the Splits board invaluable - especially since most of the fragrances would be beyond my reach without it. I understand the need to simplify. Hopefully there can be a way to save the splits section. Thanks again for the great forum.

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    I think this is a wise decision, Grant, for all the reasons you stated.

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    I also hope you keep the splits section open. It is a really helpful segue into a sometimes very expensive hobby; it lets people try some perfumes they would otherwise never buy. This is also one of the few places that prohibit exorbitant profiteering; its really a community effort to bring new people into the fold. I don't think that there is a replacement anywhere that could replace what basenotes does for its members.

    Regarding Panjo, we could just use this site to coordinate splits, but use Panjo to process everything.

    But that being said, I understand why you are doing what you are doing.

    Edit: Read some of the other posts. I agree with the idea of making the Marketplace either a paid or a Plus feature.
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    Grant, maybe you can do an integration with eBates... because there are some nice discounts going through them. If Basenotes can promote follow-through on that, then maybe you can get a little kick back as well.
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    It seemed to me the splits boards were self-monitoring.

    If someone acted up, they posted their name and they were banned from future splits.

    Obviously I dk what was going on behind the scenes but it seemed pretty self-regulating from what I could tell.

    The brutal thing is for a split board to be successful, you need a lot of eyeballs and people interested in different types of fragrances, etc.. It sucks that's basically Facebook or nothing. I don't have a Facebook account and don't intend to get one but that is the place with the most eyeballs it seems.

    It's a shame Grant wasn't better at delegating authority and this place is going by the wayside. Running an internet site is a ton of work, especially if there is no monetary gain. I just found it and love it here and will miss it.

    Good luck to all.

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    http://www.reddit.com/r/fragsplits/

    This is a good place to get splits for those interested.

    Will our feedback ratings be deleted? I suppose we can still arrange swaps\sales via PM, so this info is still valuable. We could also link people from reddit\crystalflacon\facebook to our feedback rating to show that we're trustworthy.

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    The Marketplace to me and dozens of others is essential for this site.
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    Seeking decant/sample of Aramis Calligraphy Rose, Penhaligon's Esprit de Roi, PdE Ambre Russe, Jil Sander Feeling Man ....etc. I have samples to swap.

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    For some reason that reddit page is down I think. Does anyone have a link to the Facebook group / page mentioned above please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfacing View Post
    The Marketplace to me and dozens of others is essential for this site.
    I agree. One of the reasons I'm a paying member here is to support that valuable feature, so this is very disappointing news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raoulduke View Post
    For some reason that reddit page is down I think.
    Works for me. Just Google "frag splits reddit".

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    I'm going to have a look at Panjo this morning and see what it can offer. It may be a solution.

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    The main reason I'm still on BN after all these years (and I'm here since the very beginning) is the marketplace.
    I wouldn't mind paying an annual fee for that.

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    Grant, your baby (basenotes) has enlighten many on the Scent realm and for that I'm eternally grateful for leading me to a perpetual astute understanding plus appreciation of it! Godbless you and your family
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    Thank you for keeping us up to speed Grant. Good luck with whatever you decide.

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    Update on the marketplace -- Please read this thread here

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    This was supposed to happen much sooner.

    Congratulations with your decision!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLS View Post
    This was supposed to happen much sooner.

    Congratulations with your decision!
    Not sure what the congratulations is for. This all sounds like a massive net loss to the community. Good luck to Grant and thanks for all the years of providing such a great service and resource.




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