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View Poll Results: Which niche fragrance house makes the highest quality and least synthetic smelling fragrances?

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  • Xerjoff

    10 23.81%
  • House of Matriarch

    3 7.14%
  • Fragrance Du Bois

    1 2.38%
  • Areej le Dore

    12 28.57%
  • Slumberhouse

    3 7.14%
  • Jo Malone

    2 4.76%
  • Acqua Di Parma

    3 7.14%
  • Jo Loves

    0 0%
  • Armani

    1 2.38%
  • Santa Maria Novella

    0 0%
  • Hiram Green

    2 4.76%
  • Providence Perfume Co

    1 2.38%
  • Miller Harris

    1 2.38%
  • Henry Jacques

    1 2.38%
  • Parle Moi de Parfum

    0 0%
  • Abel Perfumes Amsterdam

    0 0%
  • Comme des Garçons

    2 4.76%
  • Arquiste

    0 0%
  • Cire Trudon

    0 0%
  • Le Galion

    0 0%
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    Thought I would make another poll with new suggestions. Trying to work out the best quality niche fragrance house
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    Should have added Parfums de Marly. Crap
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    Default Re: Which Niche Fragrance House Is The Highest Quality And The Least Synthetic #2

    Fragrance Du Bois
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    Xerjoff

    House of Matriarch is right there too.
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    I still don't know.

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    Can you please define what you mean by "synthetic." It can have a number of meanings and connotations so just to make sure we're all on the same page here, what does "synthetic" mean to you?
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    Default Re: Which Niche Fragrance House Is The Highest Quality And The Least Synthetic #2

    Are you looking for a fragrance house that uses all-natural ingredients, as opposed to "aromachemicals"? Or the house that has the most natural-smelling fragrances?

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    Default Re: Which Niche Fragrance House Is The Highest Quality And The Least Synthetic #2

    Areej le Dore, for sure. Adam sources and distills his own oud, sandalwood and other various materials. Macerates his own deer musk...I mean you just can't do that on a larger scale so it's hard to compare other houses to Areej based on quality. Slumberhouse is the closest in terms of quality, IMO.

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    Default Re: Which Niche Fragrance House Is The Highest Quality And The Least Synthetic #2

    Xerjoff!

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    Default Re: Highest Quality Least Synthetic Niche Fragrance House #2

    Quote Originally Posted by FragGuy View Post
    Should have added Parfums de Marly. Crap
    Nope.

    Parfums De Marly is heavy handed with the chemicals, especially in their bases. Some of their scents smell blatantly chemical. Some of their scents do smell good, but in terms of quality, I'd put them LOW on the list, not high.
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    Default Re: Which Niche Fragrance House Is The Highest Quality And The Least Synthetic #2

    Quote Originally Posted by FragGuy View Post
    Thought I would make another poll with new suggestions. Trying to work out the best quality niche fragrance house
    The problem with a term like "best" is that it's meaningless without descriptors. Even "Best Quality" can mean many things.

    Best quality in terms of smell?
    Best quality in terms of performance?
    Best quality in terms of the ingredients used?
    Best quality in terms of what percent of the ingredients are natural?

    If you're thinking "Yeah, all of that" well, that doesn't work. Go to the produce department in a grocery store and you can see that not all natural ingredients are the same quality. That's true of synthetics too. Some synthetics are high quality and others are crap. So, using synthetics doesn't mean low quality. Likewise, using more natural ingredients tends to mean poorer performance (sadly). This is especially true for citruses.

    All fragrance houses use synthetics, but some perfumers do a better job of using them in ways that still smell natural. But even if a house creates scents that smell natural, it doesn't mean they'll be scents you'll want to wear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buysblind View Post
    Can you please define what you mean by "synthetic." It can have a number of meanings and connotations so just to make sure we're all on the same page here, what does "synthetic" mean to you?
    Quote Originally Posted by RichMan'sOldSpice View Post
    Are you looking for a fragrance house that uses all-natural ingredients, as opposed to "aromachemicals"? Or the house that has the most natural-smelling fragrances?
    I agree.

    What do you actually want to know?
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    This whole line of thinking is horribly misinformed.

