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    Default 6 Months on Basenotes and living a fragrant life. 10 bullet points of things I have learned so far.

    Hello all,

    I have been into fragrances a little over six months now and I thought I would toss out some things I have learned on my journey thus far. Pl;ease feel free to chime in with your thoughts. These will be brief bullet point types of things to keep this from becoming my usual wall of text.

    1. The sense of smell is so subjective that you really do have to try things for yourself. Like several others, I have bought into hype trains to be left wondering why all the hoopla.

    2. To go along with point 1; A single fragrance can smell like a different fragrance altogether depending on who is wearing it (skin chemistry). It can also smell different on paper vs skin, or even (seemingly) smell different depending on the day/weather/mood/etc. I have been very much surprised by this phenomenon more times than I can count.

    3. Your taste can change very rapidly. Much faster than I initially believed, to be honest. I have went back to revisit some fragrances I bought very early on and I now find them to be very chemical smelling, even if I still find them to be pleasant overall. Synthetic smells are beginning to stick out a little bit to my nose, where at first I could not notice it very well. Along these same lines, you discover what notes you're more apt to enjoy. I find myself drawn to patchouli, oud, rose, and incense. Even though I don't currently own a lot of fragrances with those notes, they are the ones I rank very high.

    4. Bottles seem to last longer than I expected, and I am an over sprayer. I do 10 sprays of my SOTD and have yet to empty a bottle. However, I attribute most of this to finally having a large enough rotation to keep from using the same scent frequently.

    5. I use a different fragrance every day. This is something I would never have considered before. I used to think most people only had 1-3 bottles that they just used until drained. Now, I sincerely feel I would get easily bored doing that. More power to those that do keep a minimalist fragrance wardrobe, however.

    6. Everything has been reformulated. 'Nuff said.

    7. I feel the more I learn and discover, that the parade of fragrances I want to try/own keeps growing and growing. I will be reading here or watching YT, and someone will talk about a fragrance that sounds interesting, and I will want to try it. Perhaps this could be a personal problem, and I am just too easily influenced.

    8. Some fragrances I own are for personal enjoyment only, and I can't really imagine wearing them to work, or in public at all, lest I come off as offensive smelling. A lot of oud fragrances fall under this category IMO. Things that are on the opposite end of the "mass appealing mall scent" spectrum. Some may refer to these as "challenging" fragrances. I'm quite ok with this, and feel drawn to them out of curiosity.

    9. Fragrance truly can be an art form. This point kind of ties in with point 8. Although I make fun of it mercilessly, I cannot deny that Secretions Magnifique is something to behold. Sincerely, I wish I could get along with this one, but it literally makes me start dry heaving upon smelling it. I think it's the strong metallic/blood note that does it. Remove that note, and it may not be nauseating. On the other end, I find myself quite enjoying things like By the Fireplace, Fahrenheit, Interlude, Rein Intense Incense (I really wish I could find a full bottle of this), Oud Maximus, Ten (and Ten Golden Edition), Lui, Grand Soir, Oudh Infini, etc.

    10. Wear what you like. It doesn't matter if it's $10 or $1000. Most people that you come into contact with on a daily basis simply do not care about what you're wearing. They don't know how much it cost, weather it's designer or niche, if it's synthetic or all natural, if it's vintage or reformulated, what batch it is, etc. In fact, they probably won't care if you're wearing fragrance to begin with. All of this geek level stuff is left to us enthusiasts.

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    Default Re: 6 Months on Basenotes and living a fragrant life. 10 bullet points of things I have learned so f

    The following four points you make especially ring true with me:


    The sense of smell is so subjective that you really do have to try things for yourself.

    I use a different fragrance every day.

    I feel the more I learn and discover, that the parade of fragrances I want to try/own keeps growing and growing.

