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    Hi all

    I'm thinking of picking up a bit and 'rubbing alcohol'has come up in my searches for perfumers alcohol.
    It's not the same thing right?

    If i was to delve deeper and look for the chemical name that should be present - what should I look for!?

    Thank you!
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    Rubbing alcohol is isopropyl alcohol, a.k.a. isopropanol. It stinks badly, and is completely unsuitable for perfume work. However, it's an effective solvent and costs approximately a penny for a gallon, so it's fantastic for cleaning your perfumery supplies.

    Perfumer's alcohol is just another name for ethyl alcohol, a.k.a. ethanol. Some places may sell "perfumer's alcohol" that's ethanol with other things added to it (like, theoretical fixatives to make fragrances last longer - I make no comment on whether they actually do anything). Some may sell "perfumer's alcohol" that's just straight-up pure ethanol, which often means that it's subject to alcohol taxes since it's technically drinkable ("191 proof grain spirits" is just 95.5% ethanol, after all), while others may sell "perfumer's alcohol" that's been denatured (made undrinkable) which exempts it from paying alcohol taxes (in this case, you specifically want to make sure it's SDA 40B - there are lots of ways to debature alcohol and many of them are not safe and/or odorless).

    Regardless of how it's marketed, you want ethanol, specifically and only. Not isopropanol, and never ever methanol.

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    Ourmess is completely correct above! ^

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    Quote Originally Posted by ourmess View Post
    Rubbing alcohol is isopropyl alcohol, a.k.a. isopropanol. It stinks badly, and is completely unsuitable for perfume work. However, it's an effective solvent and costs approximately a penny for a gallon, so it's fantastic for cleaning your perfumery supplies.

    Perfumer's alcohol is just another name for ethyl alcohol, a.k.a. ethanol. Some places may sell "perfumer's alcohol" that's ethanol with other things added to it (like, theoretical fixatives to make fragrances last longer - I make no comment on whether they actually do anything). Some may sell "perfumer's alcohol" that's just straight-up pure ethanol, which often means that it's subject to alcohol taxes since it's technically drinkable ("191 proof grain spirits" is just 95.5% ethanol, after all), while others may sell "perfumer's alcohol" that's been denatured (made undrinkable) which exempts it from paying alcohol taxes (in this case, you specifically want to make sure it's SDA 40B - there are lots of ways to debature alcohol and many of them are not safe and/or odorless).

    Regardless of how it's marketed, you want ethanol, specifically and only. Not isopropanol, and never ever methanol.
    Cheers appreciate the info!
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    Not all ethanol is the same.

    I bought some ethanol from a hardware store - called "bioflame."
    It claimed to be 100% ethanol, nothing BUT ethanol... STILL,
    It definitely had a weird off note to it.

    Bought some "perfumers alcohol" from P.A (perfumes apprentice)
    its nearly scentless....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattmeleg View Post
    I bought some ethanol from a hardware store - called "bioflame."
    It claimed to be 100% ethanol, nothing BUT ethanol... STILL,
    It definitely had a weird off note to it.
    I have no idea what the bottle says, but the Bioflame website says that it's ethanol denatured with isopropanol...so yeah, it's gonna smell.

    If you buy "pure ethanol" at retail anywhere other than a liquor store, it's going to be denatured - if it doesn't specifically say what it's denatured with, then stay away. The only options are either drinkable pure grain spirits or SDA 40B.

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    I think that the use of Bioflame has previously been debunked.

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    If you want more than 100ml try
    www.mistralni.co.uk
    They do 1litre for 18 or 5 for 32

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    How does 200 proof food-grade ethanol factor into the picture?
    I've used 95% non-denatured ethanol, but gave up on it because of a slight grainy-type after smell.
    The only thing I'll use now is perfumer's alcohol.

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    For the most part, Ethanol and perfumers alcohol, is grain alcohol.
    (Organic) Grape ethanol, smells sweet, and like grapes, a bit.
    If you are picking up grain odor from grain alcohol, I'm not sure what you can do about that odor, except cover it's odor with perfumery materials.

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    I like my perfumers alcohol because it has less scent.
    There's one other dilutant materials which is nearly scentless...it's got a long name, I have it at home

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    Hi Matt,

    What's the name of the product you bought from P.A.? I am looking for the same. Thanks!

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    I buy organic food-grade grain alcohol - ethanol - and I have not had any issues with it, unless I over-dilute. But that's my error, and not that of the grain alcohol.




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