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    I've come across an interesting early bottle of Egoiste made in the USA.

    My reaction on initial spray was that something was wrong. I've had two bottles of vintage Egoiste (and still have one of them, both early, made-in-France splashes) that were much more similar to each other than the juice from this spray.

    I know people think splashes can be a risk, but the 75-ml splash of Egoiste that I finished was the perfect version of Egoiste. Dark, rich, fruity, woody, almost brassy. My girlfriend called it sparkly. It was the best version of any of these fragrances, for my tastes, including Bois Noir, Egoiste Cologne Concentree, and later versions of Egoiste, which I like just about as much as vintage (most of them - some recent versions (2017-ish) were scratchy).

    Cacio and IsoESuperman compared that version of Egoiste to Bois Noir and Egoiste Concentree and agreed with me that Egoiste was better. (Some people like Bois Noir more: Purecaramel, Cook.bot, Oviatt, Hednic).

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    This made-in-the-USA Egoiste is a closer match to Bois Noir based on today's wearing, than the other vintage Egoiste I have, a simpler, but darker, wood fragrance.

    Another strange thing about this bottle is the amount of suspended particles. If I had received a splash like this, I would likely think the floating particles were from skin.

    Vintage Chanel fragrances can be outstanding. I've been dabbling with a bunch of women's Guerlain and Chanel, and coming back to Egoiste, it holds its own among the greats.

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    Default Re: Early Egoiste made in USA

    Does it look different (bottle/box)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    Does it look different (bottle/box)?
    The made-in-USA bottles mention New York in addition to Paris.

    This is the back of that box. Odd, this picture can make my mouth water.

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    Here are the splashes:

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    I'd like that in my wardrobe -- thanks for the info

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaern View Post
    I'd like that in my wardrobe -- thanks for the info
    This new spray bottle is a little on the lighter side, less punch than the Paris splashes, but lovely in its lightness.

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    Default Re: Early Egoiste made in USA

    Interesting. Does it have one of those 3-character batch codes printed in dot matrix? I think I'm seeing the ghostly hint of one in the photo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoRo View Post
    Interesting. Does it have one of those 3-character batch codes printed in dot matrix? I think I'm seeing the ghostly hint of one in the photo.
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    Bavard, I've been asking this question recently about my own bottle which is exactly like yours.

    I've been trying to find more pictures of this bottle online that have both Paris and New York. The only time that I see both Paris and New York is with Egoiste Cologne Concentree.

    What year is your bottle from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.CAL Fragrance Reviewer View Post
    Bavard, I've been asking this question recently about my own bottle which is exactly like yours:

    What year is your bottle from?
    I don't know. Around 1990, I'd guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoRo View Post
    Interesting. Does it have one of those 3-character batch codes printed in dot matrix? I think I'm seeing the ghostly hint of one in the photo.
    I thought the batch code was on the back of the bottle towards the bottom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bavard View Post
    I don't know. Around 1990, I'd guess.

    Could you show the bottom of your box? There should be a batch code.
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    Default Re: Early Egoiste made in USA

    There's no batch code on the box. On the bottle it looks like PF1.

    I tend to think the Chanel batch codes are fairly random.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bavard View Post
    There's no batch code on the box. On the bottle it looks like PF1.

    I tend to think the Chanel batch codes are fairly random.
    You can get at least a generic year by what is presented on the back and bottom of the box. That's why I'm asking a photo of the bottom of the box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N.CAL Fragrance Reviewer View Post
    You can get at least a generic year by what is presented on the back and bottom of the box. That's why I'm asking a photo of the bottom of the box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bavard View Post
    Interesting. If it didn't have a recycle symbol and a barcode it would make it a 1990 bottle. However it does have a small ingredients list on the back. The 7320007 formulation number I haven't seen before. Usually you would see something like 114.450 listed.

    I wonder how long Egoiste bottles with both New York and Paris were made for. The one that I have smells fantastic especially at the drydown. I actually like it better than Egoiste Cologne Concentree.

    Maybe RoRo can elaborate too?

    I think there were also L'Egoiste labeled bottles that existed at the time. There were also the sticker Egoiste bottles too.

    I've also seen Egoiste in the form of a black metal bottle but that's extremely rare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N.CAL Fragrance Reviewer View Post
    I thought the batch code was on the back of the bottle towards the bottom.
    Not on the Made in USA products, in my experience. The dot-matrix batch codes (printed on the bottom of the bottle) seem to go hand in hand with "New York" on the packaging. In fact, it was those codes that strengthened my belief that "New York" on the box/bottle actually meant "Made in USA".

    I'm not sure how long they were in use or when. Possibly late '80s through late '90s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bavard View Post
    There's no batch code on the box. On the bottle it looks like PF1.

    I tend to think the Chanel batch codes are fairly random.

    I agree, insofar as there have been at least three different coding systems over the years.


    (an example of the other codes no one talks about)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoRo View Post
    I agree, insofar as there have been at least three different coding systems over the years.


    (an example of the other codes no one talks about)
    My bottle doesn't have a 3 digit code on the bottom. I was tried to shine some light at it but couldn't see anything. Perhaps it was removed?

    I'd like to know approximately what year bottle I'm dealing with. I don't have the box unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bavard View Post
    There's no batch code on the box. On the bottle it looks like PF1.

    I tend to think the Chanel batch codes are fairly random.

    I wonder if the 1 represents the year and either the P or F represents the month or the ID of the fragrance?

