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    Question Perfumes you own that go AGAINST your usual sensibilities or scruples.

    We all have a particular set of standards about what perfume we wear, whether it's a price issue (not greater than X or below X price), an issue with vintages (i.e. no versions of X made after 19XX or 20XX because they have Y ingredient removed/reduced), or a specific house/perfumer/brand we won't wear for whatever reason. What I want to know, is what perfumes you enjoy that go against your own personal rules. Cheapies that you're embarrassed to admit you like, prestige/niche scents you enjoy despite being ashamed of paying their asking price, new fragrances you enjoy that might call your "vintage dude" cred into question, fragrances that contain a note you profess to hate but somehow enjoy in that instance, or literally anything you like that could be perceived by the fragrance community as a skeleton in your closet for going against what people know about you or what you usually claim as being your preferences.

    I've deliberately left out perfumes that go against your gender identity as they've been covered by other threads.

    So tell me, what is one (or some) of the perfumes that defy your own personal logic on why you like them, or make you feel a bit hypocritical for enjoying them. What scents do you own that go against your own personal grain? It's time to air our dirty laundry!!

    I'll post my choices after this gets some traction. I hate both starting a thread and replying to my own topic in the same post. Just a quirk of mine.
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    Default Re: Perfumes you own that go AGAINST your usual sensibilities or scruples.

    Generally I'm 'anti aquatic'... but someone insisted I try Aquawoman, (Rochas)....the driest aquatic known to mankind ! Rewiewers describe it as a masterpiece and the ultimate aquatic fragrance.

    I did and I love it.
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    Default Re: Perfumes you own that go AGAINST your usual sensibilities or scruples.

    Interesting topic. I typically won't pay luxury retail prices, but the exceptions I've made were:

    Spiritueuse Double Vanille
    Dior Vetiver
    Musc Ravageur
    Ambre Narguile
    Invasion Barbare
    All Chanel frags

    And I'll sometimes get in on a split. Those are:

    Vetiver Tonka
    Viking
    Puredistance M
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    Default Re: Perfumes you own that go AGAINST your usual sensibilities or scruples.

    I'm not one for sporty fragrances but I made an exception to Dior Homme Sport 2008 formulation because it was a few bars higher than most sport scents. Today however, I'm looking to divest off the bottle as I don't enjoy it much anymore.
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    Default Re: Perfumes you own that go AGAINST your usual sensibilities or scruples.

    None. When it comes to enjoying fragrances I have no scruples.

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    Default Re: Perfumes you own that go AGAINST your usual sensibilities or scruples.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot Crusader View Post
    What scents do you own that go against your own personal grain?
    I would not normally ever consider buying or wearing celebrity scents, but there are three celebrities whose scents I happily indulge in: Alain Delon, Omar Sharif and Olivier de Kersauson
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    Default Re: Perfumes you own that go AGAINST your usual sensibilities or scruples.

    I don't like gourmands and I don't want to spend high prices, yet I bought Musc Ravageur and Grand Soir. Just liked them too much to not get them.
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    When I bought Beige by Chanel, I thought I disliked all white florals (apparently except Beige). Now I’m looking for a Gardenia scent. Also, I’ve moved away from fruity florals for the most part, but I bought Silk Blossom by Jo Malone.
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    I used to solely focus on niche perfumes and didn't have much interest in vintage perfumes, considering them too old-fashioned or too initimidating for me to wear them. I also had a certain assumption that some vintage classic are on a pedestal and people praise them only because they don't want to go against the established narrative. But I finally got to explore them more categorically in recent years, and I've found much appreciation, respect and love to a few vintage and classics despite my desire to "not conform".

    I usually resent the type of marketing that emphasizes "class" and "prestige" which Chanel represents in general public and Roja Dove in fragrance community, but I did buy their Coromandel and Amber extrait when I found them at an attractive price.
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    Default Re: Perfumes you own that go AGAINST your usual sensibilities or scruples.

    I'd have to give this more thought. Off the top of my head, celebrity scents I enjoy are Madonna's Truth Or Dare and Jessica Simpson's Fancy Nights.

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    Default Re: Perfumes you own that go AGAINST your usual sensibilities or scruples.

