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    Default Overdose of White Musks flattening/bleaching my fragrance?

    I am working on a woody-rose perfume...
    And overdosed the Perfumers Apprentice White Musk Accord at 30% of the formula.

    After I put in the White Musk accord,
    I noticed that my perfume FLATTENED, The P.A. White Musk Accord had a nearly bleaching effect on my materials.
    Particularly the vanillin, it nearly killed the vanillin...

    Is the normal for the first couple of days?
    Perhaps in a weeks time, the formula will "bloom," once again?
    Or should I really CUT BACK on the white musk accord? Keep it at, say, 10% or less?

    Here is the formula for the white musk accord from P.A.

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    Default Re: Overdose of White Musks flattening/bleaching my fragrance?

    Oh, it's there... its just not giving you any scent molecules due to a strong fixative.

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    Default Re: Overdose of White Musks flattening/bleaching my fragrance?

    Some perfumes have up to 30% if musk accord. It all depends on the power of your top notes. Also, it depends on if it's diluted or not. I have a super awesome fragrance that's only so so in the bottle but mix it with the alchol and it blooms again.

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    Default Re: Overdose of White Musks flattening/bleaching my fragrance?

    It's a basics issue. Make trials with 5, 10 and 20% of your concoction being the white musk accord and see how it changes. Adjust with your nose.

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    Default Re: Overdose of White Musks flattening/bleaching my fragrance?

    Thanks guys,
    I`ve tried at 8% (doubled the alcohol)

    1). the top notes are not impactive...
    2). the rose and oud are not impactive enough either

    I think it's the Galaxolide...
    Just too CLEAN, washing out my woody, floral aspects.

    Because my goal is a floral and woody type perfume...I may dump the galaxolide heavy, white musk accord

    I may just use cerdamber, timbersilk and cashmeran.
    But I am worried that my perfume will end up being TOO DRY.

    We shall see.
    To be continued!
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    Default Re: Overdose of White Musks flattening/bleaching my fragrance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thea in Fl View Post
    Oh, it's there... its just not giving you any scent molecules due to a strong fixative.
    Yes, I completely agree. Too many heavy molecules.
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    Default Re: Overdose of White Musks flattening/bleaching my fragrance?

    Quote Originally Posted by I.D.Adam View Post
    It's a basics issue. Make trials with 5, 10 and 20% of your concoction being the white musk accord and see how it changes. Adjust with your nose.
    Will do.
    Also, I believe galaxolide might be the culprit?
    Just not the ideal musk for woody floral orientals?
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    Default Re: Overdose of White Musks flattening/bleaching my fragrance?

    I have the same problem with my creations. I also have the white musk from perfumers apprentice and like you, I find it flattens my fragrances. Galaxolide also dulls my creations too.

    I don't really bother using the white musk accord anymore, I much prefer the classic iso e, galaxolide and hadione formula with a touch of exhaltolide. Far superior and longer lasting.

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    Default Re: Overdose of White Musks flattening/bleaching my fragrance?

    It is this thread right here that led me to delete three accords from my shopping cart. Just make it yourself. This accord has fully half of a known 'scent-masker' while yes it is a popular ingredient I think it odd to dose the accord with something that covers other chemical scents.
    Like rsg said, if plenty of people using musk at 30% and then they use this one, that's 15% masking chemical.
    Good for mailing opiates and drugs though maybe, in case you want to send me some of that blue lotus.

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    Default Re: Overdose of White Musks flattening/bleaching my fragrance?

    Musk and also Ambroxan to me, lend a dampening effect on some base notes for sure. Try adding traces until you reach a desired effect.


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    Default Re: Overdose of White Musks flattening/bleaching my fragrance?

    All the musks have different characteristics so try using them one by one instead. I don't believe I could use a blend like that in anything really.




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