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    Hi all - after getting lots of help from this thread: http://www.basenotes.net/threads/408289-Lilac-Help! I have put together a fairly nice lilac accord. Please feel free to comment and critique if you think it can be improved. It is a nice cinnamon soapy honey accord. Thanks to everyone that helped on the other thread. This is still a work in progress but it's pretty nice as it is.

    60 Phenyl Ethyl Alcohol
    40 Hydroxitycitronellal
    16 Cinnamic Alcohol
    10 Alpha Terpineol
    10 Heliotropin
    10 Benzyl Acetate
    8 Petitgrain (bigaradier heart from Robertet)
    8 Anise aldehyde
    6 linalool
    4 Ylang Ylang
    4 Cinnamic aldehyde
    4 Phenyl Acetaldehyde
    2 Rose absolute (rose petals by Robertet if you want colorless)
    2 PADMA
    2 Iso Eugenol
    2 Benzaldehyde
    1 Jonquil Absolute
    1 Jasmine abs
    1 Miel Oliffac (honey notes)
    1 Lilial
    0.5 Indole
    2 Methyl Laitone (10%)
    1 Aldehyde C-12 MNA (10%)

    Using natural extractions where possible I managed to get it to 89% natural so it is a lovely soft accord but still packs a punch.

    You can omit the jonquil, and other essential oils (rose and jasmine) if you want to save money - they are there for naturalness and support.
    Last edited by jfrater; 4th July 2015 at 11:55 PM.

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    How do you come up with these so fast?
    Do you make large batches of variations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizan View Post
    How do you come up with these so fast?
    Do you make large batches of variations?
    I do make large batches - if something isn't right I throw it out and start again using notes from the previous batch. I also do this full time - from waking till bedtime so I put many more hours in than most.

    Lots of these are the results of weeks - I just happened to finish a couple off this week. Well - finished until I make more changes

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    Mod, please delete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mnaonbn View Post
    I have not tried it yet, but this looks lovely. Thank you for sharing.
    No prob Note that I made an error (which I have corrected now) in that I listed aldehyde c-12 as 100% - but it is actually meant to be at 10% dilution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfrater View Post
    Hi all - after getting lots of help from this thread: http://www.basenotes.net/threads/408289-Lilac-Help! I have put together a fairly nice lilac accord. Please feel free to comment and critique if you think it can be improved. It is a nice cinnamon soapy honey accord. Thanks to everyone that helped on the other thread. This is still a work in progress but it's pretty nice as it is.

    60 Phenyl Ethyl Alcohol
    40 Hydroxitycitronellal
    16 Cinnamic Alcohol
    10 Alpha Terpineol
    10 Heliotropin
    10 Benzyl Acetate
    8 Petitgrain (bigaradier heart from Robertet)
    8 Anise aldehyde
    6 linalool
    4 Ylang Ylang
    4 Cinnamic aldehyde
    4 Phenyl Acetaldehyde
    2 Rose absolute (rose petals by Robertet if you want colorless)
    2 PADMA
    2 Iso Eugenol
    2 Benzaldehyde
    1 Jonquil Absolute
    1 Jasmine abs
    1 Miel Oliffac (honey notes)
    1 Lilial
    0.5 Indole
    2 Methyl Laitone (10%)
    1 Aldehyde C-12 MNA (10%)

    Using natural extractions where possible I managed to get it to 89% natural so it is a lovely soft accord but still packs a punch.

    You can omit the jonquil, and other essential oils (rose and jasmine) if you want to save money - they are there for naturalness and support.
    I made this up and have to say it's really fantastic!! Really natural smelling!

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    Hi, I like to include some actual lilac in the mix. I made a tincture last season, which has a great fragrance to it. It's fairly dark in color, though.
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    Chris wow I would love to get a whiff of that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharmacist_Blender View Post
    I made this up and have to say it's really fantastic!! Really natural smelling!
    Awesome! I am glad to hear someone likes the end result It is definitely a nice subtle lilac. I am thinking of working on a slight reformulation to open it up a little. For example I think the miel oliffac is not really needed given the inclusion of phenyl acetaldehyde which has nice honey notes anyway.

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    I know, I wish you could smell the tincture. I put a little on my hand today, and the scent is really nice on the skin! But, the only reason I suggested adding something like this to the mix is that, ultimately, it would be a good marketing point to be able to say that real lilac is in the product. I think it's awesome that as it stands, your lilac accord is 89% natural

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    My apologies for resurrecting an old thread, but I found your lilac accord immensely useful, Jfrater. I didn't have all the materials, so I improvised a bit, but it still turned out lovely. I expanded on it a little, to give it a bit of lift and more presence in the top...I also added an airborne pollen dimension to it. The ethereal and perfumed polleny/musky note that permeates from lilac trees has always my favorite aspect of the scent. Thanks again for offering your formula. It has been a lifesaver! I will definitely be using it as my home base for lilac accords in the future.

    Cheers.




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