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    Default Plum accord and DMBCB - butyric acid question

    Trying to make a plum base and have ingredient that says this on TGSC:
    ."...Needless to add, that the smallest traces of free Butyric acid are quite detrimental to this odor picture"

    1. Is there butyric acid in any lactone chemicals (besides maybe butter absolute) to worry about?
    2. What does 'detrimental' mean, it will smell bad, or disappear/ degrade?

    This is a just a placeholder accord for now... so accuracy on this is not important, just want to be able to better understand these comments on TGSC.

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    Default Re: Plum accord and DMBCB - butyric acid question

    I take "detrimental" as to smelling bad.

    "Byproducts associated with rot, such as propionic acid and butyric acid, can leave feet smelling like rancid cabbage. "
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    Default Re: Plum accord and DMBCB - butyric acid question

    I think I need to just avoid EO's. It is not likely there are essential oils in Robertet's accords, right?

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    Default Re: Plum accord and DMBCB - butyric acid question

    Detrimental , if it is like the corresponding italian, means that it makes the (overall) value diminish.
    Not stricltly related to odour.
    Last edited by pierpaolo72; 15th May 2019 at 07:13 PM.

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    Default Re: Plum accord and DMBCB - butyric acid question

    Quote Originally Posted by Thea in Fl View Post
    I think I need to just avoid EO's. It is not likely there are essential oils in Robertet's accords, right?
    Plum is hard to make, certainly. But, you don't have to completely avoid naturals, I have 1.91% naturals in my Plum accord.
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    Default Re: Plum accord and DMBCB - butyric acid question

    Quote Originally Posted by pierpaolo72 View Post
    Detrimental , if it is like the corresponding italian, means that it makes the (overall) value diminish.
    Not stricltly related to odour.
    Okay now that makes sense I see it is a food ingredient too and this probably means diminish in milk items then, and not related to essential oils.

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    Default Re: Plum accord and DMBCB - butyric acid question

    Quote Originally Posted by pkiler View Post
    Plum is hard to make, certainly. But, you don't have to completely avoid naturals, I have 1.91% naturals in my Plum accord.
    Yes I know your plum accord is coming, I am actually making a 'stand-in' for now with apricot and a couple other things , want to see how it goes in the whole perfume and if I need anything else.
    Plum 'stand-in': apricot accord, valerian root, and the dmbcb,




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