    Wear what you like. It doesn't matter if it's $10 or $1000. Most people that you come into contact with on a daily basis simply do not car about what you're wearing. They don't know how much it cost, weather it's designer or niche, if it's synthetic or all natural, if it's vintage or reformulated, what batch it is, etc. In fact, they probably won't care if you're wearing fragrance to begin with.

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    Some very good conclusions to reach after just 6 months in the game.
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    Default Re: 6 Months on Basenotes and living a fragrant life. 10 bullet points of things I have learned so f

    Thanks for sharing. That is some very good points you have.

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    I've also been into fragrances for a little over 6 months now, joined here in December last year. I agree with most of your points and have also learned some of them during my fragrance journey so far.

    My fragrance tastes haven't changed much though, I feel like its been more of figuring out what I enjoy rather than the tastes themselves changing. I still like a lot of what I liked when I first started.

    I however have not found that many fragrances to have a solid rotation yet. Of all the samples I've tried, I've only purchased more samples of and eventually a full bottle of Invictus.

    I still have a lot of stuff to try out and I'll see if they make it into my collection. I like to plan out what I'm going to try before going to the mall or whatever so this website & others are great at giving updates on the newest fragrances or older gems to keep me hyped to try.

    Anyways, nice write up.

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    Default Re: 6 Months on Basenotes and living a fragrant life. 10 bullet points of things I have learned so f

    Quote Originally Posted by morrison74 View Post
    Some very good conclusions to reach after just 6 months in the game.
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    Thanks for sharing. That is some very good points you have.
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    Default Re: 6 Months on Basenotes and living a fragrant life. 10 bullet points of things I have learned so f

    Great points!
    1 and 7 ring especially true with me.

    I have also been into this for the same amount of time and that's why your observations always resonate with me, though I think you have already went more further and deeper into this hobby than me - I mean this as a compliment (though I understand this is not a competition and I'm happy with my own slower pace). I haven't searched for vintages yet and been content with current formulations so far - though I would definitely love to try the old versions of such fragrances as Opium, Habanita or Shalimar some day. But there are so many interesting and untried things in current market and formulations still.

    I have made some additional observations that are similar to yours, but maybe they can complement them:

    1b. I see that I really have to try everything for myself not only because I'll see the fragrances differently than other people (someone else's "too sweet" might be "not sweet at all" or vice versa to me), but also because what I imagine looking at the notes might be completely different in reality. There have been instances where I do like the list of the notes, but the final fragrance is not appealing to me (I really expected to love Laura Bagiotti's Roma, CK Obsession, Chanel Coco and Serge Lutens 5 o'clock au gingembre, but definitely didn't.) and instances where the fragrance smells divine when sprayed on paper but turns into a cloying mess on my skin (Serge Lutens' Datura Noir, I'm looking at you!).

    2b. Sometimes the same fragrance on the same person can behave very differently on different day and different weather conditions. Quite a simple fragrance - Terre de Lumiere by L'Occitane - is always showing different facets on different days; sometimes the bergamot comes first to freshen up the day, sometimes the pink pepper spices things up, and some days it just drips sweet honey on me. Opium might be all smoke some days and resinous sweetness on others, the cinnamon might lead everything or be somewhere in the background...and so on and so on. I have tried Moschino's Cheap & Chic I Love Love 4 times in different stores and each time it was different in sillage, longevity and the scent itself varied between sweet oranges, fresh oranges, orange ice cream and soft hand cream scent. Such things just don't stop to amaze me.

    11. There is a fine line where different goals you might have clashes - you might want to have a versatile wardrobe, but you might not want to clutter all your bathroom/bedroom table/wardrobe/room/house with bottles. You might want to buy several cheaper fragrances (or travel sizes) in a shorter amount of time just to have more options, but then you see that this way you don't buy the maybe pricier bottle of a scent you really love and might end up with a wardrobe of scents you merely like instead of a smaller one of truly loved ones. There might be impulse buys that you regret later or things you really want but always delay buying until it becomes unavailable – or unavailable at better prices. Now I think it is smart to rationalize your spending, especially if you're on a budget, try fragrances on your own skin several times before buying (if it's available to try), because second impression sometimes can be very different from the first one, and if you truly love something and feel it is "you" - go for it.
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    Default Re: 6 Months on Basenotes and living a fragrant life. 10 bullet points of things I have learned so f

    Quote Originally Posted by morrison74 View Post
    Some very good conclusions to reach after just 6 months in the game.
    Yes, indeed! You've saved yourself lots of money by getting the gist of things so quickly.

