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    Default Platinum Egoiste: The fragrance of murderers and terrorists?

    I guess even social pariahs need sweaters and perfumes.

    (This article is three years old, but I don't recall seeing it mentioned on Basenotes before. Apologies if it has been.)

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...anel-fragrance

    As the leisurewear outfit Lacoste discovered during the trial of Anders Breivik, there is such a thing as negative publicity. Breivik’s proud displays of their pullovers, as he explained his reasoning for murdering 77 people, mostly children, led to Lacoste requesting police intervention to end his remorseless product placement.

    Bad news for Lacoste, good news for Chanel, as it threw people off the scent of Breivik’s other big brand passion: Platinum Egoiste, Chanel’s cologne “expressing energy, light and virility, with the warmth of exotic woods”. His followers still ship him bottles in prison along with books and CDs and Knights Templar cufflinks, though one chap on the Commander Breivik Report online forum did express some queasiness: “I wouldn’t feel entirely comfortable sending another man some perfume.”

    At the weekend an unlikely nasal-mate for Breivik was revealed: senior Islamic State commander Abou Bilel, who, it turns out, is also a fan of Chanel’s virile spritz – albeit Egoiste original, the non-Platinum version. A French journalist posing as a potential jihadi bride was asked to pick him up a couple of duty-free bottles en route to Syria.

    To have one terrorist endorsing your product may be regarded as unfortunate. To have two looks downright creepy. That both are at opposite ends of the ideological spectrum somehow adds to the infelicity. Two men, divided by belief, united by scent – and a horrific list of crimes.

    So what exactly is Egoiste’s special allure? From a quick sniff of Platinum in Boots I didn’t detect much more than lemons, with a top note of Toilet Duck. More expert opinion can be found in Luca Turin and Tania Sanchez’s fabulously catty 2008 fragrance guide, Perfume. Though there’s praise for the original, the diffusion is, they say, “extraordinarily bad … reeks of the sad male clone it was intended for”, while that name is “like a credit card for tight-fisted sugar daddies”. It’s true: you would have to be a special type of self-aggrandiser to say “I’m wearing Platinum Egoiste” without gagging.

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    Default Re: Platinum Egoiste: The fragrance of murderers and terrorists?

    Platinum Egoiste is the best metallic fragrance out there.

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    Default Re: Platinum Egoiste: The fragrance of murderers and terrorists?

    I like it's woody feel and gentle floral overtones.
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    Default Re: Platinum Egoiste: The fragrance of murderers and terrorists?

    Funny that you comment on this today since it was my SOD.

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    Default Re: Platinum Egoiste: The fragrance of murderers and terrorists?

    As usual - frag-noob journalists think that jihadi-beloved …goÔste and neo-nazi-beloved Platinum …goÔste are the same thing, when they're really quite different.
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    Default Re: Platinum Egoiste: The fragrance of murderers and terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    As usual - frag-noob journalists think that jihadi-beloved …goÔste and neo-nazi-beloved Platinum …goÔste are the same thing, when they're really quite different.
    I think she made the distinction when describing Bilel's scent choice, didn't she?

    Or were you referring to the difference between neo-nazis and jihadis?

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    Default Re: Platinum Egoiste: The fragrance of murderers and terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cook.bot View Post
    I think she made the distinction when describing Bilel's scent choice, didn't she?
    Barely, IMO. Taken as a whole, she lumps them together. The BN club (men and women) has always swooned over rosy, woody, old-school …goÔste. and held "Hugo Boss fougŤre" PE in varying degrees of contempt. Fans of one tend not to be fans of the other. Indeed, both of these guys are scenting near the middle of their culture stereotypes. There's actually an interesting story there, but she's running right past it for clickbait. The difference is more instructive than the similarity, in this case, but not as easily and safely scandalous.

    I think she was playing some safe Coco insinuations as well. Editor may have scrubbed anything too overt. Guardian being Guardian!

