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    I've never sampled any Tom Ford fragrances, but it looks like they have many well regarded and reviewed lines. What are some of your favorites? Also what's the deal with all of these special ones that have come out this year? Seems like a whole bunch.

    An older one that had been reviewed a lot and liked was the Tom Ford Extreme from about 2009.

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    Check out the reviews and forum talk for various ones from TF, as well as review pages on Fragrantica.

    My favs are Grey Vetiver (EdP version), Tobacco Vanille, and I guess Tuscan Leather. For some reason, Tom Ford doesn't stand out to me a whole lot - but I do need to do more sniffing. I've just kind of never really gave much attention to their whole green/blue citrusy type frags.

    Lost Cherry got some hype recently as well. A lot of men like the older Italian Cypress as well - not sure how the whole 'reserve collection' stacks up to the originals.
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    If you have a mall near you with a Sephora or Nordstrom, you should be able to go and find out for yourself. The nice thing about the TF line, including the Private Blends, is that it is relatively easy to find and sample at the mall. Nordstrom generally has more options than Sephora in my experience.

    I own the aforementioned Italian Cypress and Noir Anthracite, both of which I really like. I don't have any experience with TF Extreme, as it isn't really my kind of scent. I also like Grey Vetiver, although, like many TF scents, it's a bit too expensive for what it is, and there are other green/citrus/vetiver scents that are similar but more affordable. I am also a fan of Oud Wood and Vert d'Encens. They are all really big, loud, strong scents - the fragrance equivalent of a thick-tipped indelible marker.

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    Own quite a few - both from the normal line and the Private Blend line.

    Almost all are worth a try IMO, so I would highly recommend not turning away from an opportunity to sniff one that you have not.


    My personal top 10 Tom Ford scents:

    Amber Absolute
    Grey Vetiver EDP
    Rive d'Ambre
    Tom Ford for Men
    Cafe Rose
    Bois Marocain
    Tobacco Vanille
    Neroli Portofino
    Black Violet
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    I have found more I like in their regular (less expensive) line, particularly Grey Vetiver.
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    Grey Vetiver is pleasant
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    A growing fan of this House. High quality and excellent performers. Digging Beau de Jour now.
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    Tom Ford Extreme is nice. I originally bought Black Orchid, but just didn't feel it (or like I could pull it off), took it back to Nordstrom (because they'll take anything, and I mean anything, back) and exchanged it for Extreme. Never regretted it.
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    I'm a fan of quite a few, although Tobacco Vanille did not agree with me. It made be sneeze and cough.

    Amber Absolute - probably my favorite amber scent. Ridiculous longevity and great for winter.

    Grey Vetiver - great work scent

    Sahara Noir - my favorite incense scent, and I have quite a few incense-centric scents. It's beautiful. Unfortunately, it's no longer available so you have to find it used.

    Fucking Fabulous - delightful almond scent.

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    My hot take on Tom Ford is this: Slightly-overpriced main line that reworks, combines, or updates classic scents or his own past efforts for houses he no longer works for, and an extremely-overpriced line of niche scents with double the performance which represnt all the stuff that didn't make the cut for the main line by being underdeveloped or too risky.

    He repackages a lot of styles from discontinued fragrances stretching back decades as luxury tier niche items in his Private Collection but in a very linear front-loaded manner, plus recently the occasional cynical release like Fucking Fabulous, Lost Cherry, and Lavender Extrême, although a few gems exist in the lineup.

    Tom Ford Signature/standard lines feel more complex, developed, rounded, and complete even though they are ironically cheaper than the Private Collection. The Signature Line is the stuff I think he's actually proud of, and the most-loved scents come from it, while his niche-tier is mostly just taking the piss.

    All in all, Tom Ford is a house of tributes to perfume's past, just redressed with modern aromachemicals, and a lot of inconsistencies both in composition, performance, and price. The only things remotely modern in style are some of the Private Collection items, which again are overpriced and oftentimes too linear compared to competing products.

    You will need to do a LOT of testing to separate the wheat from chaff with Tom Ford, and sometimes a scent in the Private Collection that does well gets promoted to the less-expensive Signature line, like Ombre Leather.

    My faves:

    Signature:

    Black Orchid
    Grey Vetiver
    Noir
    Noir Anthracite

    Private Collection:

    Noir de Noir
    Cafe Rose
    Fougère d'Argent
    Beau de Jour
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    Italian Cypress is a good one.
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    So far liked Man, Man Extreme, Grey Vetiver EDP, Noir, Noir de Noir most among the fragrances of this house.

