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    Default Date Night Tests - Round 2

    This is a followup to this thread in the quest to find the perfect date night scent. Background: I'm conservativish 47 year old. Round 2's critic is 40 year old red head slightly more sophisticated than Round 1's critic.

    The results. Her comments in "". (My comments in parenthesis):

    * Taur, Au Coeur Du Desert = 8.0. "Good everyday scent." (More projection than I remembered.)
    * Dior Homme Intense = 6.0 "Baby Powder". (Could I have gotten a counterfeit? This one got the most votes after Round 1 but I was sorely disappointed in the results.)
    * Creed Aventus = 9.0 "Very Cowboy". (High notes were immediately noticeable and pleasant, unlike most colognes I've tried which have to settle before being worth a damn.)
    * YSL L'Homme Libre = 6.2
    * Heeley Sel Marin = 7.6 "Spicy hippy smell. Not the dirty hippy kind, the good hippy kind. Not spicy like hot food, but an herbal spicy. Makes me want to hold your hand but not screw your brains out." (Translation = classy everyday scent. Wish I had this over Coeur Du Desert a little.)

    Still no homerun signature date night scent for me. Tomorrow will try Creed Royal Oud. I'm thinking that might be the ticket. Will report back.

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    I was wearing Initio Rehab the other night and my date commented twice that I smelled "so good." I have another first date this weekend (no need to judge me) and I'm thinking of trying Absolute Aphrodisiac, but perhaps that's a better second or third date choice.

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    I especially enjoyed reading the comment about Sel Marin.
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    Try more Tauers.
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    Thank you for sharing/posting, some good fragrances got well deserved feedbacks, reactions during this test round
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    bocraw - It's nice to see you following up on fragrances that have been suggested. I gravitate toward Dior and Chanel. I know you've tried Dior Homme and Dior Homme Intense. Dior Homme is a 10/10 for the woman I'm dating. She doesn't like Dior Homme Intense as much. For Chanel's, she loves Allure Homme Sport Eau Extreme and Platinum Egoiste.

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    I don’t know why you guys care about a random, non taste possessing woman’s opinion. She said Dior Homme smells like baby powder because of the iris. How do you get herbal spicy from sel Marin? She’s just saying stuff to sound like she can actually hold an opinion as one does not wish to look stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CutSmut View Post
    I don’t know why you guys care about a random, non taste possessing woman’s opinion. She said Dior Homme smells like baby powder because of the iris. How do you get herbal spicy from sel Marin? She’s just saying stuff to sound like she can actually hold an opinion as one does not wish to look stupid.
    I'm a self admitted novice when it comes to scents. When it comes to matters of style, we all deserve an opinion regardless of whether it's an informed opinion or not. I like classical music. I don't have the expertise to describe the period, key, composer, conductor or symphony. And yet I still know what I like and what I do not like when I hear it. Regarding scents, I have two criteria: 1. Do I like the smell and does it make me feel confident? 2. Does she like the smell and does it increase her attraction towards me?

    When we go out in public those around us are forced to smell our scents whether they want to or not. You seem to be imply that their opinions do not matter unless they have refined tastes and informed opinions. As for me, I am curious how others receive my scent, and therefore wish to share my little experiment with the rest of the group.

    Good luck smelling yourself, CutSmut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bocraw View Post
    I'm a self admitted novice when it comes to scents. When it comes to matters of style, we all deserve an opinion regardless of whether it's an informed opinion or not. I like classical music. I don't have the expertise to describe the period, key, composer, conductor or symphony. And yet I still know what I like and what I do not like when I hear it. Regarding scents, I have two criteria: 1. Do I like the smell and does it make me feel confident? 2. Does she like the smell and does it increase her attraction towards me?

    When we go out in public those around us are forced to smell our scents whether they want to or not. You seem to be imply that their opinions do not matter unless they have refined tastes and informed opinions. As for me, I am curious how others receive my scent, and therefore wish to share my little experiment with the rest of the group.

