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    Default Miller Harris - Fragrance Discussion

    I recently picked up two fragrances from Miller Harris. la fumee arabie and la fumee intense. From my initial testing I am really enjoying both of these.

    There isn't much recent discussion about this house. What are the hits and misses from this house?

    On a side note it looks like Miller Harris and Roja Parfums use the same bottles or bottling company as the bottles of the two I bought are almost identical to the original 100ML EDP releases from Roja except for the sprayer nozzle and cap.

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    La Fumée Maroc is also nice. Much drier than the others.

    MH has a very wide range and the La Fumées are quite unlike the rest. It depends what you are looking for.

    Do a general search for samples etc, as you would for any other house, and just see what sticks.

    Feuilles de Tabac is a must if you like classic tobacco scents. Fleurs de Sel is a fantastic clove heavy vetiver, with a salty, sea air quality. Vetiver Insolent is a nice fireside, whisky, peppery vetiver...great for winter.

    I also enjoy -
    La fumée Ottoman
    Tea Tonique
    Veti Vert
    Verger
    Terre D'Iris
    Étui Noir
    Le Pamplemousse
    Fleur de Matin

    All for very different reasons. It's a great house, very worth the effort.

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    Interesting find about the bottles, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HFMIII View Post
    I recently picked up two fragrances from Miller Harris. la fumee arabie and la fumee intense. From my initial testing I am really enjoying both of these.
    Which one do you seem to like more?
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    Very under rated in my opinion. They're often overlooked in favour of some of the more 'flavour of the month' houses but they do have a lot of quality fragrances. I picked up Etui Noir recently and was pleasantly surprised

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmolive View Post
    Interesting find about the bottles, thanks.
    I thought so, the necks are even the same and caps are interchangeable. The Roja sprayer is more of a fine mist vs the Miller Harris though.

    Quote Originally Posted by hednic View Post
    Which one do you seem to like more?
    I'm not 100% decided yet. The incense note is similar, yet there are some big differences. With the intense from the limited testing I did on one arm I get the incense, cardamom, and chamomile. I still need to give it a full wearing. With the Arabie it seems darker and more dusty and Birch plays a prominent role in this fragrance. I guess if I had to choose at this point I'm leaning more towards Arabie, but I do like both.

    Quote Originally Posted by FlashingBlade View Post
    Very under rated in my opinion. They're often overlooked in favour of some of the more 'flavour of the month' houses but they do have a lot of quality fragrances. I picked up Etui Noir recently and was pleasantly surprised
    I think you are right. It's definitely worth experiencing these as I feel they use quality ingredients and are very well blended, especially if you find them like I did for $49.99 for 100 ML bottles at TJ Maxx. I went out again today and picked up a 100 ML bottle of la fumee ottoman at a different TJ same price. I'll let you know what I think after I fool around with it.
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    La Fumee Classic is a good one, similar to Encens Flamboyant.

    Favourites that l've tried are L'Air de Rien (very sensual & animalic) & Fleur Oriental, a classically powdery oriental.
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    Never noticed this.
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    I just picked up Arabie a few days ago. I like it a lot more than I thought I would as I am usually not big on rose notes. I do wish it had a bit more projection and longevity on me, but the scent itself has really grown on me.

    I'm thinking about picking up Le Fumee Ottoman or Intense. Recommendations?

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    All the ones I've tried (a mere handful) have at least been "good". The question with this brand is performance and relative worth, as to my way of thinking they were overpriced. Now that you can find them for as low as $60, instead of the $180 they were originally, they're quite good buys. Before they weren't at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HFMIII View Post
    I thought so, the necks are even the same and caps are interchangeable. The Roja sprayer is more of a fine mist vs the Miller Harris though.
    Yep and that alone must equate to the zillion percent difference in markups!

    I've tried Vetiver Insolent which a warm, spicy vetiver thats easy to wear and performs well along with the dry Feuilles de Tabac which, for once, isn't a tobacco drenched in sweetness as it has a heavy dollop of pine instead. Both were well crafted but missing that "special something" that makes you hammer a sample and then want a bottle.