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    Xerjoff probably.

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    Default Re: Which Niche Fragrance House Is The Highest Quality And The Least Synthetic #2

    Definitely CdG. They’re totally not known for making many of their scents smell synthetic on purpose and having a scent series named Synthetic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darjeeling View Post
    Definitely CdG. They’re totally not known for making many of their scents smell synthetic on purpose and having a scent series named Synthetic
    Another vote for CdG

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    Default Re: Which Niche Fragrance House Is The Highest Quality And The Least Synthetic #2

    I tried about 30% of what you have on your list.

    Of those, on your list.

    Hiram Green is superb in every scent they've produced. No noticeable Aroma Chemical.

    Fragrance Du Bois I have found, with the limited amount of their selection I've tried also Superb. No noticeable.

    Henry Jacques I have only sniffed on paper, however I noted, no apparent Aroma-Chemical.

    Aftel, in my experience testing, is free from any alarming Aroma-Chemical.

    All are High Quality scents.

    Others are O'Driu, Fazzolari.
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    Default Re: Which Niche Fragrance House Is The Highest Quality And The Least Synthetic #2

    Yes, what's the most expensive and best smelling oils out there? The least synthetic would have to be some type of water or oil made from 100% natural ingredients right? Nearly everything else has some synthetics, correct?

    I'll vote Aromatic Infusions' rose water. Lovely stuff, and very refreshing as well. But it's not expensive, and my experience with these is overall very limited.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jabar View Post
    This whole line of thinking is horribly misinformed.
    It's "best quality by consensus, with no clear discussion of what is quality". What could possibly be misinformed about it? We'll count up the votes and that will be the answer!

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    Default Re: Which Niche Fragrance House Is The Highest Quality And The Least Synthetic #2

    Roja
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    Default Re: Which Niche Fragrance House Is The Highest Quality And The Least Synthetic #2

    If you want natural I recommend seeking out a brand that only uses naturally occurring materials.
    "Highest Quality" and Natural may not be synonymous.

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    With those selections, I'd think smelling "least synthetic" would be low on your list. Sorry.
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    Best quality in terms of which percentage of ingredients used are natural and not synthetic
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    Default Re: Which Niche Fragrance House Is The Highest Quality And The Least Synthetic #2

    Quote Originally Posted by FragGuy View Post
    Best quality in terms of which percentage of ingredients used are natural and not synthetic
    Even that's not so clear cut, as there are nature-identical synthetics, where the compounds are synthesized in a lab, but are identical to what is found in nature.

    To at least partially answer your question, both House of Matriarch and Slumberhouse offer fragrances made from 100% naturally obtained ingredients.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FragGuy View Post
    Best quality in terms of which percentage of ingredients used are natural and not synthetic
    Here's an example of why that approach won't work.

    Nio by Xerjoff is one of the most natural smelling citrus scents I've ever tried. But there's a huge difference between smelling natural and BEING natural. I promise you without a shadow of a doubt that Nio is loaded with synthetics. It is absolutely loaded with them.

    ...but I said it smells natural. So... what gives?

    Nio is a big, beautiful, rich citrus scent with excellent longevity. In order to get that kind of longevity from citrus, Xerjoff has to be using synthetics because citrus notes do not last... but they sure do last in Nio. That's the genius in what Xerjoff has created.

    In my opinion, you're better off worrying less about percentages and more about what smells good to you. Sample from different houses and figure out which house has a style that clicks with you.


    Quote Originally Posted by MegaMav View Post
    "Highest Quality" and Natural may not be synonymous.
    THIS.

    Again, look no further than Nio for proof. Nio is very high quality, but it isn't the most natural fragrance (though it sure does smell natural). Another great example is the citrus/fruit note in Aventus. They list it as pineapple, but it's not, and that's A-OK because notes are just marketing. It's the smell that matters, and that note (which is mostly synthetic) smells fantastic. It's mostly synthetic but it doesn't smell synthetic, and it definitely doesn't smell chemical or harsh. That's what matters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darjeeling View Post
    Definitely CdG. They’re totally not known for making many of their scents smell synthetic on purpose and having a scent series named Synthetic
    CdOMG!

