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    Default Pine notes are due for a comeback

    The really well-done pine note in La Curie Incendo has me wondering whether that note is due for a comeback in niche, designer, or both. As anyone who's smelled a realistic pine note can attest to, it doesn't smell like Pine-sol or air freshener. It smells green, resinous, woody--refreshing and complex. Cypress seems to be the evergreen note most likely to pop up in the last couple of decades, but I'd love to see pine in more pyramids. What do you all think--will it make a comeback or will it continue to suffer from its association with functional fragrance?

    Also, please let me know of any contemporary perfumes with a good pine note.

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    Default Re: Pine notes are due for a comeback

    One of my absolute favorites with a super-strong, very rich, juicy, mouth-watering pine notes (balsam fir to be exact) is Clive Christian L for Men.

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    Areej Le Dore's new Baikal Gris fragrance has a "Russian Fir" note that plays a primary role but i don't particularly Baikal Gris overall. I did initially, but... meh
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScentMemory View Post
    The really well-done pine note in La Curie Incendo has me wondering...
    I need to try this Incendo ASAP. It keeps coming in ways that are really making it sound attractive to me.

    And yes, I adore pine both IRL and in fragrances. If you haven't tried Slumberhouse Norne, do. It's a pine that's somehow smoky and damp at the same time, like a burnt pine forest that was maybe rained on while some embers were still cooling. Reference evergreen/pine, IMO.

    On the total opposite end of the spectrum, I also like Dasein Winter, a soft, refreshing, delicate pine. It's a note that has a reputation for manly brashness and lumberjackiness. But Winter is more of a northern forest sprite.

    There are actually a pretty good number of decent pine scents, at least in niche-world. But yeah, I'll agree it's due for a designer/popular renaissance.
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    Default Re: Pine notes are due for a comeback

    Quote Originally Posted by remik View Post
    One of my absolute favorites with a super-strong, very rich, juicy, mouth-watering pine notes (balsam fir to be exact) is Clive Christian L for Men.
    Nice! This sounds great and hadn't been on my radar at all. Adding to my next sample order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScentMemory View Post
    Also, please let me know of any contemporary perfumes with a good pine note.
    I like how it's arranged in Incendo too, it's solid but not over-the-top conifer/campfire scent. Turin called it 'leather smoke' but I personally didn't find it that leathery...although I've worn it like twice and not really looked for any leather.

    Other piney/smoky scents I think are similar:

    Fume - Hendley (my personal favorite)
    Wald (EdP) - Euphorium Brooklyn
    A City on Fire - Imaginary Authors
    (a little heavy on the smoke for me)
    The Holy Mountain - Apoteker Tepe (...should it pop up somewhere; rare)
    +1 Norne - Slumberhouse

    One I haven't tried but sounds like it might fit the bill is:

    Arizona - Olympic Orchids

    And for a significantly and excellently piney/fir scent of a totally different approach than the above:

    Fille en Aiguilles - Serge Lutens

    Quote Originally Posted by remik View Post
    (balsam fir to be exact)
    ^^^ helpful that you mention this - I'm pretty sure fir balsam/balsam fir is what drives the coniferous parts of most of these type of scents. Norne is loaded with the stuff, and Hans uses it in Fume too.

    Quote Originally Posted by LiveJazz View Post
    I need to try this Incendo ASAP. It keeps coming in ways that are really making it sounds attractive to me.

    And yes, I adore pine both IRL and in fragrances. If you haven't tried Slumberhouse Norne, do. It's a pine that's somehow smoky and damp at the same time, like a burnt pine forest that was maybe rained on while some embers were still cooling. Reference evergreen/pine, IMO.

    On the total opposite end of the spectrum, I also like Dasein Winter
    I think you might like Incendo, and probably Fume too. Incendo is, out of the ones I listed, the most clearly polished/streamlined with modern ACs IMO, as opposed to the fuzzy texture of Norne and FeA - not a negative or a positive, just an observation. La Curie just seems to have that style about all of their stuff. I do find it way more 'campfire smoke' than Norne, though.

    Have you tried Winter and Winter Nights, LJ? I haven't sniffed any from this house, but when I hear about it, it's usually in reference to either of those two.

