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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    Thanks JoeV. References to ‘Kyara’ (kinam) certainly got my attention. Gotta test this. If Sheldrake’s back in, then yayyy!
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    Thanks for the rundown on the oud aroma chems at the different firms, runstile! Fascinating.
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    Besides de usual stores, does anymore already saw this one at a reduced price?
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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    Quote Originally Posted by etoile View Post
    Besides de usual stores, does anymore already saw this one at a reduced price?
    Thank you!
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    Thank you hednic

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    Quote Originally Posted by runstile View Post
    Two oud aroma chemicals are 2,4 Xylenol (medicinal phenolic) and 2,6 Xylenol (wet band aid). Most oud notes are not just one aroma chemical, they are bases from houses. Here's my opinion of the commercially available (not captive) oud bases:

    Givaudaun's Black Agar (soft and sweet), Firmenich Oud 10760 series (sort of the industry standard, vetiver/cypriol heavy), Pretty Oud (skanky castoreum band-aid, one of my faves), and IFF's Oud Oliffac (closest thing to natural oud I've smelled). Lutens could be using small amounts of natural oud with an oud base or the Xylenols.

    I really want to sniff this as I love AS.
    Thanks for the information on synthetic ouds. I mistakenly only knew of black agar and firmenich’s oud accord.
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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    I want to sample this one
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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    They are a little late to the party, but I'm interested in sampling.
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    I’ll blind buy this one, too.
    Like I did with Passé!

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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    I've sampled it at the Palais Royal store in Paris, on my skin. 100F seemed the right weather to go for that haha

    To my nose, this one is pretty simple. It opens with a beautiful and round oud, and after 15-20min, the oud disappears to leave the stage to a beautiful labdanum note. It will stay linear until the end.
    Obviously, it's an "improved" labdanum (it's not a soliflore), but still, this is the main player here that will take 80% of the olfactory attention. It reminded me of ELdO Attaquer le Soleil - Marquis de Sade. Performance was average on my skin, but again, it was very hot the day I tested it, so that may not be the best condition. To be honest, I expected more. Nice, but not groundbreaking imo.

    As for the name, the SA clarified:yes, it means devil's bed, but actually also devil's diaper, in reference to the first diaper of babies (black feces). A word play a little clumsy imo, a very sarcasm-prone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy the frenchy View Post
    I've sampled it at the Palais Royal store in Paris, on my skin. 100F seemed the right weather to go for that haha

    To my nose, this one is pretty simple. It opens with a beautiful and round oud, and after 15-20min, the oud disappears to leave the stage to a beautiful labdanum note. It will stay linear until the end.
    Obviously, it's an "improved" labdanum (it's not a soliflore), but still, this is the main player here that will take 80% of the olfactory attention. It reminded me of ELdO Attaquer le Soleil - Marquis de Sade. Performance was average on my skin, but again, it was very hot the day I tested it, so that may not be the best condition. To be honest, I expected more. Nice, but not groundbreaking imo.

    As for the name, the SA clarified:yes, it means devil's bed, but actually also devil's diaper, in reference to the first diaper of babies (black feces). A word play a little clumsy imo, a very sarcasm-prone.
    Does it reminds you of the older Lutens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by etoile View Post
    Does it reminds you of the older Lutens?
    Yes, but designed with an opposite evolution. Instead of starting soft and getting warmer and louder, here it starts warms and round (never loud though) and morph into a "softer round".
    A little too simple and soft imo, thus overall, no it's not really on the same shelf with MKK, Fumerie Turque, Filles en Aiguilles or Chergui... If I want an oud fragrance, I'll go to see Montale, Amouage or even the beautiful HdP black series. If I want a labdanum fragrance, I'd rather go for ELdO Attaquer le Soleil, which is overall very similar to the base of La Couche du Diable.

    Unless you already have all the other Lutens fragrance, go for it, but if not, sample it first, as there are more interesting Lutens fragrances to explore before that one. Like for example Bapteme du Feu, that I (re)discovered duting my visit at the store, and on which I may pull the trigger soon. (but that's out-of-topic).

    Sorry to be a little bit a downer, but I'd rather people get a pleasant surprise, instead of a huge diappointment, like it occurs often with hyped fragrances. Still, a good fragrance that some may love. Just a like for me, and not in the top of my shopping list.

