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    In recent years, natural vanilla has sometimes been more expensive than silver by weight. Vanilla farmers in Madagascar are cashing in—but violence, theft and volatile markets are threatening their prospects.

    From ice cream to cakes and even perfume, vanilla is the go-to flavour the world over. In recent years the price of natural vanilla has shot up. At one point it was more expensive than silver by weight.

    80% of the world’s vanilla is grown in the perfectly suited climate of the north-east region of Madagascar. It’s the country’s primary export crop. For the farmers, like Beni Odon, life is far sweeter when the vanilla price is high.

    In 2014 vanilla was $80 a kilo. Three years later it was $600. Today it’s around $500. The price rise is due in part to global demand. The trend of eating naturally means that food companies have shunned synthetic flavouring in favour of the real deal. Beni and the other farmers are cashing in.
    https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2018/03/28/why-there-is-a-worldwide-shortage-of-vanilla

    I would bet this trend towards natural vanilla extends to perfume as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shemelimelle View Post
    *scratches head* :/
    I thought vanilla was a synthetic in perfumery, as in Guerlain Shalimar.

    Me no know. Having trouble with the link.
    *scratches head again* /:
    I think in most cases that is what is used, its called vanillin. i suppose there are some that use natural vanilla though.

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    I think the "vanilla" note in perfumes is created using a synthetic chemical compound (unless maybe you buy essential oil?)

    However, the rising prices of real vanilla might possibly contribute to people viewing the scent of it as seeming more "expensive." Which may, in turn, possibly influence the sales of many vanilla perfumes. That remains to be seen, lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarce View Post
    I would bet this trend towards natural vanilla extends to perfume as well.
    I doubt it. Wasn't the very existence of Shalimar credited to the earliest synthesizing of vanilla?

    But the global shortage and price hike of vanilla (beans, especially) is wreaking havoc on cooks and bakers around the world. Some of us are resorting to cutting our self-distilled vanilla with half synthetic vanillin. This can work in some baking applications, but not in pure vanilla-forward products like ice cream and custards, where the synthetic is horrible.

    I myself am partial to Mexican vanilla, and even though the crops there are not threatened, they've seized the opportunity to jack up their prices to the same levels as Madagascar and Tahiti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cook.bot View Post
    I doubt it. Wasn't the very existence of Shalimar credited to the earliest synthesizing of vanilla?

    But the global shortage and price hike of vanilla (beans, especially) is wreaking havoc on cooks and bakers around the world. Some of us are resorting to cutting our self-distilled vanilla with half synthetic vanillin. This can work in some baking applications, but not in pure vanilla-forward products like ice cream and custards, where the synthetic is horrible.

    I myself am partial to Mexican vanilla, and even though the crops there are not threatened, they've seized the opportunity to jack up their prices to the same levels as Madagascar and Tahiti.
    It makes me wonder about the quality of other well known vanilla scents like Spiritueuse Double Vanille, Mona Vanille, Un Bois Vanille, Tihota, Eau Duelle and how they will be effected by it. I know some scents incorporate specific vanillas originates from Mexico, Madagascar, and Tahiti. For sure some will use synthetics while others might use the real deal or a combination of both.
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    I highly doubt if this affects the quality of large-scale vanilla fragrance productions. Other than artisanal natural perfumery brands, most use synthetics anyway. Some however might choose to take advantage of the situation by increasing prices or reformulating using even cheaper stuff.
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    Interesting read. Lush use a natural vanilla in a lot of their products and have some relevant articles worth browsing:

    https://uk.lush.com/article/fair-enough-absolutely

    https://uk.lush.com/article/field-notes-vanilla-crisis

    https://uk.lush.com/article/not-such-sweet-deal

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    Can you imagine someone like Areej Le dore or bortinkoff creating a vanilla scent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crashtestbrummie View Post
    Lush use a natural vanilla in a lot of their products and have some relevant articles worth browsing:

    https://uk.lush.com/article/fair-enough-absolutely

    https://uk.lush.com/article/field-notes-vanilla-crisis

    https://uk.lush.com/article/not-such-sweet-deal
    Thanks for links.
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    Interesting. Thanks for the link.
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    Thank you for posting. Even so, still hoping that this will not have any durable and significant effect on vanilla based fragrances.
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