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    Great post, thank you for sharing.

    Admiring the many considerate insights, especially the ones about fragrance taste subjectiveness/changes skin chemistry, reformulations, fragrance as art form, the personal enjoyment factor, minimalism and/or expansion of wardrobes. And perhaps as important as all the other good points made, the degree of enjoyment and enthusiasm within any cost bracket and thus the contentment and enjoyment reached with fragrances valued at any price points.

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    Thanks for sharing your thoughts - I've been getting into fragrances seriously for about the same amount of time, and have come to some of the same conclusions. Building a collection has been fun, and I like the variety, but the most pleasant unexpected surprise has been the fact that having ~25 bottles means I can't make a dent in any particular one. That's definitely a benefit of expanding my collection that I hadn't expected.

    I would say for me the biggest thing has been just learning how and where to buy fragrances. I've always liked fragrances, which usually meant going to the mall or department store and buying a bottle of something nice and not too expensive - A&F Fierce, D&G Light Blue, D&G The One, etc. But as I started to look online more, I realized that I could buy things like testers, or samples/decants. Whereas before I basically relegated myself to the $100-and-below section at Sephora, now thanks to Basenotes and other sites, I've gotten samples and decants of fragrances that, for financial or logistical reasons, I never would have experienced otherwise. Plus, finding niche and boutique perfume houses like Rogue, Sixteen92 and others, that I never would have found in the mall.
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    I also think it is worth remembering that there are all sorts of personalities and ages behind online reviews and comments. You could find 10 different people who've written what they think of a fragrance and if you saw them or met them in real life you might instantly dismiss their opinions or completely disagree with them if you were stood next to them trying the same fragrance. Because you can't tell over the internet, only reading their words, you can find yourself drawn in by something written about a fragrance in a certain way because the articulation connects with you, but that very comment may be written by a person who actually doesn't have the same taste as you.

    We don't all like the same thing, and many people are drawn by brands and once they subconsciously or consciously decide a house is a 'favourite' then all sorts of biases come into play. They often become more open minded towards certain houses whilst not offering the same tolerance to other brands.

    The best way to try fragrances would be without knowing the brand, the bottle, the reputation, any of it, just trying from a plain bottle. Impossible in most instances but you'd then find many peoples' favourite lists look incredibly different. Some people find it much easier to remove biases than others, and many can't really attempt to do it well at all, the very reason stylistic and aspirational marketing works.

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    Great post,
    I'd like to add two more points:
    - DON'T BLIND BUY
    I know you expressed this more or less, but I felt a need to specifically point it out
    - This hobby is quite expensive!

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    Spot on!

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    For me your points 9 and 10 are where it's at.

    This hobby---not to sound pretentious---but it is a tribute to a form of artistic expression. And, it's a journey of discovery. And an exploration of one of your major senses. It's just very damn interesting. Nice post klown.

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    9. Fragrance truly can be an art form...

    10. Wear what you like. It doesn't matter if it's $10 or $1000..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Krycek View Post
    For me your points 9 and 10 are where it's at.