    What throws me off is the short listed ingredients on the back of Bavard's box. For a bottle that was made in France, a short list of ingredients would indicate a bottle that was produced between 1998-2004.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N.CAL Fragrance Reviewer View Post
    My bottle doesn't have a 3 digit code on the bottom. I was tried to shine some light at it but couldn't see anything. Perhaps it was removed?

    I'd like to know approximately what year bottle I'm dealing with. I don't have the box unfortunately.
    I think the ink used for those codes wipes off pretty easily.

    Is your bottle the one standing on the laptop? I'd say that one dates to no later than around 1994, since "eau de toilette" is positioned above "Chanel" on the bottle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.CAL Fragrance Reviewer View Post
    I wonder if the 1 represents the year and either the P or F represents the month or the ID of the fragrance?

    What throws me off is the short listed ingredients on the back of Bavard's box. For a bottle that was made in France, a short list of ingredients would indicate a bottle that was produced between 1998-2004.
    Bois Noir (1987), made in France, has a short ingredients list on the box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoRo View Post
    I think the ink used for those codes wipes off pretty easily.

    Is your bottle the one standing on the laptop? I'd say that one dates to no later than around 1994, since "eau de toilette" is positioned above "Chanel" on the bottle.
    That's definitely mine. In your opinion approximately when did Egoiste began to experience reformulation? What year was the eau de toilette moved below Paris?
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    Quote Originally Posted by N.CAL Fragrance Reviewer View Post
    That's definitely mine. In your opinion approximately when did Egoiste began to experience reformulation? What year was the eau de toilette moved below Paris?
    I'm afraid I have nothing to offer on the history of (suspected) reformulations with Egoiste.

    As for the other question, I think a consensus was reached that the change had been made by 1994. It may even have started in late 1993.
    On early editions of Egoiste Platinum, which was released in 1993, EDT is positioned above Chanel. But these bottles are such a rarity on the used market today that I'm left to conclude that the redesign happened quite early in the product's life cycle.

    Of course, the fact that so few such bottles of Egoiste Platinum can be found today doesn't necessarily mean that few were actually produced. It could be that they just never made it to the used market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoRo View Post
    I agree, insofar as there have been at least three different coding systems over the years.


    (an example of the other codes no one talks about)
    Why would Chanel want to have multiple coding systems? The only thing I could think of is to distinguish geographical locations of where the bottle was made - US and France.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N.CAL Fragrance Reviewer View Post
    Why would Chanel want to have multiple coding systems? The only thing I could think of is to distinguish geographical locations of where the bottle was made - US and France.
    I literally laughed out loud. Who knows? 😂

    To clarify, though, that pic (batch code 46A) is of a vintage Chanel that was made in France. In other words, there have been at least two coding systems just for the perfumes made in France.

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    Chanel packaging and coding seem somewhat random to me, with lots of overlap. I have an Egoiste box with a bar code (made in France), but no ingredients listed.

    I was thinking the move of "Eau de Toilette" to the bottom of the bottle could have been as late as 1997. It could depend on the size of the bottle, and whether it's Egoiste or Egosite Platinum, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bavard View Post
    Chanel packaging and coding seem somewhat random to me, with lots of overlap. I have an Egoiste box with a bar code (made in France), but no ingredients listed.

    I was thinking the move of "Eau de Toilette" to the bottom of the bottle could have been as late as 1997. It could depend on the size of the bottle, and whether it's Egoiste or Egosite Platinum, etc.
    I have a bottle of Antaeus (100ml splash) I purchased in the UK in November 1998 with the vintage positioning. The purchase reciept with the date was inside the box and was someting I'd long forgotten about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoRo View Post
    I'm afraid I have nothing to offer on the history of (suspected) reformulations with Egoiste.

    As for the other question, I think a consensus was reached that the change had been made by 1994. It may even have started in late 1993.
    On early editions of Egoiste Platinum, which was released in 1993, EDT is positioned above Chanel. But these bottles are such a rarity on the used market today that I'm left to conclude that the redesign happened quite early in the product's life cycle.

    Of course, the fact that so few such bottles of Egoiste Platinum can be found today doesn't necessarily mean that few were actually produced. It could be that they just never made it to the used market.
    I have the original 1993 still sealed.

    Back in the day, Egoiste was considered a real failure for Chanel. I was in my mid twenties when Egoiste came out and no-one wore it. Not a popular scent at all. Platinum was Chanel's attempt at making Egoiste more friendly. Ironically, over the decades, Egoiste has achieved near immortality and Platinum is something no-one ever talks about anymore.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bavard View Post
    Chanel packaging and coding seem somewhat random to me, with lots of overlap. I have an Egoiste box with a bar code (made in France), but no ingredients listed.

    I was thinking the move of "Eau de Toilette" to the bottom of the bottle could have been as late as 1997. It could depend on the size of the bottle, and whether it's Egoiste or Egosite Platinum, etc.
    In your opinion what be the best years to obtain? I think anything with eau de toilette located above the Paris is good. That would mean all bottles would be made 1994 or earlier? The barcode and recycle symbol would mean 1992 or later, a barcode and no recycle would mean 1990-1991/2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gail Elliott View Post
    I have the original 1993 still sealed.

    Back in the day, Egoiste was considered a real failure for Chanel. I was in my mid twenties when Egoiste came out and no-one wore it. Not a popular scent at all. Platinum was Chanel's attempt at making Egoiste more friendly. Ironically, over the decades, Egoiste has achieved near immortality and Platinum is something no-one ever talks about anymore.

    I never tried the original formulation of Platinum Egoiste (Egoiste Platinum). How different is it to what is available today. I remember not enjoying it when I tried several years ago.
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