    Oh yeah, celebrity scents, yeah, that's kind of one for me as well. My exception is Michael Jordan Legend.
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    Hmm. Here we go:

    - I both dislike aldehydes as an ingredient, and Chanel as a brand. Yet Bois des Iles Parfum is easily in my top-3. Go figure.
    - I don't actively 'seek out' celebrity scents because most of them seem to me like lazy cash grabbing exercises, but I think Sarah Jessica Parker's Stash is nice, and I own a miniature of... wait for it... Hilary Duff's With Love. And... I like it.
    - I dislike aquatics because in my opinion, most of them are tricked out and badly done. Yet I like Erolfa, Bel Respiro and Hugo Boss Pure, Aqua and Element.
    - Speaking of which... I actually don't mind most Hugo Boss fragrances, even though they're 'aim at the lowest common denominator', mass market fragrances. They're great 'dumb reaches'. And their 'The Collection' Line in the vein of Armani Prive and Zegna is actually quite decent too.
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    Default Re: Perfumes you own that go AGAINST your usual sensibilities or scruples.

    Dont really like animalistic fragrances. Tobacco Oud is a decent starter kit that I enjoy.
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    Few to none, perhaps only with the exception of the ones that managed to cause a certain underwhelming and were purchased only due to a combination between a whim and a certain peer pressure, should have stayed more focused on classics and powerhouses from the start and built up a wardrobe based more on personal favorites, rather than by trends and the possibility of garnering compliments

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    I had to check my wardrobe, but I seem to have few that would fit the bill (no guilty pleasures, or rather, I tend not to feel guilty about my pleasures!).

    Le Jardin de Monsieur Li is a bit of an odd duck for me; a sheer and minimalistic fruity floral with an almost metallic jasmine and a decidedly modern 'wet stones' note. I love it though!

    And I've recently acquired some Mona di Orio Vanille, even though I tend not to love gourmands. This one is very complex and smokey though.

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    Default Re: Perfumes you own that go AGAINST your usual sensibilities or scruples.

    To be honest, I'm not sure I have much in the way of sensibilities at this point. Maybe I just haven't been in this long enough to really have a "style". My wardrobe is all over the place, and I keep sniffing things that I think wouldn't be my jam at all, and I keep getting surprised.

    That being said, I definitely avoid the heavily gourmand stuff marketed to the kids, but I liked the Brazilian Crush Body Spray. I can't wear something like that to my weird little office, so I donated it to the Church with a bunch of samples and whatnot I was hoarding, and one of the young girls really liked it and took it home.

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    Default Re: Perfumes you own that go AGAINST your usual sensibilities or scruples.

    Now that some folks have answered and the thread isn't a stillborn effort, here are MY choices:

    Dior Sauvage (2015): I didn't want to like this because it literally is the epitome of algorithmic perfumery, keyed to check every box of the "Broletariat" obsessed with "get swole, get bitches, get rich or die trying, alpha up" and that is so not my vibe at all. However, despite the ubiquity, and the cultural associations, it's just damned pleasant and a solid performer, plus my boyfriend loves it on me so I'm doomed to like it since it makes me think of him instead of all the cubical clones bragging at the watercooler about their dead lifts and bolt-on turbo kits


    Y Eau de Parfum by YSL (2018): This stuff is a vast improvement to the "Ambroxan Bomb" that is the abhorrent Y Eau de Toilette for Men (2017). It doesn't have the traction of Sauvage (thank God), and manages to replace the irritating scratch of the EdT with a warm, sweetish glow which admittedly assisted by ethyl malitol, but executed convincingly enough to be almost a "marine oriental ambergris" and it just works. My boyfriend likes this on himself, so there's another one with positive memory association for the books that I'll wear more often than for its merits.

    Creed Aventus (2010): The only scent I wanted to hate anywhere near as much as I wanted to hate Sauvage. Even before I smelled this stuff, my run-ins with the BEYOND TOXIC fanbase this stuff has online had me equate this stuff as the perfume version of the Supreme brand, worshipped by an online underbelly of sad solipsistic parvenu clout chasers. But after getting a taste, I admit it's quite beautiful even if nowhere near the pinnacle of perfume art like the troglodytes constantly pound in their drooling defenses against anyone who "just plain enjoys the stuff" like me.