    This hobby---not to sound pretentious---but it is a tribute to a form of artistic expression. And, it's a journey of discovery. And an exploration of one of your major senses. It's just very damn interesting...
    Precisely! Which is why a lot of my other hobbies have now fallen by the wayside... they just don't capture my interest the same.
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    I've been a fragrance lover my whole life, but since I've been at Basenotes, I've:
    1. Learned a lot about vintage and reformulations.
    2. Gained much more knowledge about the niche houses.
    3. Spent way too much money.
    4. Have increased my collection from 15 to around 30, possibly more. Lost count.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny Mitchell View Post
    I've been a fragrance lover my whole life, but since I've been at Basenotes, I've:
    1. Learned a lot about vintage and reformulations.
    2. Gained much more knowledge about the niche houses.
    3. Spent way too much money.
    4. Have increased my collection... Lost count.
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    I want to also point to two more things that’s been touched on, and that I feel is important for people new the hobby to keep in mind:

    - You actually can blind buy. However, remember that blind buying is gambling (of sorts) and should be treated as such. Meaning, never bet more than you’re willing to lose. Understand that anything you purchase could turn out to be something you don’t like, or even hate. Also realize that any vintages you seek could’ve been improperly stored and have spoiled. With a blind buy, make sure to keep the price at a level that you’d be ok tossing the fragrance in the trash if need be. Don’t assume that you’ll be able to swap or sale something, even if it’s likely.

    - This goes in hand with the OP’s first point... If I’ve said it once, I’ve said it a thousand times. Trust YOUR nose, cause it’s been communicating with YOUR brain for your entire life. Don’t assume that just because someone has a larger wardrobe than you, or more posts than you, that it will equal them being right and you being wrong. You like what you like and don’t what you don’t. Tastes can be similar, sometimes eerily similar, but they’ll never be the exact same. If you find someone with similar tastes, that can direct you to things that give you a higher probability of liking. But in the end, it comes down to your perception of what you’re smelling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diddy View Post
    DITTO


    I want to also point to two more things that’s been touched on, and that I feel is important for people new the hobby to keep in mind:

    - You actually can blind buy. However, remember that blind buying is gambling (of sorts) and should be treated as such. Meaning, never bet more than you’re willing to lose. Understand that anything you purchase could turn out to be something you don’t like, or even hate. Also realize that any vintages you seek could’ve been improperly stored and have spoiled. With a blind buy, make sure to keep the price at a level that you’d be ok tossing the fragrance in the trash if need be. Don’t assume that you’ll be able to swap or sale something, even if it’s likely.
    Yep to all of this.

    I'll add that if you're gonna blind-buy, do your research first. Don't buy based on hype but based on what seems to go along with your tastes. Read a lot of reviews and pick up common themes. Look at what folks have said about the fragrance in older Basenotes threads. Buy smaller bottles if available; the big size will still be there if it turns out to be a winner and you want more of it. In most cases, 1 oz of a fragrance is more than enough.

    Some blind purchases have turned out broadly for me and others didn't. I haven't had any outright disasters, though. Just stuff I was mixed on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooks Otterlake View Post
    Yep to all of this.

    I'll add that if you're gonna blind-buy, do your research first. Don't buy based on hype but based on what seems to go along with your tastes. Read a lot of reviews and pick up common themes. Look at what folks have said about the fragrance in older Basenotes threads. Buy smaller bottles if available; the big size will still be there if it turns out to be a winner and you want more of it. In most cases, 1 oz of a fragrance is more than enough.

    Some blind purchases have turned out broadly for me and others didn't. I haven't had any outright disasters, though. Just stuff I was mixed on.
    I know this may be frowned upon, but I return things like a mofo. If I don't like it, I send it back. Opened or not, I never get turned away or turned down. So you can always do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny Mitchell View Post
    I know this may be frowned upon, but I return things like a mofo. If I don't like it, I send it back. Opened or not, I never get turned away or turned down. So you can always do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooks Otterlake View Post
    Not if you got it on eBay!
    My bad. I need to elaborate that if you didn't buy it online but from a retail 'brick and mortar'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by painted_klown View Post
    7. I feel the more I learn and discover, that the parade of fragrances I want to try/own keeps growing and growing. I will be reading here or watching YT, and someone will talk about a fragrance that sounds interesting, and I will want to try it. Perhaps this could be a personal problem, and I am just too easily influenced.
    As I'm about five years into this now, I'll concentrate on just this one point.