    Hope it helps (even if I think I confused you even more ahah)

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    Although a nice scent, it is a little too "simple" for me. I had a full wear of this yesterday, and the main things i got off my skin were a leather accord that reminded me of Floris Leather Oud. The cistus/labdanum in the Serge gives it a rougher edge, but it just wasn't unique or complex enough for me to want a bottle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melbourne Man View Post
    Although a nice scent, it is a little too "simple" for me. I had a full wear of this yesterday, and the main things i got off my skin were a leather accord that reminded me of Floris Leather Oud. The cistus/labdanum in the Serge gives it a rougher edge, but it just wasn't unique or complex enough for me to want a bottle.
    Exactly my thoughts.

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    Does anyone knows a place from where I can get a sample/decant of this? That ships to Europe?
    I was ready to pull the blind buy trigger but I’m having second thoughts!
    Or if someone have an extra sample I could buy it.

    Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by etoile View Post
    Does anyone knows a place from where I can get a sample/decant of this? That ships to Europe?
    I was ready to pull the blind buy trigger but I’m having second thoughts!
    Or if someone have an extra sample I could buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post
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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    Did anyone ever try this? I'd love to know if it's any good!
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    I’m still deciding if I buy this one!

    hednic, how does it compares to Passé?
    Is it strong like Passé or more soft?
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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    I know Luckyscent has this now. I will be in NYC in November, and I plan on going to Scent Bar which is opening there soon. If they have this in store I will smell it then.
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    Thank you mike

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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    Quote Originally Posted by etoile View Post
    Thank you mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by etoile View Post
    I’m still deciding if I buy this one!

    hednic, how does it compares to Passé?
    Is it strong like Passé or more soft?
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    Speaking for myself, I don't know Passé but I find La couche du diable reasonably strong. I don't think many people would want it to be much louder. In terms of longevity, I can't really say for sure as I have only worn it twice (and the fist time was just a quick fist impression thing in the late evening) but I think it's not an issue either. The fragance itself is ok for me but not a "must have" at all.

    The first time around, it strongly reminded me of the Sheldrakeian "fruit stew"-trademark thing, the second time around I smelled different elements too. Among all the Lutens, I've smelled so far, it ranks somwhere in the middle, I guess. Without the fruit stew-sweetness and what I think is some Ambroxan-derivate amplifying things from the background, it could have placed itself significantly higher.

    Disclaimer: I was never a fan of Arabie and Ambre Sultan, which, I feel, are vaguely related to LCDD ("the one whose name shall not be named again because it's so very long").
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    Hello Nasenmann!
    Thank you for sharing with us your thoughts about Diable!

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    Well, I’m going to Paris in the second week of October!
    Ill sample it and give you my report
    Any other suggestion from you to me?
    Thank you

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    Finally tried this...does anyone else notice a similarity to Gucci Guilty Oud?

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    Quote Originally Posted by etoile View Post
    Well, I’m going to Paris in the second week of October!
    Ill sample it and give you my report
    Any other suggestion from you to me?
    Thank you
    Not really. These days, most everything you want, you can get online too. Just try whatever is there and seems interesting to you.
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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    I was very eager to try this scent but thought my local shop would not bring it in. Probably too over the top for them. I grew impatient waiting and broke down... went to Luckyscent to do a blind buy Thursday and they were on back order for an estimated 14 days. As luck would have it the next morning the local shop came up on line with stock. Off I went for testing and a sample. A very big bold opening and a quick fade to nothing. Within the hour this is a skin scent, as in touch your nose to where you applied it... Two hours in and it is all but undetectable. Olfactory fatigue not. Brought in fresh noses and they had the same detection issue I had. THANK YOU Luckyscent for selling out! LCdD is sample first, no where near blind buy safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by U2u View Post
    I was very eager to try this scent but thought my local shop would not bring it in. Probably too over the top for them. I grew impatient waiting and broke down... went to Luckyscent to do a blind buy Thursday and they were on back order for an estimated 14 days. As luck would have it the next morning the local shop came up on line with stock. Off I went for testing and a sample. A very big bold opening and a quick fade to nothing. Within the hour this is a skin scent, as in touch your nose to where you applied it... Two hours in and it is all but undetectable. Olfactory fatigue not. Brought in fresh noses and they had the same detection issue I had. THANK YOU Luckyscent for selling out! LCdD is sample first, no where near blind buy safe.
    Most certainly not the case with my decant. I does open very loud and quickly settles a bit but it's neither anywhere near skin scent territory nor is it gone after such a short time.
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