    Chanel Cristalle (1974): I really can't stand fruity florals, as they have become the equivalent of aquatics but marketed to women, and their transparent nature is almost annoying in its "bath mist" health and beauty aisle genericness. Some fruity florals go for the throat too with rich apricots and marigolds, but Cristalle is remarkably crisp, dry, and chypre-like. This is a notoriously cold and unfeeling scent too, which is also atypical of the usually-bouncy genre, so perhaps it is just that exceptional in the fruity floral genre (and an early take to boot), which finds favor.

    Estée Lauder Beautiful (1985): Tuberose to 80's femmes is what ambroxan has become to 2010's masculines: overloaded, overused, and annoyingly heavy. Clouds of Giorgio and Gloria Vanderbilt make me shudder as I remember them gassing up restaurants as a tot (my mom equally to blame). However, Beautiful is exactly as it sounds, perfectly balancing that tuberose with other golden florals and diffusing it in a way that gives it a halo rather than an atomic cloud, allowing me to understand the appeal without tasting it in the process. Very well done
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    Z--Oh gosh I really wanted to hate Aventus too. The tacky manufactured prestige and tradition that surrounds the brand, the inflated prices, and even the bottles turn me off. The fragrance itself is extremely handsome and pleasing.

    I laughed when I smelled my decant wondering what the hype was about. I ended up finishing my sample and ordered a larger decant. It definitely grew on me!

    I usually like softer things like flowers and fruit that is not smoked, so this is a nice change of pace in my small collection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post
    None. When it comes to enjoying fragrances I have no scruples.
    +1.

    I guess there was a phase of exploration which included gourmands and other such sweet scents (also some women's that blatantly were too feminine and hyped aquatics) that felt wrong from the beginning and which always was going to end in culling.

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    While I wait for the eventual tracking details for my orders from far more creative companies, I am using Sauvage EdT as a pleasant room freshener (conservatively). Very pleasant opening with an engineered juicy bergamot + linalyl acetate top, dry down is ho hum. I don't know why I like it, maybe it just makes me appreciate my other perfumes more, a good reference point for comparing modern vacuum distilled bergamot accords with companies that still use the real pure McCoy (outside of EU influence of course).
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    Default Re: Perfumes you own that go AGAINST your usual sensibilities or scruples.

    Quote Originally Posted by morning light View Post
    Z--Oh gosh I really wanted to hate Aventus too. The tacky manufactured prestige and tradition that surrounds the brand, the inflated prices, and even the bottles turn me off. The fragrance itself is extremely handsome and pleasing.

    I laughed when I smelled my decant wondering what the hype was about. I ended up finishing my sample and ordered a larger decant. It definitely grew on me!

    I usually like softer things like flowers and fruit that is not smoked, so this is a nice change of pace in my small collection.
    Toxic fanbases haven't kept me away from perfume, but they have chased me out of other hobbies I used to enjoy, like video games and metal concerts. There just comes a time when you have to evaluate the enjoyment of the media in question and how that enjoyment stacks up to dealing with the dehumanizing mentality of being around others who've fallen way farther down the rabbit hole than you. I found myself no longer able to really relate to gamers, and I started with Atari then kept up through PS3, Xbox360, and PC. Same with the hard rock/heavy metal community. I couldn't hang with the general sentiment anymore. At least with perfume, you can enjoy it mostly solo and not feel like you're missing part of the experience, which is probably why I'm still here, and still able to enjoy certain fragrances despite their associations.