    While it's true that the number of fragrances one wants to try keeps growing, I've found that the number of full bottles that I actually want to own is decreasing sharply. For instance, if I'd kept at my early level of buying I'd probably own several hundred bottles by now, most of which would be gathering dust on a shelf somewhere, or be squirrelled away in drawers or boxes, of no use to anyone. Somewhere after a year or two, I got a bit more discerning, slowed down on the impulse buys, the blind buys, and so forth. And eventually stopped buying things I merely liked or found pleasant or agreeable. And I disagree with those that say you shouldn't blind buy. Just be aware that it's gambling and keep it in moderation.

    Presently, I could see a time where a minimal collection of say 12-20 bottles of stuff that I absolutely adored would be the desired goal, rather than some bloated collection of hundreds of bottles that look more like a museum exhibit. Oscar Wilde said

    Moderation is a fatal thing. Nothing succeeds like excess.

    ...but he also said

    Nothing is good in moderation. You cannot know good in anything until you have torn the heart out of it by excess.

    Which I come to think of in relation to this topic as everyone's path is different, and for some, a larger collection is eminently preferable to a smaller one. Choose your own path.

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    I also feel the opposite of 7 is true, that the longer you are active in fragrance, the harder it is to smell something groundbreakingly "new"
    I remember the first time I smelled a harsh leather scent, and now I barely raise an eyebrow. It's so hard to smell something truly and utterly new
    But once you get locked into a serious perfume collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post
    Spot on!

    It took me longer than 6 months to figure them though...
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    I've been at this for maybe 8 months now. And I have a large collection. My tastes were discovered over a few months.

    I know that I prefer mostly natural perfumes, not entirely natural, and not always, but a high percentage of high quality naturals, and that I love artisanal perfumes, but not those who have 50 different blends...those who work hard on a few good blends, and especially with oud, incense, real animalics, and real floral oils and enlfleurages even.

    I didn't know that at first. I have some full bottles I purchased at considerable expense that I don't wear often (Oud Malaki for instance), although they are very good and fun occasionally.

    The trouble with really fine perfumes is they can be distracting because you just want to keep noticing their development and that takes your attention away from what you are doing. Small price to pay.

    I'm pretty thrilled with my journey so far. I have relationships of sorts with the finest fragrance artisans in the world. I'll probably start up my own company one of these days. It's been incredible fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by painted_klown View Post
    Hello all,

    I have been into fragrances a little over six months now and I thought I would toss out some things I have learned on my journey thus far. Pl;ease feel free to chime in with your thoughts. These will be brief bullet point types of things to keep this from becoming my usual wall of text.

    1. The sense of smell is so subjective that you really do have to try things for yourself. Like several others, I have bought into hype trains to be left wondering why all the hoopla.

    2. To go along with point 1; A single fragrance can smell like a different fragrance altogether depending on who is wearing it (skin chemistry). It can also smell different on paper vs skin, or even (seemingly) smell different depending on the day/weather/mood/etc. I have been very much surprised by this phenomenon more times than I can count.

    3. Your taste can change very rapidly. Much faster than I initially believed, to be honest. I have went back to revisit some fragrances I bought very early on and I now find them to be very chemical smelling, even if I still find them to be pleasant overall. Synthetic smells are beginning to stick out a little bit to my nose, where at first I could not notice it very well. Along these same lines, you discover what notes you're more apt to enjoy. I find myself drawn to patchouli, oud, rose, and incense. Even though I don't currently own a lot of fragrances with those notes, they are the ones I rank very high.

    4. Bottles seem to last longer than I expected, and I am an over sprayer. I do 10 sprays of my SOTD and have yet to empty a bottle. However, I attribute most of this to finally having a large enough rotation to keep from using the same scent frequently.

