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    Default La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    Sounds interesting.

    La Couche du diable
    Serge Lutens finally launched an oud perfume.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/ByqCS6-I...d=17bwr3tgwpln
    ・・・
    @sergelutens launches an oud, La Couche du diable... More about the sweet smoke, with cistus and rose. Powdery and deep.

    6CBC7665-0335-4560-BA19-6A3B7BA2FEAA.jpg
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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    Serge Lutens is finally on the oud wagon. LOL. Color me interested.
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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    Thanks for the info.
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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    Serge Lutens has been missing the trail for years now. Comment from L.T. on l'Orpheline (2014): If Serge Lutens doesn't care anymore, why the hell should we?
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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    Given Lutens' fascination with North African / Middle Eastern cultures and scents, this could be an interesting take on oud.

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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    Could be interesting. I'll definitely try to get my nose on this one.

    The name, though. The Devil's Nappy (Diaper)??

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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    Definitely not my "nappy" but I'll try it.
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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    Interesting!
    If it’s in the same vein of last’s year Passé...
    Ill give it a try.
    If someone try it meanwhile, please give us some feedback.
    Thanks.

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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    Quote Originally Posted by saminlondon View Post
    Could be interesting. I'll definitely try to get my nose on this one.

    The name, though. The Devil's Nappy (Diaper)??
    Devil's Bed

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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    Quote Originally Posted by mgrigoriev View Post
    Devil's Bed
    Yes, but it also happens to mean The Devil's Nappy.

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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    Quote Originally Posted by saminlondon View Post
    Yes, but it also happens to mean The Devil's Nappy.
    I wonder if he took notes from Tom Ford's book?
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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    thank you but, no thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragrant Vagrant View Post
    I wonder if he took notes from Tom Ford's book?
    The names just got more and more complicated while juices became less and less interesting. I stopped at Cracheuse De Flammes for 400 USD (Come On)

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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    Learning something new (about French that is). In Italian, the corresponding word means not bed, but sleeping place for animals (and it doesn't mean nappy).

    Also, in French coucher avec means have sex with (in fact,a google search brings up a song called j'ai couche avec le diable)

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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    Quote Originally Posted by cacio View Post
    Learning something new (about French that is). In Italian, the corresponding word means not bed, but sleeping place for animals (and it doesn't mean nappy).

    Also, in French coucher avec means have sex with (in fact,a google search brings up a song called j'ai couche avec le diable)


    "Lady Marmalade" by LaBelle pretty much introduced the phrase to the rest of the world. Voulez-vous coucher avec moi (ce soir)? Do you want to sleep with me (tonight)?

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    I vaguely recall a boy in our middle school French class (perhaps me), innocently raising his hand to ask the young French teacher, perhaps in her first year of teaching, what the phrase meant, knowing full well exactly what it meant, as other boys burst out laughing and the teacher turned beet red and fled the classroom. Detention with the principal ensued, of course.
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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    Thanks for the info. Sounds uninspired, lol. Will give it a try.
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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    For those wondering about the french use of couche... it's diaper. Were it to be for napping or a bed, it would be le couché, which even then would sound weird, with better use of the term being le sommeil​.

    As for the scent:

    cistus... yea
    another rose-oud...nay

    I must also concur with others here that SL has passed its prime.
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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    Finally !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arij View Post
    For those wondering about the french use of couche... it's diaper. Were it to be for napping or a bed, it would be le couché, which even then would sound weird, with better use of the term being le sommeil​.
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    FYI I think Nappy is British English for diaper. Hence some of the confusion up above

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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    I hope that it’s potent like Passé!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arij View Post
    For those wondering about the french use of couche... it's diaper. Were it to be for napping or a bed, it would be le couché, which even then would sound weird, with better use of the term being le sommeil​.

    As for the scent:

    cistus... yea
    another rose-oud...nay

    I must also concur with others here that SL has passed its prime.
    "la couche" can indeed mean "diaper", but it's also an old word that means "bed". Devil's bed makes more sense than Devil's diaper in my opinion.
    (Le couche' is the act of going to bed).

    Personnally I think some recent releases were quite interesting, and creative, unlike some other houses which just keep repeating themselves.

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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    Quote Originally Posted by Wit_Siamese View Post
    Sounds interesting.