    Quote Originally Posted by HauteParfumGourmand View Post
    While I wait for the eventual tracking details for my orders from far more creative companies, I am using Sauvage EdT as a pleasant room freshener (conservatively). Very pleasant opening with an engineered juicy bergamot + linalyl acetate top, dry down is ho hum. I don't know why I like it, maybe it just makes me appreciate my other perfumes more, a good reference point for comparing modern vacuum distilled bergamot accords with companies that still use the real pure McCoy (outside of EU influence of course).
    Creation processes aside, I see enjoying any run-of-the-mill designer as the equivalent to enjoying your favorite fast food or casual dining. You know the chains homologate preparation and use the most economical ingredients they can buy according to scale, but that's not why you enjoy eating there. I've had many hand-cut steaks or hand-formed burger patties from freshly ground beef, but when convenient, I still enjoy piping hot batch of McDonald's fries or a burger from my local greasy spoon diner. I know they're using foodservice patties but they broil them so good! Point is, we don't eat chocolate mousse every day even if we could, and a plain 'ol Nestlé bar hits the spot. Maybe Sauvage just hits yours? That's literally me and most of my old Avons.
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    Z--I totally get that. It's definitely the reason why I chose to stop playing fighting video games. I only play single player RPG games and am having a lot more fun now. Perfume can be very private and personal--I'm not surprised you've kept your interest intact! Good to hear

    I do hope you still blast your music though!! People (usually straight cis men lol) can be such awful people at rock/metal concerts.
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    Default Re: Perfumes you own that go AGAINST your usual sensibilities or scruples.

    I've struggled to respond to this topic, ZealotCrusader, because once I try and enjoy a perfume that "goes against my usual sensibilities or scruples" then, bloop!, the scruple is gone and appears rather silly to me in retrospect.

    For example, I used to think I didn't like vanilla in perfumes, based on my exposure to drugstore vanillas and room candles, so I hesitated to try vintage Guerlains. Now I wear many perfumes with complex vanilla notes. Didn't think I liked mimosa very much, but now I realize that vintage Coco EDP has a big mimosa note, and I like that, along with some other perfumes that feature mimosa. As you know, I frequently complain about excessive woody aromachemicals in many new scents, but I enjoy Encre Noire, Rien Intense, and other perfumes that use these ingredients well.

    At this point, I still say that I don't like aquatics or sweet gourmands, but I am willing to be proved wrong. There's an exception to every perfume scruple.

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    Alexandria Fragrances - Hawaii Volcano & Wasted Moment: I don't like fake anything and I don't like replica anything. I'm a bit of a snob and appreciate quality products/service. Naturally, the idea of clone fragrances irritate me. That said, I was able to perform some mental gymnastics in my head to not think of clone fragrances as I do replica Swiss watches or replica luxury items. After all they're replicating a "scent" which isn't really a tangible thing... or is it?

    ANYways, for its genre and purpose Hawaii Volcano is downright amazing. Minimal to Zero cheap synthetic notes on opening, and it projects like a fruity summer beast. Whenever I'm going to any beachside destination, I don't even think twice. Just fill up the travel atomizer with Hawaii Volcano with a price that's next to nothing. Hard not to like it. Wasted moment is a play on Kilian Apple Brandy. A scent I love, but I don't necessarily want to smell like in public. With that feeling toward the scent, it's hard to justify paying $300 for it. Wasted Moment takes care of this novelty gourmand for the rare occasions I want to smell this on me at home.




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    Default Re: Perfumes you own that go AGAINST your usual sensibilities or scruples.

    Quote Originally Posted by grayspoole View Post
    I've struggled to respond to this topic, ZealotCrusader, because once I try and enjoy a perfume that "goes against my usual sensibilities or scruples" then, bloop!, the scruple is gone and appears rather silly to me in retrospect.

    For example, I used to think I didn't like vanilla in perfumes, based on my exposure to drugstore vanillas and room candles, so I hesitated to try vintage Guerlains. Now I wear many perfumes with complex vanilla notes. Didn't think I liked mimosa very much, but now I realize that vintage Coco EDP has a big mimosa note, and I like that, along with some other perfumes that feature mimosa. As you know, I frequently complain about excessive woody aromachemicals in many new scents, but I enjoy Encre Noire, Rien Intense, and other perfumes that use these ingredients well.