    Their 14ml pocket perfume range is a great idea though so I may have to try others at some point, reading the thread with interest for others impressions of the range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmolive View Post
    I've tried Vetiver Insolent which a warm, spicy vetiver thats easy to wear and performs well along with the dry Feuilles de Tabac which, for once, isn't a tobacco drenched in sweetness as it has a heavy dollop of pine instead. Both were well crafted but missing that "special something" that makes you hammer a sample and then want a bottle.
    All their Vetivers are good, mostly because they don't muck around much. Vetiver Bourbon is about as straight a vetiver as you're likely to find. Insolent wears much better in the winter, or colder weather with the spices, but they seem to go away. Veti Vert is reputedly an honest version as well, but as with all of them, lacks a bit of performance for the asking price.
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    I also picked up La Fumee Arabie and Ottoman at TJ Maxx a couple of weeks ago, for the discounted price this is a bargain IMO. Arabie opens more woody on me, like smokey burnt woodchips, birch and cedar, while Ottoman has a burst of herbs & spices, almost medicinal, but the drydown is similar. I agree that projection and sillage are very mild and after 4-5 hours it's very close to skin, but both have good staying power - I can smell the fragrance on skin and clothes after 10 hours. I wore Arabie to work today, it's still hot and humid in Houston, so I went light with application and was a bit conscious for the hour at work wondering if it will get cloying or annoy someone, but because it was muted and restrained I actually felt that it was totally appropriate for office wear. It is not a projection beast, but a comfort scent. Now I want to try La Fumee Intense. Love the packaging, bottles and sprayer!

    I also tried La Feuille and it couldn't be further removed from La Fumee - a fresh green, herbal, grassy scent that evokes memories of courtyards, weeding, children's playgrounds and sandboxes sprinkled with vegetation. Surprisingly, La Feuille has way more projection and sillage than La Fumee. It was a very interesting scent, but not sure if bottleworthy. I definitely want to try more.

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    I like this brand but primary complaint is that they have No distribution in the U.S. and it is very hard to buy or sample them if you are not in the U.K. They have a couple of company stores in London and one happens to be exactly next door to my favorite place to stay in London - Covent Garden Hotel - so I have purchased a few now and then as I walk by their shop. Good quality products that keep improving, but not worth making a big effort to seek them out, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmolive View Post
    Yep and that alone must equate to the zillion percent difference in markups!

    I've tried Vetiver Insolent which a warm, spicy vetiver thats easy to wear and performs well along with the dry Feuilles de Tabac which, for once, isn't a tobacco drenched in sweetness as it has a heavy dollop of pine instead. Both were well crafted but missing that "special something" that makes you hammer a sample and then want a bottle.

    Their 14ml pocket perfume range is a great idea though so I may have to try others at some point, reading the thread with interest for others impressions of the range.
    I've got Vetiver Insolent too and enjoy it. Wore Etui Noir yesterday and think it's great, leather and incense and iris going on there. Also have Fleurs de Sel and La Fumee Arabie which are both decent. All picked up in TK Maxx for decent prices.
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    I only own a few from this house(Lyn has nothing to do with it, left a few years back to start her own bespoke house), but see quite a few turn up in TKMaxx in the UK. The candles are lovely to have bought a number of those again from TKMaxx.
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    One more fan of Vetiver Insolent here. Fantastic fragrance, and incredibly versatile as it works in both hot amd cold weather. Why this doesn't get more love on these boards I don't know.

    As for the rest of the brand, it's sadly not carried anywhere near me anymore (used to be in Selfridges), so it's hard for me to sample unless I travel as my local airport stocks it. I suppose I'm way too late to the party

