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    Default Opium and the Asian influence on Saint Laurent

    A nice article on how Saint Laurent was influenced by Asian culture and the birth of Opium

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    Thanks for this
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    I was naive about the context in which Opium was created and now it left a bad taste in the mouth. Thanks for the link and the article about irises, epapsiou.
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    Thanks for the link. I did see the China through the looking glass exhibit at the Metropolitan museum in NYC, an exhibit about orientalism in western fashion. Beautiful clothes, and they did talk about the creation of Opium.

    But why bad taste about how it was created? As the article pointed out, we now understand the difference between true Asian culture and orientalism. The orientalism in Opium or in the China collection was not authentic, but not disrespectful either.

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    Thank you for sharing, incidentally enjoyed very much from this house and its fragrance line not just the regular Opium but even more so its (mostly, but still occasionally available) limited edition flankers Eau d'Orient and Poesie de Chine
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    Default Re: Opium and the Asian influence on Saint Laurent

    Quote Originally Posted by cacio View Post
    Thanks for the link. I did see the China through the looking glass exhibit at the Metropolitan museum in NYC, an exhibit about orientalism in western fashion. Beautiful clothes, and they did talk about the creation of Opium.

    But why bad taste about how it was created? As the article pointed out, we now understand the difference between true Asian culture and orientalism. The orientalism in Opium or in the China collection was not authentic, but not disrespectful either.

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    The opium wars and the opioid crisis had lasting impact in China as well as other neighboring countries.
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    I see. I had not thought about the opium wars. I don't think YSL (or YSL marketing) was thinking about this, they were looking for a suggestive name, and what is better than an intoxicating drug? but the association is there for those who know.

    Btw, the article didn't mention another non-perfume related controversy about YSL and Asia. it turns out YSL had bought the head once belonging to a fountain in Beijing that had been stolen by Europeans a century ago. When his estate came to the block, the Chinese understandably were furious. Not sure how that evolved.

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    I guess every house had its share of controvery - Chanel, Guerlain,Dior....
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    Default Re: Opium and the Asian influence on Saint Laurent

    Appreciate the link.
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    Opium always was going to be a bit of an edgy name.

    Unless the fragrance is super relaxing or smells like opium.

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    Thanks for the link

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    Nice article

    I believe both Opium and Chanel no.5 are the respective House's biggest earners by a long way in all fields and the sales are monitored intensely. Both have been 're-launched' in the past when sales have dipped with Coco and Yves channelling money from the clothes and accessories into huge advertising campaigns.

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