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    Default Oscar De La Renta Pour Lui Vintage vs Vintage vs New

    Hopefully the picture I attached worked. Anyway I've been on this mission for Pour Lui for a while and.it's finally come to a conclusion.

    The bottle on the right, the one with clear juice...yeah that is the current formulation. Fresh out of the bottle.

    The one in the middle, that's about 95% of the bottles on Ebay that are labeled Vintage. They actually are, I don't know the dates but I'm guessing this formulation may go back all the way to the late 80's. That's just a guess , based on the different bottles and boxes I obtained.

    The difference between these two is not too big. The Vintage does last a bit longer and is a bit stronger, but nothing more than that.

    The bottle on the left is pre 1983...don't know how pre, but pre..lol. They came from a store new stock that shut it's doors in 1983. So I'm sure sometime in 82... As you can tell it's quite a bit darker. This one is HARD to find. At least for me it was. Thought I found it several times, but ended up with the middle formulation instead.

    Now the difference between this one and the others is quite amazing. It's richer, more powerful, and lasts forever and a day. This my friends is my favorite fragrance. To obtain it I had to buy 39 bottles of just that formulation.....yes you read that correctly. 39...39 10 ml mini bottles that came boxed up in a big sealed cardboard box, in which each mini was in a mini box. The lids were all somehow sealed as the first time you open them there is a pop.

    I'm posting this because I wasted too much money chasing this and I'm glad it's over. I'd do it all over again, because the original formulation is absolutely ridiculous and I love it.

    This kind of illustrates how this fragrance has progressed. As far as reformulations go, this one at least stayed true to the idea of the original. Until you wear the original you can't understand why I went off the deep end to find this. Lol

    Whew...can't believe it's over..
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    Default Re: Oscar De La Renta Pour Lui Vintage vs Vintage vs New

    Well worth it IMO. Congrats to you! Enjoy it to the fullest!
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    Crazy how you can see the fragrance slowly die....lol

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    Congratz buddy!
    Well done and you have enough for a loooong time now of which I know it feels good as I got myself enough for life of Kouros vtg, Dolce & Gabbana vtg en Knize Ten vtg, my 3 absolute favs and it makes me feel ''safe and good''!
    My Top '11' :

    - Dolce & Gabbana: Pour Homme (vtg)
    - Paco Rabanne: Pour Homme (vtg)
    - Azzaro: Pour Homme (vtg)
    - Tom Ford: Ombré Leather
    - Guerlain: Héritage (vtg)
    - Mancera: Red Tobacco
    - YSL: Kouros (Fraîcheur)
    - Armani: Acqua di Gio Profumo
    - MPG: Santal Noble
    - Hermes: Terre d'Hermes
    - Amouage: Interlude

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    Dude Knize Ten Vintage? You just made me jealous. That was my original Holy Grail. You just can't find it anymore. At least i could not.

    This journey almost killed me. It's so hard trying to figure out what's what. I bought a tester, a 90 ml, and a 120 ml of other vintage trying to get the right one only to get the middle formula. Or in one case I also bought a 120ml splash that had been emptied and filled with rubbing alcohol. Yeah that was a real boner killer. But like you said I have enough for the rest of my life. I bought 520 ml total. I wear it 5 out of 7 days a week. I'm 44....so yeah I should have enough for the big Valentines dance at Shady Acres Convalescent . I'll be the coolest smelling 95 yr old in the room. By then I'm scared to think what regulations will have done to the Fragrance Industry. Well probably just be wearing signs around our neck that say " imagine I smell like leather with a undertone of vetiver" , until someone has an allergic reaction to the chain holding the sign around our neck. Then we'll have to hold up the sign, while wearing non latex rubber gloves. Ugh just typing that made me sad.



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    Default Re: Oscar De La Renta Pour Lui Vintage vs Vintage vs New

    Vintage Knize Ten are for me the ones of which the batchcodes starting with CH21........or lower (CH20, 19, 18, 17......... etc).
    They are not that hard to find as they were produced till somewhere in 2014. If you see one, just ask for the batch-code which is printed in black on the bottom of the bottles.

    Here a pic of my stash I made! The 30ml on the right below is already empty and I am using the big 125ml now (but mainly during colder weather). Three sprays gives you 12 hrs!