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    I believe Lyn Harris worked with Robertet materials - I do not know, whether reformulations occurred after she sold the business. I bought quite a number a few years ago dirt cheap on ebay and find them English in the sense of being "quite nice" but not really daring or outstanding.
    Citron Citron - the french do it better. Neither the bracing zest of Eau de Menton (or Trumper's Limes, for that matter) nor the aromatic edge of Eau du Sud - it's very "meh" to me.
    Tangerine Verte - Like this one as a simple, fresh non-lemony cologne
    Terre d'Iris - the citrus-herbal-powder-rose thing makes this a household cleaner scent to my nose. Not really iris-dominant either and verging towards masculine. Interesting, but a personal scrubber
    La Fumée - a nice slightly piney incense-amber
    Feuilles de Tabac - liked a sample years ago, but couldn't wear it when I got a bottle, significantly nose-irritating. It's fleeting and too synthetic on the drydown to my taste. I like Odori's pipe tobacco approach far better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarce View Post
    All their Vetivers are good, mostly because they don't muck around much. Vetiver Bourbon is about as straight a vetiver as you're likely to find. Insolent wears much better in the winter, or colder weather with the spices, but they seem to go away. Veti Vert is reputedly an honest version as well, but as with all of them, lacks a bit of performance for the asking price.
    Vetiver Bourbon was discontinued a looong time ago.

    I purchased Veti Vert recently. It's very nice but a tad one-dimensional.

    Performance has improved with the newer releases. The la Fumée flankers all have excellent longevity, as does Vetiver Insolent and Étui Noir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_good_life View Post
    I believe Lyn Harris worked with Robertet materials - I do not know, whether reformulations occurred after she sold the business. I bought quite a number a few years ago dirt cheap on ebay and find them English in the sense of being "quite nice" but not really daring or outstanding.
    This was always my impression of the house too, pleasant, easily dismissed, but I did a complete u-turn over the last few years and now have more from this house than any other. The releases after Lyn left were all solid (well, up until 2016.) Lately, things seem to have gone awry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharptoothC View Post
    I just picked up Arabie a few days ago. I like it a lot more than I thought I would as I am usually not big on rose notes. I do wish it had a bit more projection and longevity on me, but the scent itself has really grown on me.

    I'm thinking about picking up Le Fumee Ottoman or Intense. Recommendations?

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    Ottoman is my least favourite of the flankers. It has a very prominent rose, which normally I like, but with all that incense, smells a bit much.

    Intense is my favourite. It's really beautiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suspended View Post
    Performance has improved with the newer releases. The la Fumée flankers all have excellent longevity, as does Vetiver Insolent and Étui Noir.
    None of the ones I've tried have been "loud", and I'm usually debating whether to up the sprays or not. But they're all persistent. Something I sprayed on 24hrs ago I can still smell on my skin.
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    I grabbed a bottle of La Fumee Arabie at a Marshalls last night because for $50 it seemed like a no-brainer given the notes and the generally positive reviews. The only other Miller Harris fragrance I saw was L'Air de Rien. It looks like it's marketed for women but the notes seem like something I could enjoy. Does anyone have any thoughts on this one? Contemplating going back to buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byrdjoel View Post
    I grabbed a bottle of La Fumee Arabie at a Marshalls last night because for $50 it seemed like a no-brainer given the notes and the generally positive reviews. The only other Miller Harris fragrance I saw was L'Air de Rien. It looks like it's marketed for women but the notes seem like something I could enjoy. Does anyone have any thoughts on this one? Contemplating going back to buy it.
    L'Air de Rien is genderless IMO, but if pushed l'd say it's more masculine than feminine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teardrop View Post
    L'Air de Rien is genderless IMO, but if pushed l'd say it's more masculine than feminine.
    Would you say it was a safe blind buy though? It's famous for being quite skanky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suspended View Post
    Would you say it was a safe blind buy though? It's famous for being quite skanky.
    I've tried L'Air de Rien recently and it seems that whatever skank there was has been neutered recently.

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    I have been in from the start because they were sort of 'affordable niche'

    Lyn produced some fine fragrances -- I particularly like Terre de Bois

    I'm not sure where they are at now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suspended View Post
    Would you say it was a safe blind buy though? It's famous for being quite skanky.
    l haven't tried the current version, but l'd say you'd have to love skank for the older version l tried to be a safe blind buy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nastka View Post
    I've tried L'Air de Rien recently and it seems that whatever skank there was has been neutered recently.
    I had read on Basenotes that they had to reform the musks after the IFRA bans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suspended View Post
    I had read on Basenotes that they had to reform the musks after the IFRA bans.
    jeez - these bans are awful -- I loved that fragrance

    I think LT equated it to a 'dirty underwear' type aroma




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