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    Hmm,

    My opinion on Tom Ford. The house has a 'handful' of good fragrances and a LOT of 'misses'

    Here are the ones I think are good:

    1) Neroli Portofino (or the Acqua or the Forte, they all smell virtually the same and I prefer the strongest-Forte version), which are obviously based on or giving a respectful/tasteful/classy tribute to the Maurer & Wirtz classic 'Original Eau de Cologne' 4711. The original 4711 is 2-century old fragrance, but it doesn't last but 10-15 minutes and disappears. Neroli Portifino and the flankers all smell the same IMO, but have different concentrations and the 'Forte' version that is the longest lasting (5-6 hours which is certainly better than 10-15 mins). IMO, this Tom Ford fragrance is a triumph and is IMO, the best tribute to a classic scent that I've smelled in my 3 years of fragrance enthusiasm.

    2) Plum Japonaise - Look, I don't think it's for 'everyone' but this one really has a niche style with an almost designer hook to draw me in. If I were to liken it to a momentary attraction to a woman, it's like that woman who you initially almost just not think to look at but realize she has something attractive that is getting your attention. That is Plum Japonaise for me. I smelled the opening and almost said 'nope', but them my brain caught on and I went back to smell again quickly. It's a really good scent.

    3) Shanghai Lily - Stunningly great fragrance. It's among 3 contending fragrances vying for my purchase of a 'Lily'-centered scent. I'm torn 3-ways but can only buy one Lily fragrance. I cannot decide between Serge Lutens "Un Lys", Roja Dove "Lily" and Tom Ford's "Shanghai Lily". Each are so strong with Lily as a central note that buying more than one of these would be redundant. So, I have to pick one. So far, after 4 months I still can't decide or pick. I have small sample decants of each that I will wear until they are gone and then decide.

    4) Tom Ford for men - This one I own, but I never reach for. I like smelling it off the test strip for moments, but apparently I don't like long-term exposure to this scent. I'm thinking of selling off the bottle. It's a good scent though.

    5) Black Orchid - It's not my taste as it is a gourmand, but I recognize that it is very, very good. I respect it and if you like gourmands you should evaluate it. There is a real good chance you'll love it.

    6) Tuscan Leather - I'm not into leather scents, but this is high quality. IMO, it's no arguable that it's one of the top-3 leather scents in all of fragrance. If you love leather and you own many leather scents, IMO, this is a must-own or you don't have a nose and should sell your fragrances because you don't get fragrance.

    7) Vert Boheme - I've toyed around with the idea of buying. It is slightly feminine-leaning. Very nice. Another orange and white flowers with a floral push. Pleasant and high quality, but I just don't think I would reach for it often and at that price, I just can't.

    That's about all I have a high opinion of from Tom Ford. Yeah, some people like Grey Vetiver or Cafe Rose. I say 'pass'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vpi98 View Post
    I've never sampled any Tom Ford fragrances, but it looks like they have many well regarded and reviewed lines. What are some of your favorites? Also what's the deal with all of these special ones that have come out this year? Seems like a whole bunch.

    An older one that had been reviewed a lot and liked was the Tom Ford Extreme from about 2009.

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    First question I'd ask is: what do you personally like? In terms of notes, fragrances you have at the moment etc. You're likely to get just about every fragrance mentioned as a favourite depending on who you ask, and although there is some consensus in terms of the very best (Amber Absolute), and the very worst (hmmm...maybe Fucking Fabulous?), for the most part they're all good fragrances that will appeal to you/or not depending on your preferences.

    The question about the number of specials is an interesting one. It's already been answered, but a 'deeper' answer is that they've done two kind of 'special' releases. I presume you mean the reserve collection, which is bringing back a limited number of previously discontinued fragrances in 50ml bottles for 50% more than the other 50ml bottles they sell. They all have similar dark bottles with gold plaques. The other 'special' releases are ones with metal plaques but not always in gold, similar to the reserve collection, but are flankers to existing perfumes - like Tobacco Oud Intense is a flanker of Tobacco Oud, and Neroli Portofino Forte is a flanker of Neroli Portofino etc. Again, these cost more money than the originals...although most people are struggling to understand why. Apparently they, too, are limited releases...but we'll wait and see with that.

    As mentioned, there is a difference between the Private Blend (all with a similar apothecary-style bottle, in dark brown, blues, greens etc. depending on the scent) and the 'regular' signature fragrances (they come in the corrugated bottles for the most part, but newer bottle designs are being made as well, like the monolith-style bottle for Noir and its various flankers). The most obvious difference is price but also the fact that the signature line is probably more mass appealing and a 'better' buy for the man/woman on the street - but not always. In my opinion, they are flooding the Private Blend line with too many releases, and too many disparate, not-quite-finished ideas, when they could be focusing on a few more solid signature line releases.