    Good luck smelling yourself, CutSmut.
    I would say that’s true, especially when it comes to the arts. I’m not the most cultured person in the world so I keep my mouth shut when it comes to criticism regarding art such as classical music where I am not well versed. However the arts I know partake and hold knowledge in, yes I do not care about the uninformed and unrefined opinions. Sure everyone is entitled to their opinion but it doesn’t make it worthy of being heard. One of the travesties of instant and global communication is now everyone believes what they have to say is worth a damn when it just isn’t true.

    I know that comes off as snobbish and hell I probably am a snob in lots of peoples eyes, but saying eww Dior Homme smells like baby powder is akin to saying ewww sushi is raw fish I’d never eat that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CutSmut View Post
    I know that comes off as snobbish and hell I probably am a snob in lots of peoples eyes, but saying eww Dior Homme smells like baby powder is akin to saying ewww sushi is raw fish I’d never eat that.
    I agree it is suspicious thus my question of whether it is a counterfeit or defective bottle. I tried Dior Homme and had a strong smell. Dior Homme Intense did not. Something seems amiss to me but don't know what do to about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CutSmut View Post
    I would say that’s true, especially when it comes to the arts. I’m not the most cultured person in the world so I keep my mouth shut when it comes to criticism regarding art such as classical music where I am not well versed. However the arts I know partake and hold knowledge in, yes I do not care about the uninformed and unrefined opinions. Sure everyone is entitled to their opinion but it doesn’t make it worthy of being heard. One of the travesties of instant and global communication is now everyone believes what they have to say is worth a damn when it just isn’t true.

    I know that comes off as snobbish and hell I probably am a snob in lots of peoples eyes, but saying eww Dior Homme smells like baby powder is akin to saying ewww sushi is raw fish I’d never eat that.
    I think an opinion should be heard if asked for...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CutSmut View Post
    Sure everyone is entitled to their opinion but it doesn’t make it worthy of being heard. One of the travesties of instant and global communication is now everyone believes what they have to say is worth a damn when it just isn’t true.
    BINGO.

    I won't argue with everyone being entitled to his or her own opinion. Duh. But just because someone has an opinion doesn't mean I care what their opinion is let alone want to hear it. If I want to hear it, I'll ask for it. Social media--Twitter, in particular--has gotten so many people thinking that every damn thought in their head is a jewel that needs to be shown off. Um, no. I don't think so.

    To bring this back to perfume: unless the perfume I'm wearing is literally repulsing someone, I don't care what other people think--ESPECIALLY when other people don't have much of a developed taste for perfume. I'm wearing it for me. Other people can deal.

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    I wouldn't immediately assume that there's anything amiss in your Dior. It's probably just that she doesn't like this type of perfumes, whereas the previous person of interest did. As others said, iris is considered powdery by some, and vanilla (soft and yummy) is often associated to baby products. Some women find vanilla sexy, others don't.

    This woman seems to like leathers and the like, so go with that. Perhaps you can try some dry incense as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultravisitor View Post
    To bring this back to perfume: unless the perfume I'm wearing is literally repulsing someone, I don't care what other people think--ESPECIALLY when other people don't have much of a developed taste for perfume. I'm wearing it for me. Other people can deal.
    You know this just make you an ass, right? Not literally of course.

    I guess this is why I love (and hate) coming here.

    As for the results, I quite like the description of Sel Marin and can see why she'd say that. I find Aventus's one curious (and interesting).
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyG View Post
    You know this just make you an ass, right? Not literally of course.

    I guess this is why I love (and hate) coming here.

    As for the results, I quite like the description of Sel Marin and can see why she'd say that. I find Aventus's one curious (and interesting).
    How does that make him an ass? Would you call someone an ass when they start talking about how well done is the only way to eat steak and you dislike the foolishness? Or that Macy’s has the best suits money can buy? Or that Ford is as good as it gets when it comes to cars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyG View Post
    You know this just make you an ass, right? Not literally of course.
    Why?

    If the fragrance I'm wearing isn't repulsing anyone else, then why should I care what other people think if I'm only wearing it for my own enjoyment?

    Seriously. I don't understand what's bad about that.

