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    I'm travelling for work today and encountered this duo, which was a surprise to me because I haven't even noticed any press releases or posts about these:

    https://nstperfume.com/2019/04/24/bo...ew-fragrances/

    As some may know, Bottega Veneta has a new creative director who is eager to make his mark on the house, with the reception of their new direction at least im fashion being luke warm to say the least.

    Well, let me put it this way. I've got both the men's EdT and women's EdP on blotters with me, and... Are the scents pleasant? Yes. Are they completely unimaginative? Unfortunately, also a resounding yes.

    The EdT is completely transparent and unisex. It's the sort of scent that reminds you of a generic citrus scent (from the same house that made Knot, for Pete's sake) with a generic shampoo vibe. It reminds me of a reject for a Guerlain's Aqua Allegoria, namely Bergamote Calabria, only that the Guerlain is punchier...

    The EdP is a variation of the EdT, only in addition to generic citrus we also get a generic white floral accord. It's also a tiny bit stronger.

    I'm also not a fan of the bottles. Gone is the attention to detail (leather around the cap, intercciato embossed on the bottom), and they look like they're out of the My Burberry parts bin: a square solid bottle with an acetate(?) marbled stopper. I honestly had to make a double take as to whether this was a BV fragrance - the only giveaway was it's positoning on the BV shelf.

    I'd love to know who the perfumer of these is because it is about as listless as Burberry Her, also coincidentally released after a change in creative director. It does have the vibe of a very watered down Kurkdjian, but he's usually happy to sign his creations, so who knows.

    If Bottega Veneta can't release a solid fragrance, then one of the last bastions of consistently good fragrance houses catering to the mainstream has fallen. Which makes me sad and afraid.

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    Default Re: Bottega Veneta Illusione - Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid...

    Wow. Yes - stolen Burberry vibe!
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    Default Re: Bottega Veneta Illusione - Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid...

    Bummer. I think their original scent is fantastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nastka View Post
    If Bottega Veneta can't release a solid fragrance, then one of the last bastions of consistently good fragrance houses catering to the mainstream has fallen. Which makes me sad and afraid.
    As a hardcore fan of the original BV women's EdP, I join you in your despair, Nastka. And the phrase "new creative director" makes me nervous about the future of their existing scents. I'm thinking already about more backups to join my current three bottles.

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    I doubt the new creative director will have anything to say about perfumes beyond the bottle design (if that). Still, disappointing release from what you say.

    As for the clothes and bags, we shall see. I do like the pouf bag, which I think was designed by the new director. I need to look again at the clothes for men.

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    Thanks for your current thoughts on this house.
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    Mean spirited, nasty, snide, sarcastic, hateful, and rude individuals on Basenotes don't warrant or deserve my or other Basenoters' acknowledgement or respect.

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    Default Re: Bottega Veneta Illusione - Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cook.bot View Post
    As a hardcore fan of the original BV women's EdP, I join you in your despair, Nastka. And the phrase "new creative director" makes me nervous about the future of their existing scents. I'm thinking already about more backups to join my current three bottles.
    I have 3 edp and 2 parfum bottles of original BV. Hope it will be enough.

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    It's amazing -- after the original BV for Men, which I love, nothing (especially the flankers) has come close imo

    Talk about 'peaking too soon'

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    Quote Originally Posted by cazaubon View Post
    Bummer. I think their original scent is fantastic.
    As are the flankers. L'Absolu which is the latest is very close to Eau Velours, but with more dry leather. Awesome.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cook.bot View Post
    As a hardcore fan of the original BV women's EdP, I join you in your despair, Nastka. And the phrase "new creative director" makes me nervous about the future of their existing scents. I'm thinking already about more backups to join my current three bottles.
    I'm thinking about jumping for the flankers. I hope the original will be at the least risk of discontinuation.

    Quote Originally Posted by cacio View Post
    I doubt the new creative director will have anything to say about perfumes beyond the bottle design (if that). Still, disappointing release from what you say.

    As for the clothes and bags, we shall see. I do like the pouf bag, which I think was designed by the new director. I need to look again at the clothes for men.

    cacio
    It may depend on the creative director. Some may have more input than others. Tom Ford and Mugler come to mind as being highly curated to fit the company image.

    Do you mean the pouch like clutch? I like that one too. The rest of the leather goods looks disappointing, especially with the introduction of the embossed brand text.

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    Thanks for your current thoughts on this house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaern View Post
    It's amazing -- after the original BV for Men, which I love, nothing (especially the flankers) has come close imo

    Talk about 'peaking too soon'
    What is amazing? The new releases? They're incredibly underwhelming to my nose, but I accept that 1. tastes may differ and 2. I may be anosmic to some of the ingredients.

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    Default Re: Bottega Veneta Illusione - Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid...

    Yes, the pouch bag
    \https://www.bottegaveneta.com/us/onl...ique/the-pouch
    It actually looks better in person rather than in the pic.

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    Default Re: Bottega Veneta Illusione - Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid...

    Quote Originally Posted by Nastka View Post
    As are the flankers. L'Absolu which is the latest is very close to Eau Velours, but with more dry leather. Awesome.
    I just got samples of the L'Absolu and had the opposite reaction. Felt like they had stripped all the flesh off the bones of the original. But then, I didn't like the Velours, either.

    I'm thinking about jumping for the flankers. I hope the original will be at the least risk of discontinuation.
    Joining you in that hope.

    And hoping they continue the bath products of the original. They're so good.

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    Default Re: Bottega Veneta Illusione - Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid...

    Why do they always have to mess with iconic bottles? They could have at least retained the house’s signature intrecciato style and perhaps pick some lessons from John Varvatos’ design team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nastka View Post
    What is amazing? The new releases? They're incredibly underwhelming to my nose, but I accept that 1. tastes may differ and 2. I may be anosmic to some of the ingredients.
    I haven't tried them so can't comment. No, it's amazing how bad the subsequent offerings have been after the original

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cook.bot View Post
    I just got samples of the L'Absolu and had the opposite reaction. Felt like they had stripped all the flesh off the bones of the original. But then, I didn't like the Velours, either.
    I'm not the hugest fan of Velours, but I like how L'Absolu was handled. You're right that they stripped the flesh of the bones, but they then used different materials to rebuild a similar body, giving it a heft that is closer to the leathery dryness of Cuir Amethyte and Daim Blond.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaern View Post
    I haven't tried them so can't comment. No, it's amazing how bad the subsequent offerings have been after the original
    Depends whether you are looking at masculines, feminines or the whole picture I think. I think the masculines have been handled well, but that the feminine stuff is exceptionally solid. The only duds to me were Eau Sensuelle, L'Eau Aromatique(?), and perhaps the Extreme in my opinion, whereas the Knot range depended on your tolerance to neroli.

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    The 50 ml refill bottle with the butterfly icon (are they getting rid of that?) and the frosted intrecciato bottom is one of my all time reached-for scents. I also have backups.

    For a fashion house known for its luxe leathers, I really think they need to keep a leather note in their scents.

    I also think their jewellery lines should reflect the intrecciato motif. I no longer see this.

    The men's parfum (actually and EDP) is also no longer.
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