    I do not like Tom Ford Extreme. To me, it smells like boozy aniseed. It's not an 'easy' scent in the slightest and can see why it has such a limited number in circulation. This is one where, if you ask 100 people out on the street which they prefer between TF For Men and TF For Men Extreme, the majority will opt for the former, but the fragrance community will appreciate the 'challenging' elements of the latter. Grey Vetiver is the safest male release.

    I wrote more about my thoughts on the brand in a thread just further down this page, called top 5 TF fragrances or something like that if, for whatever reason, you're interested in what I think about the brand and my personal favourites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot Crusader View Post
    My hot take on Tom Ford is this: Slightly-overpriced main line that reworks, combines, or updates classic scents or his own past efforts for houses he no longer works for, and an extremely-overpriced line of niche scents with double the performance which represnt all the stuff that didn't make the cut for the main line by being underdeveloped or too risky.

    He repackages a lot of styles from discontinued fragrances stretching back decades as luxury tier niche items in his Private Collection but in a very linear front-loaded manner, plus recently the occasional cynical release like Fucking Fabulous, Lost Cherry, and Lavender Extrême, although a few gems exist in the lineup.

    Tom Ford Signature/standard lines feel more complex, developed, rounded, and complete even though they are ironically cheaper than the Private Collection. The Signature Line is the stuff I think he's actually proud of, and the most-loved scents come from it, while his niche-tier is mostly just taking the piss.

    All in all, Tom Ford is a house of tributes to perfume's past, just redressed with modern aromachemicals, and a lot of inconsistencies both in composition, performance, and price. The only things remotely modern in style are some of the Private Collection items, which again are overpriced and oftentimes too linear compared to competing products.

    You will need to do a LOT of testing to separate the wheat from chaff with Tom Ford, and sometimes a scent in the Private Collection that does well gets promoted to the less-expensive Signature line, like Ombre Leather.

    My faves:

    Signature:

    Black Orchid
    Grey Vetiver
    Noir
    Noir Anthracite

    Private Collection:

    Noir de Noir
    Cafe Rose
    Fougère d'Argent
    Beau de Jour
    This is a fair take.

    The Private Blend releases increasingly feel like rough drafts churned out to capitalize on demand.

    The Signature releases are generally much better-made.
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    Tom Ford is probably my second favorite line of fragrances behind Roja Parfums. The Private Blends are often perceived as flat, and this is true to a degree, but because they have excellent longevity, their development can afford to be far slower and it becomes harder to perceive. Its like trying to see a ship in the distance, there’s no movement but eventually you realise it has shifted across the horizon albeit a regular car would have long vanished.. Private Blends also dont have strong top notes like most fragrances. That addictive rush of citruses, spices and herbs don’t feature much if at all, and that can give a feeling of flatness. Its a tradeoff, those addictive topnotes need room to shine, and that means reduced strength for mid and basenotes. By reducing their (topnotes) role, the Private Blend line gains richness and longevity. IMO, the smell, quality, and performance are outstanding on his best releases. However, when you have a line as big as Tom Ford, there are bound to be misses.

    The Private Blend does have a number of unique (albeit they were later cloned) and outstanding offerings:

    - Tuscan Leather;
    - Oud Wood & Oud Wood Intense
    - Tobacco Vanille;
    - Tobacco Oud;
    - Noir de Noir (embellishes the well worn path of the rose patch accord)

    Then the Private Blend line also offers the modernised classic styles that are often criticised for lacking finesse but to me they still smell great and perform excellent;

    - Italian Cypress (Polo, Z-14)
    - Patchouli Absolu (Givenchy Gentleman and other patch fragrances)
    - Beau de Jour (somewhere between Rive Gauche and Zino);
    - Santal Blush (Samsara)
    - Amber Absolute (Ambre Sultan)

    The non-Private Blends are also outstanding and often very unique: , For Men, For Men Extreme, Grey Vetiver and Ombre Leather and Black Orchid all work excellent for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooks Otterlake View Post
    This is a fair take.

    The Private Blend releases increasingly feel like rough drafts churned out to capitalize on demand.

    The Signature releases are generally much better-made.
    Houses that redress more-sophisticated past mid-market styles as today's elite perfume options get under my skin because they enable today's mid-market perfumes to be extremely artificial, simplistic, and uncreative with the justification that "it costs more for the good stuff" when in reality they've just min/maxed their cost/profit scheme so much that they'd almost have to shill out A.I. perfume to get the margins they expect at the $100USD price point.

