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    Default Caron femme identification (2 oz., atomizer, "New York")

    Peeps,

    I found this still serviceable bottle of Caron juice amongst some family belongings today. Fill is appx. 40-45% remaining.

    Gold juice, seemed chypre-esque (but not green) with a kiss of vanilla (I think). The neck band says, left to right,

    NET WT. 2 oz CARON NEW YORK

    There is no bottom sticker. The bottle base appears to have a single 'J' cast in the glass, nothing else. The sprayer button is black, vertically ridged, with a gold metal exit nozzle.

    Any help with the juice name and any extra specifics would be great. I have the bottle if I need to look for other clues.

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    Default Re: Caron chypre identification (2 oz., atomizer, "New York")

    Lucky you!

    Alpona was a citrus chypre, but it was never a widespread one, so I doubt that's it. En Avion is a leather chypre, but with anise and other florals; but you should be able to smell the leather.

    Does it have clove? Several other Carons feature clove (like Nuit de Noel)

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    Default Re: Caron chypre identification (2 oz., atomizer, "New York")

    @cacio

    I have to be careful before I revisit spraying again as the atomizer got stuck on the first attempt. It's been a couple of hours but checking my wrist, I do think it has some clove.

    And in the opening after the alcohol was gone, a touch of vanilla, but I could be fooling myself.

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    Default Re: Caron chypre identification (2 oz., atomizer, "New York")

    Bellodgia has a lot of clove/carnation and vanilla. I'd describe it as creamy carnation. One of the most common Caron probably. But it is not a chypre. Nuit de Noel also has clove and vanilla, but it's darker, sweeter (Luca Turin calls it maron glace).

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    Default Re: Caron femme identification (2 oz., atomizer, "New York")

    Hmm, yeah. It's sounding like Bellodgia. It seems to be holding on with some moss, but I don't get the pungency of labandum or galbanum. (In fact, I've just edited the opening post to not declare it clearly a chypre now that I've had more time with it.)

    A warm, non floral oriental with clove and carnation sounds like a better description at this point.

    Dang, why can't they put the name on the bottle.

    If I only had the box ...

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    Default Re: Caron femme identification (2 oz., atomizer, "New York")

    A warm, non floral oriental with clove and carnation corresponds well to Bellodgia.

    cacio

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    I agree,its a nightmare trying to identify unmarked Caron frags! I was told this was TB,a peppery carnation,leathery...so bought TB,but it was NOT that,also not En Avion.to me En Avion smells vaguely medicinal(current)I get no leather whatsoever!
    Its going to cost me a fortune to figure out what it is!
    I am going to take mine to Roja's parfumerie at Harrods to see if they can ID it.
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    Default Re: Caron femme identification (2 oz., atomizer, "New York")

    Annette

    Carons have been reformulated many times. The current en avion has no leather, but older ones did. Other possibilities are Poivre or Pois de senteur.

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    Default Re: Caron femme identification (2 oz., atomizer, "New York")

    Cacio..will message you...

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    Default Re: Caron femme identification (2 oz., atomizer, "New York")

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    Default Re: Caron femme identification (2 oz., atomizer, "New York")

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    Well, it is either Fleurs de Rocaille, Bellodgia or Nuit de Noel:

    How do you make a great cologne better?

    You concentrate.

    That's just what we did. We concentrated our spray cologne and gave it more fragrance to the ounce. Then, we turned our attention to the bottle. And streamlined it from the bottom to the pssst. And finally, we gave it a very special price. $4 for two ounces of Fleurs de Rocaille. Or Bellodgia. Or Nuit de Noel.


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    Default Re: Caron femme identification (2 oz., atomizer, "New York")

    Based on your description, my vote is for vintage Bellodgia. Definitely not Fleurs de Rocaille, and vintage Nuit de Noel is not particularly spicy, clove-y.
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    Default Re: Caron femme identification (2 oz., atomizer, "New York")

    This is probably the case--a great scent if it is still in good shape!

    Quote Originally Posted by grayspoole View Post
    Based on your description, my vote is for vintage Bellodgia. Definitely not Fleurs de Rocaille, and vintage Nuit de Noel is not particularly spicy, clove-y.
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