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    Default Re: Reformulated Fragrances That Are Most Different From Their Vintage Counterparts

    It's a crime what they did with Azzaro pour homme, RL Polo, Polo Sport, Xeryus, Carolina Herrera for Man...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RCavs View Post
    It's a crime what they did with Azzaro pour homme, RL Polo, Polo Sport, Xeryus, Carolina Herrera for Man...
    totally agree with you RCavs !
    i wonder if they have commited the same crime with Bogart Signature ?
    I have a 60% bottle from late 90's to mid 2000's & i'd like to grab another as a backup .
    Anybody got a comparison ?
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    +1 Bonnette. I haven’t smelled a Caron in ages. Not surprised at this. And I agree with you about Guerlain. Anyway, I smelled Worth’s Je Reviens in the new formula and found it so unpleasant, I skipped placing the frag in my “Have Tried” list. A bug spray / cheap hairspray hybrid that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonnette View Post
    Caron's En Avion and Tabac Blond are two that come to mind. They're now just innocuous floral scents, having lost their edge and intriguing undertones. Today's Je Reviens (Worth) is sharp, uninteresting and almost unpleasant, compared to its former sparkling self. The Guerlains have really suffered. This sad state of affairs is understandable, since the best vintage perfumes were formulated with heavy doses of now-restricted ingredients - one can't really fault the perfumers working in today's environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrios View Post
    totally agree with you RCavs !
    i wonder if they have commited the same crime with Bogart Signature ?
    I have a 60% bottle from late 90's to mid 2000's & i'd like to grab another as a backup .
    Anybody got a comparison ?
    cheers
    I got good and bad news!
    Bad news: a crime was commited against Bogart Signature...
    Good news: It's a minor crime. Moss and leather definitely reduced but the main structure was maintained. Now, It's a lighter version of its former self. Still decent, not a shame as the ones previously mentioned. YET.
    I have a late 90's and what I think It's a post 2010 bottle.
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    Default Re: Reformulated Fragrances That Are Most Different From Their Vintage Counterparts

    The reissued Dunhill Edition has lost all the brilliance of the original blend, one of the most disappointing reformulations for me ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fjord View Post
    The reissued Dunhill Edition has lost all the brilliance of the original blend, one of the most disappointing reformulations for me ever.
    Man, that stinks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRaider430 View Post
    The main one I think of is Jean Patou's Patou Pour Homme. Many think the vintage PPH was one of the best men's fragrances in history.

    They quit making it for years but came out with a new formulation bearing the same name back in 2013 (I can't believe it's been that long). The new one had the same name (Patou Pour Homme), but to me, it smelled like a completely different fragrance. The vintage PPH was a classic men's oriental fougere, but the reformulation was as far from it as east is from west, IMO. It might as well have been an aquatic!

    And the fact that nobody ever talks about the new one suggests it was a massive fail.
    I agree that the 2013 version of PPH has noticeable differences from the original, with much less the oriental warmth and more the bright herbal tarragon and mossy patchouli. Overall I consider it a fougere with more emphasis on aromatic herbs and overall much more sparkling than PPH, like a spring/summer cologne version of the original PPH. I actually find it pretty decent especially considering today's market and limits imposed by regulations, although I agree that the original is much more complex.

    As for my pick on the topic, Caron Narcisse Noir now smells very different from the original Le Narcisse Noir. The original version has a very prominent leathery animalic musk, thus rendering the orange blossom much more sensual and dark, while the version that I tried a few years back is a rather elegant and proper orange blossom with an aldehyde-like soapy opening, and very different in mood.
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    I think the house of CARON has done the very worst job at reformulating their classic scents. The current Tabac Blond is a miserable replacement for the vintage.

    CHANEL's new formulations of Bois des Iles and Cuir de Russie are beautiful, even if they aren't exact copies of the original scents.

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    ALL reformulations are criminal acts imo against ART, and avantgarde wich is what perfumes and scents USED to be....its all turned to watered down crap wich in itself is a trademark of todays culture

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    BIJAN for Men

    i purchased a current back up bottle thinking it was ok going by the reviews .
    Well it is not recognizable as vintage Bijan FM .
    Totally different to the brute powerhouse that was the original .
    In its place they are giving us a nice n soft frag that can easily bottled up as a feminine .
    Amongst the poorest reformulations in my opinion .


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    I think Jubilation xxv is the most noticeable for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheetah1919 View Post
    I think Jubilation xxv is the most noticeable for me.
    How so?
    Currently wearing: Jubilation XXV by Amouage

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    Default Re: Reformulated Fragrances That Are Most Different From Their Vintage Counterparts

    Quote Originally Posted by LatinNote View Post
    How so?
    The older stuff, which I only have a couple decants of, has the beautiful warm smoky jam with perfect frankincense. The more recent version which I have a FB of, has some sort of a harsh note that feels like it is blocking some of the richness which makes xxv so amazing. It gets somewhat better in the drydown, but the stuff from ten years ago is better imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrios View Post
    BIJAN for Men

    i purchased a current back up bottle thinking it was ok going by the reviews .
    Well it is not recognizable as vintage Bijan FM .
    Totally different to the brute powerhouse that was the original .
    In its place they are giving us a nice n soft frag that can easily bottled up as a feminine .
    Amongst the poorest reformulations in my opinion .
    Doesn't it even resemble the original stuff?
    I have the current formulation and have never smelled the original one. Now I understand why I didn't get all the talk about its brutal power...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheetah1919 View Post
    The older stuff, which I only have a couple decants of, has the beautiful warm smoky jam with perfect frankincense. The more recent version which I have a FB of, has some sort of a harsh note that feels like it is blocking some of the richness which makes xxv so amazing. It gets somewhat better in the drydown, but the stuff from ten years ago is better imo.
    I have the current FB of the recent one, but would love to try the original pre-magnetic cap one. Too bad, they are hard to find, even on eBay. Sigh.
    Currently wearing: Jubilation XXV by Amouage

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    Default Re: Reformulated Fragrances That Are Most Different From Their Vintage Counterparts

    Quote Originally Posted by RCavs View Post
    Doesn't it even resemble the original stuff?
    I have the current formulation and have never smelled the original one. Now I understand why I didn't get all the talk about its brutal power...
    Nothing alike ...... I'lll be selling my bottle on Ebay next big sellout .
    Im lucky i have about 80mls of vintage juice in 2 bottles .
    Definately worth buying if you can locate some .
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