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    Can fully agree/second this opinion (though admittedly for quite subjective reasons), since pine notes are more than honorably and sufficiently represented in some of the personal favorite scents, from the mass market segment like Pino Silvestre, Proraso Green to the niche one like Blenheim Bouquet, plus also a few favorite choices tested but not owned so far, ranging anywhere from minimal to quite pronounced, like Gucci Nobile, Van Cleef & Arpels Tsar, Loewe para Hombre, Davidoff pour Homme and Davidoff Relax, both discontinued, to name only a few
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    Quote Originally Posted by wood&leather View Post
    Areej Le Dore's new Baikal Gris fragrance has a "Russian Fir" note that plays a primary role but i don't particularly Baikal Gris overall. I did initially, but... meh
    I've been tempted to try some of his fragrances in the past but haven't since they contain newly harvested (albeit sustainably) musk from musk deer. I'm not a vegetarian and don't judge anyone else for wearing it, it's just not for me. At any rate, Baikal Gris doesn't look like it has musk, so I might give it a shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveJazz View Post
    I need to try this Incendo ASAP. It keeps coming in ways that are really making it sounds attractive to me.

    And yes, I adore pine both IRL and in fragrances. If you haven't tried Slumberhouse Norne, do. It's a pine that's somehow smoky and damp at the same time, like a burnt pine forest that was maybe rained on while some embers were still cooling. Reference evergreen/pine, IMO.

    On the total opposite end of the spectrum, I also like Dasein Winter, a soft, refreshing, delicate pine. It's a note that has a reputation for manly brashness and lumberjackiness. But Winter is more of a northern forest sprite.

    There actually a pretty good number of decent pine scents, at least in niche-world. But yeah, I'll agree it's due for a designer/popular renaissance.
    I've got a sample of Norne on the way! I tried it years ago and though I liked it, I remember thinking that I couldn't pull it off. Since then, however, I've gotten much more comfortable with wearing daring/unusual fragrances, and I have a feeling I'll end up buying either a decant or a FB (once they're back in stock somewhere).

    I tried Winter when it first came out and didn't like it for some reason I can't remember. Maybe worth sampling again at some point.

    And yes, try Incendo! Only $5 (including shipping) for a generous spray sample from the house.

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    If someone was able to take to opening of TF's Vert d'Encens and get it to last I would pay the big bucks for it. Big coniferous incense combo. Gorgeous imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IsoESuperman View Post
    I like how it's arranged in Incendo too, it's solid but not over-the-top conifer/campfire scent. Turin called it 'leather smoke' but I personally didn't find it that leathery...although I've worn it like twice and not really looked for any leather.

    Other piney/smoky scents I think are similar:

    Fume - Hendley (my personal favorite)
    Wald (EdP) - Euphorium Brooklyn
    A City on Fire - Imaginary Authors
    (a little heavy on the smoke for me)
    The Holy Mountain - Apoteker Tepe (...should it pop up somewhere; rare)
    +1 Norne - Slumberhouse

    One I haven't tried but sounds like it might fit the bill is:

    Arizona - Olympic Orchids

    And for a significantly and excellently piney/fir scent of a totally different approach than the above:

    Fille en Aiguilles - Serge Lutens
    Same here re: Incendo--I've worn it several times and don't find any leathery notes.

    Fume sounds great! And I love that they sell a smaller size (9 ml) for only $28. I wish every house offered these smaller sizes. They'd be almost exclusively what I would buy.

    Wald and City on Fire are on my to-test list, although yeah, I've heard the same about City on Fire: super smoky, possibly to an unbalanced degree. I don't hold out too much hope for finding Holy Mountain since Turin's book came out.

    I've tried Arizona and Fille. The former smelled very good, but struck me as something I wouldn't want to wear. Would make a good incense or candle, though. I loved the pine and incense in Fille, but the famous Lutens candied-fruit notes ruined it for me. Ditto for Wazamba by Parfums d'Empire, which often gets compared to Fille.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken_Russell View Post
    Can fully agree/second this opinion (though admittedly for quite subjective reasons), since pine notes are more than honorably and sufficiently represented in some of the personal favorite scents, from the mass market segment like Pino Silvestre, Proraso Green to the niche one like Blenheim Bouquet, plus also a few favorite choices tested but not owned so far, ranging anywhere from minimal to quite pronounced, like Gucci Nobile, Van Cleef & Arpels Tsar, Loewe para Hombre, Davidoff pour Homme and Davidoff Relax, both discontinued, to name only a few
    What are your thoughts on the newest formulation of Loewe? Opinions seem to vary on whether it's still good in the post-oakmoss era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oud Dude View Post
    If someone was able to take to opening of TF's Vert d'Encens and get it to last I would pay the big bucks for it. Big coniferous incense combo. Gorgeous imo.
    The notes sound good, but I've come to the conclusion that the TF house aesthetic (loud, brash, usually attention-grabbing) just isn't for me. I can understand the appeal, and the scents are made with quality ingredients, but they're just dialed up a bit too high for my tastes.