    At this point, I still say that I don't like aquatics or sweet gourmands, but I am willing to be proved wrong. There's an exception to every perfume scruple.
    Now I don't need to post anything, since grayspoole has expressed my sentiments better than I could have. "Bloop!" indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morning light View Post
    Z--I totally get that. It's definitely the reason why I chose to stop playing fighting video games. I only play single player RPG games and am having a lot more fun now. Perfume can be very private and personal--I'm not surprised you've kept your interest intact! Good to hear

    I do hope you still blast your music though!! People (usually straight cis men lol) can be such awful people at rock/metal concerts.
    I listen to everything from John Coltrane to Cannibal Corpse, Phil Collins to Drake, and Gordon Lightfoot to Peter Tosh. It's not uncommon for me to jump from an old Sublime record to some fantasy power metal like Rhapsody, and then wind down with Van Morrison or Boz Scaggs. I just like music anymore, so I blast whatever tickles me.

    Quote Originally Posted by grayspoole View Post
    I've struggled to respond to this topic, ZealotCrusader, because once I try and enjoy a perfume that "goes against my usual sensibilities or scruples" then, bloop!, the scruple is gone and appears rather silly to me in retrospect.

    For example, I used to think I didn't like vanilla in perfumes, based on my exposure to drugstore vanillas and room candles, so I hesitated to try vintage Guerlains. Now I wear many perfumes with complex vanilla notes. Didn't think I liked mimosa very much, but now I realize that vintage Coco EDP has a big mimosa note, and I like that, along with some other perfumes that feature mimosa. As you know, I frequently complain about excessive woody aromachemicals in many new scents, but I enjoy Encre Noire, Rien Intense, and other perfumes that use these ingredients well.

    At this point, I still say that I don't like aquatics or sweet gourmands, but I am willing to be proved wrong. There's an exception to every perfume scruple.
    I can really appreciate this exploring mindset, and much respect from me for those who have it.

    Quote Originally Posted by wood&leather View Post
    Alexandria Fragrances - Hawaii Volcano & Wasted Moment: I don't like fake anything and I don't like replica anything. I'm a bit of a snob and appreciate quality products/service. Naturally, the idea of clone fragrances irritate me. That said, I was able to perform some mental gymnastics in my head to not think of clone fragrances as I do replica Swiss watches or replica luxury items. After all they're replicating a "scent" which isn't really a tangible thing... or is it?

    ANYways, for its genre and purpose Hawaii Volcano is downright amazing. Minimal to Zero cheap synthetic notes on opening, and it projects like a fruity summer beast. Whenever I'm going to any beachside destination, I don't even think twice. Just fill up the travel atomizer with Hawaii Volcano with a price that's next to nothing. Hard not to like it. Wasted moment is a play on Kilian Apple Brandy. A scent I love, but I don't necessarily want to smell like in public. With that feeling toward the scent, it's hard to justify paying $300 for it. Wasted Moment takes care of this novelty gourmand for the rare occasions I want to smell this on me at home.

    Abdul Samad Al Quarashi - Elite Oud Oil: While I do enjoy complex artisanal scents, I usually filter full bottle purchases on whether or not the fragrance can be enjoyable to those around me. This requirement has filtered out 98% of natural oud oils from Feel Oud and Ensar Oud. In the oud sub-forum, ASQ ouds are seen as a bit of a faux-pas because they are notoriously horrible for product descriptions and no one seems to know where they get their oud. If that wasn't enough they have ouds from $70 to $4,000. Elite Oud Oil was my very first oud oil I bought for $80. It's raw, primitive, earthy and smells like the deepest parts of a rain forest. I LOVE doing a swipe of this on my chest before a workout. Oddly enough, I enjoy it head and shoulders above nearly every "real oud" I've tried from Feel Oud and Ensar with the exceptions being Borneo Zen and Tigerwood 1995. Elite Oud is an outcast to the oud elitist, it's a cheapie, but as far as I'm concerned it's the most enjoyable "stink" I've tried to date.
    What I'm basically reading from this is you like your top shelf, but will now and again sneak some Smirnoff or Miller High Life when the mood suits, which is totally fine. Look at me and my 90+ piece Avon collection that I wear intermittently with my niche and vintage designers. I love the finer things in life too, but when I get an itch for that Avon Black Suede, I dare someone to say something to me about it. You've also made me incidentally curious with that Hawaii Volcano stuff, because it just sounds so silly (and I like silly).
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