    Batchcode of 125ml bottle on package and bottle bottom CH21365 :
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    My Top '11' :

    - Dolce & Gabbana: Pour Homme (vtg)
    - Paco Rabanne: Pour Homme (vtg)
    - Azzaro: Pour Homme (vtg)
    - Tom Ford: Ombré Leather
    - Guerlain: Héritage (vtg)
    - Mancera: Red Tobacco
    - YSL: Kouros (Fraîcheur)
    - Armani: Acqua di Gio Profumo
    - MPG: Santal Noble
    - Hermes: Terre d'Hermes
    - Amouage: Interlude

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    Is it true that Pour Lui (current) is also discontinued?

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    Quote Originally Posted by exploretoi View Post
    Is it true that Pour Lui (current) is also discontinued?
    It was said so in another thread, so probably yes.
    Here the current version is dirt cheap, so stocking up if one wants is not a problem.
    My Top '11' :

    - Dolce & Gabbana: Pour Homme (vtg)
    - Paco Rabanne: Pour Homme (vtg)
    - Azzaro: Pour Homme (vtg)
    - Tom Ford: Ombré Leather
    - Guerlain: Héritage (vtg)
    - Mancera: Red Tobacco
    - YSL: Kouros (Fraîcheur)
    - Armani: Acqua di Gio Profumo
    - MPG: Santal Noble
    - Hermes: Terre d'Hermes
    - Amouage: Interlude

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    Default Re: Oscar De La Renta Pour Lui Vintage vs Vintage vs New

    Oscar de la Renta pour lui is now distributed by inter parfums and is made in the USA.
    The packaging is the same as the previous cologne distributed by Parfums Stern Neuilly, yet the fragrance is now well under the level it was in terms of longevity and projection.

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    I believe this is the earliest spray bottle design (though this is a splash and I'd avoid those):

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Oscar-De-La...wAAOSwUg9affwk

    I have a spray bottle with this design and it's clearly richer, stronger, and more complex than another Parfums Stern bottle I own (with a common bottle design). Here is some information:

    "Milton Stern, a retired perfume marketing specialist, died of cancer Wednesday at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in Manhattan. He was 77 years old and lived in Greenwich, Conn., and Palm Beach, Fla.

    Mr. Stern founded the Milton Stern Parfum Company, which distributed French perfumes in North America, and Parfums Stern Inc., which distributed American perfumes. In 1987, he sold the companies to Avon Products Inc..."

    https://www.nytimes.com/1989/11/10/o...A64E0F&gwt=pay

    However, it may be that Avon kept the Parfums Stern name, because I can't remember any Oscar de la Renta product with Avon listed anywhere. Does anyone know the history of this? Apparently, Sanofi was also involved in one point, then much later L'Oreal (2009-2014), which sold the license to Inter Parfums. Is this correct? Thanks.

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    Got a couple of backups - no outer package, just the inner corrugated card wrap you get inside the normal outer box (white) , no batch codes - USA made? Any ideas on the provenance of these?
    Currently wearing: Worth pour Homme by Worth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifti View Post
    Got a couple of backups - no outer package, just the inner corrugated card wrap you get inside the normal outer box (white) , no batch codes - USA made? Any ideas on the provenance of these?
    I think you will need to give us a link to pictures or post some pictures in order to get responses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    I believe this is the earliest spray bottle design (though this is a splash and I'd avoid those):

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Oscar-De-La...wAAOSwUg9affwk

    I have a spray bottle with this design and it's clearly richer, stronger, and more complex than another Parfums Stern bottle I own (with a common bottle design). Here is some information:

    "Milton Stern, a retired perfume marketing specialist, died of cancer Wednesday at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in Manhattan. He was 77 years old and lived in Greenwich, Conn., and Palm Beach, Fla.

    Mr. Stern founded the Milton Stern Parfum Company, which distributed French perfumes in North America, and Parfums Stern Inc., which distributed American perfumes. In 1987, he sold the companies to Avon Products Inc..."

    https://www.nytimes.com/1989/11/10/o...A64E0F&gwt=pay

    However, it may be that Avon kept the Parfums Stern name, because I can't remember any Oscar de la Renta product with Avon listed anywhere. Does anyone know the history of this? Apparently, Sanofi was also involved in one point, then much later L'Oreal (2009-2014), which sold the license to Inter Parfums. Is this correct? Thanks.
    Thank you for the information and research. It is much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemmb1 View Post
    Thank you for the information and research. It is much appreciated.
    Sure, and another thing worth considering is the liquid color. The OP said the color was from mini splash bottles, and I've noticed that it's common for splash bottles to have darker color liquid than in the equivalent age sealed spray bottles. My understanding is that this is due to some oxidation over the course of decades, and may change or "spoil" the top notes. I have seen a lot of vintage 70s/80s fragrances with the pale yellow type color, but I'd guess the darker liquid color from the mini splash bottles was not how they originally appeared, and therefore I would not suggest anyone rely upon that color being indicative of "deep vintage" for this or any other scent of that era, unless it is known for sure that dark color was original.