    La Couche du diable
    Serge Lutens finally launched an oud perfume.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/ByqCS6-I...d=17bwr3tgwpln
    ・・・
    @sergelutens launches an oud, La Couche du diable... More about the sweet smoke, with cistus and rose. Powdery and deep.

    6CBC7665-0335-4560-BA19-6A3B7BA2FEAA.jpg

    And it seems to be in the regular collection (that means at less than $100 in a year at discounters... yeah!!

    https://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/...ble-55547.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauerkraut View Post
    Serge Lutens has been missing the trail for years now. Comment from L.T. on l'Orpheline (2014): If Serge Lutens doesn't care anymore, why the hell should we?
    That's your personal opinion. I care for recent Lutens releases, and love L'Orpheline.

    What I still haven't understood though, it's why people care for Turin's opinions. But that's a discussion I'd rather not reopen.

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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    Can we talk more about the perfume itself and less about it’s name?
    Bas de Soie is also a strange name and the perfume is wonderful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etoile View Post
    Can we talk more about the perfume itself and less about it’s name?
    Bas de Soie is also a strange name and the perfume is wonderful.
    Until we test it, that may be difficult.
    But I understand from your comment that you have tested it. What are your thoughts on this one?

    I haven't had the chance to test Bas de Soie (Silk Stockings), but I've heard it's a great one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy the frenchy View Post
    Until we test it, that may be difficult.
    But I understand from your comment that you have tested it. What are your thoughts on this one?

    I haven't had the chance to test Bas de Soie (Silk Stockings), but I've heard it's a great one.
    Hello Andy!

    No, I hadn’t tested it yet. And I’m not expecting to try it soon.
    Here in Portugal we don’t have Serge Lutens.
    Or I make a blind buy or go to some country that sells it.

    At this point we aren’t talking about the name itself.
    We are talking about the translation of it to English.

    Yes, you/we are free to talk about what you/we want here.
    Thats good.

    Sorry, but I was expecting to being talking about the notes and what we expect that it will be.
    Thats just it.

    You are from France.
    Please, go test it and tell me

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    So what do we think is responsible for the drop in Lutens quality? The parting with Sheldrake?

    (I, by the way, LOVE Lutens and thoroughly enjoyed his weird baby teeth scent, so I’m not totally sold that it’s all down hill from here — though almost nothing touches golden era Lutens for me).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proust_Madeleine View Post
    So what do we think is responsible for the drop in Lutens quality? The parting with Sheldrake?

    (I, by the way, LOVE Lutens and thoroughly enjoyed his weird baby teeth scent, so I’m not totally sold that it’s all down hill from here — though almost nothing touches golden era Lutens for me).
    Did they really split up?
    At this point I got so much mixed information that I really don’t know.
    About the quality, to me it’s Shiseido that behind it.
    They are really milking the Lutens cow.

    The baby teeth it’s ok for me.
    I would wear it if it was a gift. Not a purchase for me.
    The last, Passé, that hit me hard really.
    I bought a 100ml bottle and later another 100ml for backup.

    Im expecting to Diable to be another bomb.
    I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etoile View Post
    Hello Andy!

    No, I hadn’t tested it yet. And I’m not expecting to try it soon.
    Here in Portugal we don’t have Serge Lutens.
    Or I make a blind buy or go to some country that sells it.

    At this point we aren’t talking about the name itself.
    We are talking about the translation of it to English.

    Yes, you/we are free to talk about what you/we want here.
    Thats good.

    Sorry, but I was expecting to being talking about the notes and what we expect that it will be.
    Thats just it.

    You are from France.
    Please, go test it and tell me
    Haha I will! For now I m in the US, it hasn't arrived yet, but I will be in Paris next month... so...
    As of now, the only notes we know of is Oud and Labdanum. Obviously, there's for sure much more in it, but he never discloses them. Let's be patient...

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    Default Re: La Couche du diable by Serge Lutens : Oud

    Quote Originally Posted by Proust_Madeleine View Post
    So what do we think is responsible for the drop in Lutens quality? The parting with Sheldrake?
    Change of direction, there's no doubt, but drop in quality I disagree. I love the old loud bulldozers, and also think that most recent ones (l'orpheline, la religieuse and some the Eau series) are very interesting if we listen to them carefully. For sure, these are more on the intimate side, not making a statement.




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