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    Have you tried Winter and Winter Nights, LJ? I haven't sniffed any from this house, but when I hear about it, it's usually in reference to either of those two.
    Only Winter, and I own it. First sniffed on a visit to Twisted Lily and my wife and I were immediately taken, and we share it. It's a rare pine that smells distinctly and unmistakably of pine but also has a smooth feminine twist...again, quite delicate, or maybe crystalline is a good word. There's a clean, soapy backdrop, lavender and maybe some white musk that makes it smell soft, and perhaps a little common after awhile. But I still like it. It's calming, and a good work scent type of pine.

    I've discovered that a little salon/beauty boutique near where I work carries the whole Dasein line by some stroke of luck, so I'll have to check out Nights and the others. Nights does sound interesting. Guess I missed it at TL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IsoESuperman View Post
    ^^^ helpful that you mention this - I'm pretty sure fir balsam/balsam fir is what drives the coniferous parts of most of these type of scents. Norne is loaded with the stuff, and Hans uses it in Fume too.
    Indeed. I love Norne for that reason, too, but it's so thick and heavy, can't pull it off easily. Needs cold winter nights - which sadly we don't get where I live.

    There's one more I thought of that is absolutely wonderful: Forest Walk by Sonoma Scent Studio. So woody and aromatic - I still can't believe Laurie closed shop. :-| This one was one of her best in this genre, glad I was able to get a bottle while still available.

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    I particularly like Bottega Veneta Pour Homme EdT. Pine, juniper, fir balsam, leather - lovely.

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    Default Re: Pine notes are due for a comeback

    My favourite pine/fir scents are AG Nuit Étoilée edp, AG Encens Flamboyant, and CdG Zagorsk, along with the previously mentioned Fille en Aiguilles, Forest Walk and Wazamba.

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    I love fragrances with pine notes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by remik View Post
    Indeed. I love Norne for that reason, too, but it's so thick and heavy, can't pull it off easily. Needs cold winter nights - which sadly we don't get where I live.

    There's one more I thought of that is absolutely wonderful: Forest Walk by Sonoma Scent Studio. So woody and aromatic - I still can't believe Laurie closed shop. :-| This one was one of her best in this genre, glad I was able to get a bottle while still available.
    I loved this one and am so sad I only got to sample it. It was gorgeous!
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    Pine never left IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by remik View Post
    Indeed. I love Norne for that reason, too, but it's so thick and heavy, can't pull it off easily. Needs cold winter nights - which sadly we don't get where I live.

    There's one more I thought of that is absolutely wonderful: Forest Walk by Sonoma Scent Studio. So woody and aromatic - I still can't believe Laurie closed shop. :-| This one was one of her best in this genre, glad I was able to get a bottle while still available.
    Wow, I didn't realize she had closed up!

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    Default Re: Pine notes are due for a comeback

    Here's an under-the-radar choice (from an under-the-radar house)

    Pryn Parfum's Taiga

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    Bring on the conifers. Following this thread with interest.
    +1 Zagorsk.
    Would love to try Norne sometime; sounds my kind of thing.

    Eloge du Traitre, perhaps (I'm not keen on it so far).
    I also can't stand the dried fruit notes in Fille en Aiguilles.
    I wish I could smell the juniper, pine, fir balsam and leather in Bottega Veneta p H EdT, but I must be anosmic, for it smells of almost nothing to me when I've sampled it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScentMemory View Post
    Wow, I didn't realize she had closed up!
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    Oooooooh, I'd like to try me some of this. Will have to remember this one in my online shopping searches.

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    One might say we're all pining for its return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjg3839 View Post
    Pine never left IMO.


    +1

    I feel the same way. I have Norne, vintage Polo, and I want to love Fille en Aiguilles so I can purchase a bottle but so far that scent has not clicked with me. I really want to try Arizona! What makes Arizona lean more 'candle'?
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    Default Re: Pine notes are due for a comeback

    +1 for Bottega Veneta Pour Homme, though Pour Homme Extreme is far superior to the original EDT imo. Pine, fir, juniper, leather, nutmeg, pimento - it's such a classy fragrance and a great designer offering.
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    Incendo by La Curie sounded so good I just went in for a bottle: snowy pine forest with a burning fire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangkok Hound View Post
    Here's an under-the-radar choice (from an under-the-radar house)

    Pryn Parfum's Taiga

    This sounds fantastic! Definitely under-the-radar to me. I wish they had some North American stockists.

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    It's not a huge element, but the fir/pine is clearly present and blended wonderfully with the vetiver:

    Itasca (Lubin, 2010).

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