    I mean, it's not like I'm even doing something as rude as calling someone an "ass".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultravisitor View Post
    BINGO.

    I won't argue with everyone being entitled to his or her own opinion. Duh. But just because someone has an opinion doesn't mean I care what their opinion is let alone want to hear it. If I want to hear it, I'll ask for it. Social media--Twitter, in particular--has gotten so many people thinking that every damn thought in their head is a jewel that needs to be shown off. Um, no. I don't think so.

    To bring this back to perfume: unless the perfume I'm wearing is literally repulsing someone, I don't care what other people think--ESPECIALLY when other people don't have much of a developed taste for perfume. I'm wearing it for me. Other people can deal.
    I like the way you think!

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    When I'm on a date with someone, I don't consider her random. I'm curious about her opinions.

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    If I were on a first date with someone, they would have to be AMAAAZING for me to base my future perfume-wearing on a comment from them.

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    Try mfk grand soir or ysl la nuit, report back on your findings, inquiring minds want to know, mitch out.
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    Default Re: Date Night Tests - Round 2

    Caring about a date's reactions can run the gamut of being too people pleasing to being sensitive to, and interested in the other person.
    In this case I think it leans towards the latter.
    I like that bocraw is curious and attuned to the potential pleasures that sharing scents can give.
    And if he is anything like some of us, there are so many in our wardrobe that please ourselves to choose from, why not wear something that another person can also enjoy?

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    Update: Called audible and tried Oud Extract de Parfum by Maison Francis Kurkdjian . I think this sample was complimentary from Lucky Scent with order. Anyway, date rated 9.1, highest yet. She said it, "smells like you."

    Round 3 will come in December. Still have many other samples to try, including Royal Oud . Many thanks for the constructive comments.

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    Think you will enjoy Royal Oud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bocraw View Post
    Update: Called audible and tried Oud Extract de Parfum by Maison Francis Kurkdjian . I think this sample was complimentary from Lucky Scent with order. Anyway, date rated 9.1, highest yet. She said it, "smells like you."
    A nice complement!
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    Interesting. DHI sounds right. The iris can come across as powdery which would explain the baby powder comment.

    Sel Marin was interesting. I get almost no spices in it, but it does apparently have clove in it. Different people probably have different sensitivity to the clove. I mainly get a lemon opening followed by marine notes, soft woods/ vetiver and a lot of clean musk.
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    I can agree that not all opinions hold the same weight. But, I think if a person's not really careful this perspective can cut them off from some interesting perspectives that they presume are uninformed and unrefined because of their source.



    Quote Originally Posted by CutSmut View Post
    I would say that’s true, especially when it comes to the arts. I’m not the most cultured person in the world so I keep my mouth shut when it comes to criticism regarding art such as classical music where I am not well versed. However the arts I know partake and hold knowledge in, yes I do not care about the uninformed and unrefined opinions. Sure everyone is entitled to their opinion but it doesn’t make it worthy of being heard. One of the travesties of instant and global communication is now everyone believes what they have to say is worth a damn when it just isn’t true.

    I know that comes off as snobbish and hell I probably am a snob in lots of peoples eyes, but saying eww Dior Homme smells like baby powder is akin to saying ewww sushi is raw fish I’d never eat that.
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    Update:
    * Creed Royal Oud = 8.75 "Smells like leather and manly things. It smells like we're going to dinner at a nice supper club." (I liked it too. Smelled clean to me.)

    Leader remains Oud Extract de Parfum by Maison Francis Kurkdjian with 9.1

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    Update:
    * 1725 Casanova by Histories de Parfums = 8.27 "I like it. Smells like you. Subtle. Like we should cuddle on the couch. Mixes well with other odors. Warm." (I like it too. Not sure this is date night signature scent. But I am 100% buying a bottle for everyday.)

    *New York Intense by Nicolai. 6.2 "Smells like my dad." ( Umm, No.)

    Round 3 will test Oud Wood, Dia Man, and Timbuktu against top performers then this project will be done. Next project will be finding signature scent for her, which will be more fun than finding one for me.

    Thanks to all for help.

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    She gives really good feedback.
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