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    Abel Perfumes Amsterdam ( https://www.abelodor.com )

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    Default Re: Which Niche Fragrance House Is The Highest Quality And The Least Synthetic #2

    Quote Originally Posted by L'Homme Blanc Individuel View Post
    Here's an example of why that approach won't work.

    Nio by Xerjoff is one of the most natural smelling citrus scents I've ever tried. But there's a huge difference between smelling natural and BEING natural. I promise you without a shadow of a doubt that Nio is loaded with synthetics. It is absolutely loaded with them.

    ...but I said it smells natural. So... what gives?

    Nio is a big, beautiful, rich citrus scent with excellent longevity. In order to get that kind of longevity from citrus, Xerjoff has to be using synthetics because citrus notes do not last... but they sure do last in Nio. That's the genius in what Xerjoff has created.

    In my opinion, you're better off worrying less about percentages and more about what smells good to you. Sample from different houses and figure out which house has a style that clicks with you.




    THIS.

    Again, look no further than Nio for proof. Nio is very high quality, but it isn't the most natural fragrance (though it sure does smell natural). Another great example is the citrus/fruit note in Aventus. They list it as pineapple, but it's not, and that's A-OK because notes are just marketing. It's the smell that matters, and that note (which is mostly synthetic) smells fantastic. It's mostly synthetic but it doesn't smell synthetic, and it definitely doesn't smell chemical or harsh. That's what matters.



    CdOMG!

    Nio is, IMO the most natural fragrance I've ever smelled and honestly, I don't know if it's using synthetics. My nose and brain sure are fooled if they are. And you make a good point that for citrus to last that long, something synthetic could be at play. Xerjoff in general has a fine reputation for smelling 'natural' on their fragrances overall, not just with Nio. What matters is what your nose tells you, not what the perfumer used. My nose says Xerjoff = 'natural'. My nose is very fallible. The whole point of fragrance-making is to recreate believable scents in a liquid spray essence. If your nose says it's natural (or whatever the perfumer intended) then they perfumer did their job. Nio, for me, was a mind-blowing fragrance. I didn't think any fragrance could smell so natural. The citrus smelled like I cut a bergamot lime open and smelled it. Even the acidity of the citrus in the scent was there. If you appreciate fragrances done right then Nio should be on your "to try" list. I bought a $25 5ml sample. I still have a few uses in the sample remaining. It still stands as the most natural smelling fragrance I have encountered yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by purecaramel View Post
    Hiram Green is superb in every scent they've produced. No noticeable Aroma Chemical.
    Agreed. Gets my vote without hesitation
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    Default Re: Which Niche Fragrance House Is The Highest Quality And The Least Synthetic #2

    It's tough to pin house vs house, but I chose and earlier recommended House of Matriarch because they have organic and natural ingredients

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    Quote Originally Posted by FragGuy View Post
    Best quality in terms of which percentage of ingredients used are natural and not synthetic
    Ah! I think I can say with reasonable confidence that no one here really has any idea about the overall percentage of natural vs synthetic ingredients. Perfume companies don't publish their ingredients (although there are a few specialty companies that claim to be mostly natural), so we have no real objective way to know. It might be more interesting to ask "which house has perfumes that smell the most natural", since that's subjective, and many of us do have opinions on natural smelling. It's perfectly illustrated by the Xerjoff Nio conversation above, with which I agree ... definitely more natural-smelling, but none of us really know even a rough percentage of natural vs synthetic ingredients, only the chemists at Xerjoff know that

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    i still dont know as i havent tried enough fragrances from these houses
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    April Aromatics should get some attention for someone looking for something more natural.
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    2. Brückner - Aoud 1
    3. Creed - Royal Oud
    4. Stéphane Humbert Lucas 777 - Generation Man
    5. Armani Privé - Oud Royal
    6. by Kilian - Straight to Heaven
    7. Stéphane Humbert Lucas 777 - Mortal Skin
    8. Ormonde Jayne - Black Gold
    9. Creed - Royal English Leather
    10. by Kilian - Cruel Intentions

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