    5. I use a different fragrance every day. This is something I would never have considered before. I used to think most people only had 1-3 bottles that they just used until drained. Now, I sincerely feel I would get easily bored doing that. More power to those that do keep a minimalist fragrance wardrobe, however.

    6. Everything has been reformulated. 'Nuff said.

    7. I feel the more I learn and discover, that the parade of fragrances I want to try/own keeps growing and growing. I will be reading here or watching YT, and someone will talk about a fragrance that sounds interesting, and I will want to try it. Perhaps this could be a personal problem, and I am just too easily influenced.

    8. Some fragrances I own are for personal enjoyment only, and I can't really imagine wearing them to work, or in public at all, lest I come off as offensive smelling. A lot of oud fragrances fall under this category IMO. Things that are on the opposite end of the "mass appealing mall scent" spectrum. Some may refer to these as "challenging" fragrances. I'm quite ok with this, and feel drawn to them out of curiosity.

    9. Fragrance truly can be an art form. This point kind of ties in with point 8. Although I make fun of it mercilessly, I cannot deny that Secretions Magnifique is something to behold. Sincerely, I wish I could get along with this one, but it literally makes me start dry heaving upon smelling it. I think it's the strong metallic/blood note that does it. Remove that note, and it may not be nauseating. On the other end, I find myself quite enjoying things like By the Fireplace, Fahrenheit, Interlude, Rein Intense Incense (I really wish I could find a full bottle of this), Oud Maximus, Ten (and Ten Golden Edition), Lui, Grand Soir, Oudh Infini, etc.

    10. Wear what you like. It doesn't matter if it's $10 or $1000. Most people that you come into contact with on a daily basis simply do not care about what you're wearing. They don't know how much it cost, weather it's designer or niche, if it's synthetic or all natural, if it's vintage or reformulated, what batch it is, etc. In fact, they probably won't care if you're wearing fragrance to begin with. All of this geek level stuff is left to us enthusiasts.
    Same situation here.
    Couldn´t agree more with you.
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    Good points!
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    Great post, painted klown. You have some excellent insights. I wanted to build on something that you said below as well as touched on by Diddy.

    Quote Originally Posted by painted_klown View Post
    1. The sense of smell is so subjective that you really do have to try things for yourself. Like several others, I have bought into hype trains to be left wondering why all the hoopla.

    2. To go along with point 1; A single fragrance can smell like a different fragrance altogether depending on who is wearing it (skin chemistry). It can also smell different on paper vs skin, or even (seemingly) smell different depending on the day/weather/mood/etc. I have been very much surprised by this phenomenon more times than I can count.
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    This goes in hand with the OP’s first point... If I’ve said it once, I’ve said it a thousand times. Trust YOUR nose, cause it’s been communicating with YOUR brain for your entire life. Don’t assume that just because someone has a larger wardrobe than you, or more posts than you, that it will equal them being right and you being wrong. You like what you like and don’t what you don’t. Tastes can be similar, sometimes eerily similar, but they’ll never be the exact same. If you find someone with similar tastes, that can direct you to things that give you a higher probability of liking. But in the end, it comes down to your perception of what you’re smelling.
    I agree with both comments, and I also think that it's not only skin chemistry or taste that affects what fragrances smell like. I'm convinced that we all have slightly different olfactory sensitivities. Anosmia is an example of that. Some people just can't smell some things that others do. And on the opposite end, some notes, ingredients or aromachemicals can overtrigger some individual's olfactory senses. The example that I have brought up in the past is cade, which is a concentrated tree oil is often used to create smoky, tobacco or resinous accords. It's typically made from juniper wood. The majority of people who smell a fragrance with cade it in will likely comment on its smokiness or leather or tobacco notes depending on the concentration and the complementary ingredients. However, for me personally, I'm very sensitive to cade and even modest amounts of it smell like burnt meat. I know there are others who react to it similarly, while the majority don't. I find this to be a prime example of why we each ought to try the juice ourselves and not rely on outside reviews, no matter how erudite those reviews are. They do help point one in the right direction, though!
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