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    Quote Originally Posted by StellaDiverFlynn View Post
    I didn't know about its inclusion of ambergris either, until I read Claire Vukcevic's article on basenotes:

    http://www.basenotes.net/features/33...nd-half-truths

    Whether it's included in my bottle, there's a certain salty warmth and softly stony iodine coolness hiding underneath that complements the floral chypre and cinnamon pretty well in it.

    Wonderful! I'd read this previously but completely forgotten about it, so thank you again. Yup, you've sold it, I'll need to try that as well!

    Well then! Grayspoole, StellaDiverFlynn, it turns out I'm not the pioneer in adding ambergris to Mitsouko!

    Quote Originally Posted by ClaireV
    Abdul Samad Al Qurashi Sweet Blue Amber is a very true interpretation of grey or brown (standard) ambergris. It is very funky and halitosis-like at the start, but it eventually mellows out into a warm, salty, skin-like scent that is very sensual in an organic way. I like to layer this under certain Western scents like Shalimar or Mitsouko to give their notes a fuzzy, warm radiance and a funky animal touch that is missing from the modern versions.
    I guess this can be construed as 'great minds think alike'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benz3ne View Post

    I guess this can be construed as 'great minds think alike'?
    Aha, indeed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shemelimelle View Post
    Vintage Guerlain Chant D’Aromes. Any concentration. Older vintage preferred. Sampled 1960s edc. Superb. Patient but persistent. Ain’t nuttin’ in above quote I didn’t already know, or found helpful. Amused at the essay though.
    Have you been looking for this fragrance on Etsy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shemelimelle View Post
    Innocently sidelined, my presence on this thread won’t be rudely ignored. *nods head in firm confirmation of the fact*

    I don’t care. I won’t buy anything new or niche at this time. I will visit high-end department stores and boutiques for a sniff, but that’s all I plan on doing. I will not be deterred, or have my attention diverted onto lesser things.

    I specifically want to acquire an older vintage of Guerlain Chant D’Aromes in any concentration, and L’Heure Bleue items (of course!!), as requested on my Visitor Messages board. I also have a testlist that comprises mostly of vintages, many of them unattainable, I realize, but not all.

    I won’t budge. I won’t be bumped off either. No sirees.
    Kudos if/when you stick to the game plan. Setting a budget has always worked for me for high(er) end perfumes (read: more expensive perfumes). For example, putting a set amount of money aside on a monthly basis allows me to quantify how far I am off a goal. I.e. if I wish to procure something costing £300, and I put aside £50/mo, it'd take 6 months (obviously) so I have quantified it. If I decided to sell something in the meantime, it'd only reduce the time spent waiting.

    For the record, not that it requires explanation, I never stipulated that it wasn't innocently sidelined. As for the 'rudely ignoring', it's more a case of 'casually omitting' given the topic of Chant d'Aromes doesn't apply to me in any way/shape/form, and has not been suggested by myself at any point during this thread. I guess my 'ignoring' of a topic which doesn't involve me, on a thread I took the time to start, is in a similar vein as ignoring someone who might wilfully pester, to coin a phrase. Of course, I mean no offence here, it can just be distracting to have irrelevant posts where my question has been 'casually omitted' for someone else to voice their own queries, as I'm sure you'll appreciate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shemelimelle View Post
    Etsy doesn’t work for me. 1. You need to open an account, and 2. Their return policies aren’t that good, so I’ve heard. The pictures of those bottles make me a little crazy, but I won’t fall for that.
    I’m happy being an eBay “guest” shopper, but finding a decent Guerlain on eBay has its challenges here in the U.S. because of LVMH, so I’ve heard and seen for myself.
    If you have a good idea of what you're looking for, or ask around regarding reputable Etsy sellers, you might be able to pick up something that requires no returning?
    Same goes for eBay - regardless of the individuals' return policies, if you suspect something to be unsavoury/faked then you can submit a complaint and eBay will usually side with the buyer in that case. In effect, this bypasses the returns policy.

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    Soliciting sales outside of the Marketplace forum is not allowed. Several posts have been removed.
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    Checking in again!

    Weil - Zibeline.
    Well. Wow. This stuff is absolutely exquisite. Musky, fat, round, smooth, sweet and dirty. Completely full of character and flavour. Femme but I'd gladly wear it if it wasn't akin to hen's teeth. I'll gladly use this sample up, sparingly.

    Mitsouko - EdT, late '80s/early '90s.
    Far woodier than the EdC, and giving more of it's presentation towards top notes, too. It's fuller than the EdC but doesn't detract from the beauty of 'earlier' Mitsouko as I experienced with the EdC. I'd love to try this with the Mysuru Ambur, but it doesn't need it like the EdC might. I think I prefer Toilette over Cologne, but they're both stellar. Again, I'll enjoy using up this sample.

    To summarise - Mitsouko in any variation is fantastic. La Nuit EdP is brilliant but obnoxious, loud, nose-catching (as opposed to eye-catching). Armani Armani has the makings of something spectacular, but falls marginally short for me. Weil Zibeline is outstanding.

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    Thank you Benz3ne for sharing your expriences with these perfumes! I share your enthusiam in Zibeline, what a beauty it is! I especially love its buttery, even fatty musk characteristics, like a sumptuous fur coat wrapping around a chypre body. It's a pity that it's not very easy to find, but if you happen to come across the bath oil version of Zibeline, it's probably worth investigating as it mostly retains the musky aspect of the Parfum, although simultaneously rendered more spicy as well.

    I too find Mitsouko EDT from early 90s surprisingly woody.
    Currently wearing: Aubépine-Acacia by Creed

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    Hello again Benz3ne and StellaDiverFlynn-

    I think we are in complete agreement on all points regarding these vintages.

    Zibeline is such a spectacular, opulent, deep blend of floral, herbal, and resinous notes. A modest application of the extrait lasts 12 hours, easily, and develops and morphs in fascinating ways. The experience of perfumes like this one is why I treasure my vintage bottles.

    So what do you make of the whole concept of “parfums de fourrure” or fur perfumes? (The House of Weil was a furrier first, then launched perfumes as accessories to the furs.) It's a fascinating concept that seems to rely on two, very different ideas. One the one hand, you might have perfume with a fur note--a specific kind of animalic note. In our house, we all think our cat's fur smells lovely. She keeps herself scrupulously clean, so her fur smells dry and sweetly musky--which is my idea of a good fur note.

    Alternatively, a parfum de fourrure is said to mask the smell of a fur. (So coats made up of the skins of dead animals can have unpleasant odors? You don’t say! And to solve this, you slapped on some Zibeline?) With no direct experience of how a fur coat smells, good or bad, I’ve been wondering how Zibeline would improve it. It is often described as an animalic perfume but I think a strong, skanky animalic blend would have defeated the purpose. And to me, my Zibeline is not overtly animalic, in the skanky, dirty sense of that term. Zibeline has a soft musky base that is not at all skanky, along with creamy powderiness and a definite herbal feeling. It’s deeply musky but dry, an aromatic blend that I believe would blend with, and take the edge off, the fur smell rather than accentuating it or trying to mask it. Or so I imagine.


    Meanwhile, I rewatched Stage Door (1937) last night...a perfectly wonderful film about young actresses with Katherine Hepburn, Ginger Rogers, Lucille Ball, Gail Patrick, Eve Arden trading wisecracks at their absolute best. Furs are a visual and plot theme. Anyone with a part in a play, or family money, or a wealthy boyfriend has a fur...ermine, fox, sable. Eve Arden wears her cat (living) around her neck, like a joke stole. I wonder what perfume they all wore with them.
    Currently wearing: Amarige by Givenchy




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