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    Or were you referring to the difference between neo-nazis and jihadis?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post

    I think she was playing some safe Coco insinuations as well. Editor may have scrubbed anything too overt.
    Ooo, I didn't think of that. Good catch!

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    Default Re: Platinum Egoiste: The fragrance of murderers and terrorists?

    After reading through the source link, I almost clicked on the red font donate link at the bottom of the article. But the I shook off the nonsense and my inner conspiracy theorist awoke to wonder just who I'd really be supporting by doing so. Hmm. Well played Guardian. You almost got me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    As usual - frag-noob journalists think that jihadi-beloved …goÔste and neo-nazi-beloved Platinum …goÔste are the same thing, when they're really quite different.
    Right. They're nothing alike, so the connection there is tenuous at best.
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    Default Re: Platinum Egoiste: The fragrance of murderers and terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diddy View Post
    After reading through the source link, I almost clicked on the red font donate link at the bottom of the article. But the I shook off the nonsense and my inner conspiracy theorist awoke to wonder just who I'd really be supporting by doing so. Hmm. Well played Guardian. You almost got me.
    The trust that owns the Guardian reinvests profits in journalism, rather than passing them on to shareholders.

    On topic, I love the "fabulously catty" description of Turin and Sanchez' opus!

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    L'eau d'Oppression by Parfums Despots Terribles

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    Default Re: Platinum Egoiste: The fragrance of murderers and terrorists?

    Well, Platinum …goÔste does terrorise my nose, so I am not surprised that it’s in cahoots with actual terrorists.
    I always knew that one was a bad egg.

    You say the real …goÔste is liked by terrorists as well? Sounds like slander and hogwash, …goÔste would not hang out with a crowd like that...
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    Default Re: Platinum Egoiste: The fragrance of murderers and terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by crashtestbrummie View Post
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    On topic, I love the "fabulously catty" description of Turin and Sanchez' opus!
    That IS great!!!

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    LOL!!!
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    Default Re: Platinum Egoiste: The fragrance of murderers and terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by hednic View Post
    I like it's woody feel and gentle floral overtones.
    Yes, some good sense into a wide discusiůn ... to me Platinum Egoist has a soft spice that I wouldn't call metallic (like an Azzaro Chrome), and more masculine, while the original Egoist actually has a bit of the chanel feminine perfumes vibe to it.
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    Default Re: Platinum Egoiste: The fragrance of murderers and terrorists?

    I distinctly remember reading this part in The Guardian when it was first published because I was on the hunt for vintage Egoiste at the time:

    At the weekend an unlikely nasal-mate for Breivik was revealed: senior Islamic State commander Abou Bilel, who, it turns out, is also a fan of Chanel’s virile spritz – albeit Egoiste original, the non-Platinum version. A French journalist posing as a potential jihadi bride was asked to pick him up a couple of duty-free bottles en route to Syria.
    Thanks for digging this article up. Going to give it a thorough read when I get the chance.

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    Default Re: Platinum Egoiste: The fragrance of murderers and terrorists?

    As usual none of the story can be independently verified by its readers, as entertaining as it was...

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    For a split second I thought Abou Bilel was an anagram of Bel Ami

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    Chanel, capitalist pigs who's vile products are used by terrorists (Article written on an Apple Mac)

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    Default Re: Platinum Egoiste: The fragrance of murderers and terrorists?

    When I grow up, I want to be "fabulously catty"!

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    As usual none of the story can be independently verified by its readers, as entertaining as it was...
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    For a split second I thought Abou Bilel was an anagram of Bel Ami
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    Chanel, capitalist pigs who's vile products are used by terrorists (Article written on an Apple Mac)
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    Great. This is slated for use tomorrow. I wonder if it will give me any urge to watch American Psycho. We'll see.
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    Default Re: Platinum Egoiste: The fragrance of murderers and terrorists?

    A nice fragrance regardless who wears it.
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