    Meanwhile most of us in the hobby know better (hence the annoyance) that plenty of the older stuff being aped is still made and houses exist which make really good and complex new perfume at the same prices or lower than the ambrox "Dude de Toilettes" being hucked at Macy's, causing the $300 bottles of PdM and TF that recreate old Cartier and Jacomo fragrances completely ridiculous comparatively.

    Granted, you get an experience that comes along which you can't find in vintage (like a Noir de Noir or Tuscan Leather) and that's when these prestige lines hit the nail on the head and get sales from folks in FragCommLand
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    IMO the glory days of TF are long gone so are their best offerings and the original releases in their best formulation.

    Moss Breches, Japon Noir, Amber Absolute, and Noir de Noir were some of TF's best works from the Private Blend line.
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    I love the house... and I also agree with most of what everyone else has said. Overpriced? Of course! Primarily linear scents? Indeed! Tacky naming schemes? Absolutely! Guilty of the "top-note-flurry" trick that loudly announce themselves and then dry down quickly to a shell of what had initially been promised? Yep, and unfortunately with more scents than they should- particularly in the overpriced PB line.

    Beside all of that I still love many TF fragrances. Some of my all-time favorite scents come from this house- Tobacco Oud Intense, Sahara Noir, Vert d'Encens, Oud Wood Intense, Amber Absolute, London, Oud Fleur, Ombre' Leather, Velvet Gardenia, TF Anthracite, TF Noir, TF for Men, Cafe' Rose, Black Orchid, Grey Vetiver... Some days big, bold and linear is exactly where I want to be and TF delivers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oud Dude View Post
    Some days big, bold and linear is exactly where I want to be and TF delivers.
    That pretty much sums it up for me

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    Tom Ford was my first introduction into niche houses. The Private Blend line has some very unique offerings. I currently own Tobacco Vanille and Tuscan Leather. I recommend them both. Most of the scents are linear, which means the scent doesn't change very much during the wear. I think that there is a good chance you can find at least one of the Private Blends that you enjoy. If you have a mall or a Nordstrom near you, go to the beauty department and sample, sample, sample!

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    Not a fan of this house due to all the reasons (mainly cost, linearity and 'shallowness') mentioned by previous posters. The scents, while well done, simply don't do it for me. Ombre Leather 18 is the only one I plan purchasing in the future.

    I also agree with tspencer that Plum Japonais is a very good scent, and could be a winner for winter depending on your tastes. But again, not something I would purchase, especially in this price bracket. Oud Wood Intense is also great if you're a fan of skanky, animalic scents, but not something I would personally wear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nastka View Post
    Ombre Leather 18 is the only one I plan purchasing in the future.
    I do think that Ombré Leather is an incredible scent. As good as anything TF has put his name to.
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    He's pretty bold and like most Houses, some work and some don't.

    Noir De Noir, Plum J, TV and London, Oud Wood, Santal Blush stand out for me and I could quite happily live on these 6 for a year.

    On the other hand, Tuscan Leather makes me feel nauseous

    Also, I think, like Montale, he is sacrificing quality for quantity recently

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    Many illuminating posts! This is what I love about Basenotes.

    Alas reformulation affects many brands of fragrance, not just Tom Ford’s. If you’re particular about quality you could dig around and find partial bottles if not decants the earlier formulations.

    Right now I’m eyeing a bottle of Beau du Jour, keeping in mind its shortcomings in drydown typical of most Tom Fords.
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    To balance out some of the negativity I've directed toward the TF brand, I'd like to say that while I think the Private Blend's quality has been steadily slipping, there are just so many Private Blend releases these days that it is easy to overlook some gems.

    There are a number of dismissed or not-at-all-discussed releases that I think would have greater followings if they'd been given more time to find some footing. But it's also hard to champion them as underdogs when they retail at such extraordinary prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooks Otterlake View Post
    There are a number of dismissed or not-at-all-discussed releases that I think would have greater followings if they'd been given more time to find some footing. But it's also hard to champion them as underdogs when they retail at such extraordinary prices.
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    Initially I wasn't a huge fan of Tom Ford fragrances. Not sure why. As I've gotten my nose on more and more of them, there are a lot that I really love. I own 12 TFPBs, the most from any single house in my collection (but I don't love them all, I even dislike some).

    My favorites from the house:

    Lost Cherry
    Italian Cypress
    Mandarino di Amalfi
    Tobacco Oud
    Plum Japonais

    Things I really like but don't love:
    Tobacco Vanille
    Oud Wood
    Soleil Blanc
    Santal Blush
    Noir de Noir
    Costa Azzurra

    There are plenty of others that I thought were meh, or awful, or somewhere in between, or that I just haven't smelled yet. Are they overpriced? Yes. Is every fragrance (a luxury commodity item) overpriced? Yes. Find what you like and go from there.




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