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    Default Re: Oscar De La Renta Pour Lui Vintage vs Vintage vs New

    I haven't caught up with the whole thread but as a Pour Lui fan boy I'll say that this one really needs the oakmoss and the latest IFRA jus just doesn't work.

    Luckily the pre-heavy-reform stuff is still fantastic and quite available.

    Look for the tall skinny 50 ml box with POUR LUI on the front about 1/3rd from the top having no square or shading around the words. On the reverse side the last ingredient listed is in quotes: "2OB02-1."

    Caveat emotir— the newest IFRA approved jus went back to a design nearly the same as early production so definitely don't get that mixed up with old vintage.

    This is a dandy chypre and it needs bright top notes so I don't encourage too much hunting for deep vintage unless you're willing to gamble and the price is right.

    I find the stuff I mentioned macerates nicely so get some air into it, take off some decant if you want, or use with abandon and in a year or so I believe you can tell the difference.

    Cheers,
    /Acey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    I think you will need to give us a link to pictures or post some pictures in order to get responses.
    Cool yeah my bad!
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    Currently wearing: Worth pour Homme by Worth

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    Quote Originally Posted by AceyMan View Post
    the stuff I mentioned macerates nicely so get some air into it, take off some decant if you want, or use with abandon and in a year or so I believe you can tell the difference.
    /Acey
    100% with this.
    Currently wearing: Worth pour Homme by Worth

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    Default Re: Oscar De La Renta Pour Lui Vintage vs Vintage vs New

    The pyramid looks promising.
    How is this version from Notino?
    https://www.notino.co.uk/oscar-de-la...lette-for-men/
    Currently wearing: Jaïpur Homme by Boucheron

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    Default Re: Oscar De La Renta Pour Lui Vintage vs Vintage vs New

    Quote Originally Posted by AceyMan View Post
    I haven't caught up with the whole thread but as a Pour Lui fan boy I'll say that this one really needs the oakmoss and the latest IFRA jus just doesn't work.

    Luckily the pre-heavy-reform stuff is still fantastic and quite available.

    Look for the tall skinny 50 ml box with POUR LUI on the front about 1/3rd from the top having no square or shading around the words. On the reverse side the last ingredient listed is in quotes: "2OB02-1."

    Caveat emotir— the newest IFRA approved jus went back to a design nearly the same as early production so definitely don't get that mixed up with old vintage.

    This is a dandy chypre and it needs bright top notes so I don't encourage too much hunting for deep vintage unless you're willing to gamble and the price is right.

    I find the stuff I mentioned macerates nicely so get some air into it, take off some decant if you want, or use with abandon and in a year or so I believe you can tell the difference.

    Cheers,
    /Acey
    I actually like the newer stuff. A bit crude, and the opening reminds me more of hair spray, but it soon gets to something that smells good. Sort of in the Tsar/Bogart Signature realm of scents, and in that price range also which means a bargain.
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    Black Comme des Garçons, Borneo 1834 Serge Lutens, Patchouli Santa Maria Novella

    Currently wearing: Patchouly by Etro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emanuel76 View Post
    The pyramid looks promising.
    How is this version from Notino?
    https://www.notino.co.uk/oscar-de-la...lette-for-men/
    I've had around 5 bottles (!) Over that last year, I reckon all have been newer formulations. Notino is also very likely new stock . No problems. Still rich and lush .
    Macerates real good.
    From the link I guess you're in the UK? Try eBay, you'll save a few ££ on post. They're going for around he same £18-20 with free postage😃
    Currently wearing: Worth pour Homme by Worth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifti View Post
    I've had around 5 bottles (!) Over that last year, I reckon all have been newer formulations. Notino is also very likely new stock . No problems. Still rich and lush .
    Macerates real good.
    Thank you, Ifti!
    I ordered one bottle of Pour Lui and a vial sample of Lagerfeld Classic.
    Currently wearing: Jaïpur Homme by Boucheron

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    If the pictures were larger and I could read the label I might be able to help. Also, what does the sprayer look like? Does it have a "collar" around it?




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