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    Default What is this chocolate smell?

    I put my favorite perfume on a smelling strip and after 5 days on this smelling strip, all that is left is a chocolate smell. It's like walking into a See's candy store or opening a packet of hot chocolate. It's not exactly sweet but not bitter, maybe a bit powdery and creamy chocolate. Does anyone have any idea what it could be? After 5 days it must be an aroma chemical. I'm new at making perfume and all I have mixed so far are essential oils. I want to start working with aroma chemicals next but I'm still doing my research before I purchase any. Your feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thank you !
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    Default Re: What is this chocolate smell?

    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessGigi View Post
    I put my favorite perfume on a smelling strip and after 5 days on this smelling strip, all that is left is a chocolate smell. It's like walking into a See's candy store or opening a packet of hot chocolate. It's not exactly sweet but not bitter, maybe a bit powdery and creamy chocolate. Does anyone have any idea what it could be? After 5 days it must be an aroma chemical. I'm new at making perfume and all I have mixed so far are essential oils. I want to start working with aroma chemicals next but I'm still doing my research before I purchase any. Your feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thank you !
    Jean Claude Ellena says this in the diary of a nose:

    The aroma of cocoa beans alone is made up of hundreds of molecules, but, by roasting the beans, man has given this distinctive flavour a very human complexity because he has tripled the number of odorous components. This juxtaposition of smells demonstrates that perfumers are above all illusionists. isobutyl phenyl acetate vanillin To ‘make’ plain chocolate, I recommend adding patchouli; for a ganache, a trace of civet; for ‘orangette’, 7 orange zest; for an After Eight, spearmint; and for the smell of cocoa powder, concrete of iris.


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    Default Re: What is this chocolate smell?

    Vanilla, pyrazine, clear wood/ patchouli, heliotropin

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    Default Re: What is this chocolate smell?

    Chocolate is half vanillin, the other half is maybe what RSG mentions...
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    Default Re: What is this chocolate smell?

    Quote Originally Posted by pkiler View Post
    Chocolate is half vanillin, the other half is maybe what RSG mentions...
    This looks like the one

    isobutyl phenylacetate

    http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/data/rw1006811.html

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    Default Re: What is this chocolate smell?

    Isobutyl acetate doesn't last long enough much less five days.

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    Default Re: What is this chocolate smell?

    Quote Originally Posted by RSG View Post
    Isobutyl acetate doesn't last long enough much less five days.
    True.

    Which perfume is this out of interest?

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    Default Re: What is this chocolate smell?

    RSG thats what was so difficult about identifying the note, after 5 days everything else was gone except that chocolate smell. I don't have any essential oils that last that long so it must be an aroma chemical and I don't have any experience with aroma chemicals yet. Everyone has a different interpretation of scents, to me it smells like chocolate but to someone else it might smell like vanilla or roses.
    Currently wearing: Verveine by Fragonard

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    Aseewald its Fragonard Verveine.
    Currently wearing: Verveine by Fragonard

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    That's why Paul and I recommend the ingredients we did because they are all 400 hour plus ingrediants. They must be to stick around. Vanilla, chocolate and patchouli can be natural, heliotropin can be a natural isolate. I'd also suggest they're might even be a lactone or musk component.

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    Default Re: What is this chocolate smell?

    Ingredients I found elsewhere include Coumarin and benzoin. Thats definitely sweet and powdery.

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    Default Re: What is this chocolate smell?

    I wasn't looking for sweet and powdery or a natural. I have used benzoin and its more spicy sweet vanilla and I don't like coumarin or tonka. Since I have been mixing so many naturals I was hoping to get more aroma chemical suggestions to add with naturals. You said that isobutyl phenyl acetate doesn't last long enough but its scent profile is in the right direction. I was researching isobutavan too. As for patchouli, it smells like vetiver to me, similar to wet earth and I haven't mixed it with anything, I might try using it now.
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    Default Re: What is this chocolate smell?

    For chocolate I prefer clearwood for a cleaner patchouli type

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    Default Re: What is this chocolate smell?

    I will try the clearwood and patchouli along with the other things you mentioned soon. Thank you!
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