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    Default Expensive Perfumes aren't worth it - people prefer cheaper scents.

    A link to the Daily Mail, yes, but an interesting story nonetheless.

    Personally, I think most of us would understand why this concludes what it does. I think some of us, not all, would probably agree as well.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...QkZQlBj5u9iKYA

    3 of the 'top 5' favourite notes are 3 of my favourites as well: sandalwood, amber, and bergamot.

    Not sure what that says - about me and the general public - but I can absolutely understand why those 3 have been chosen over others.

    It does appear to be a slightly flawed method of surverying/studying, though. So - in typical Daily Mail fashion - give it as much heed as you think it deserves.

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    I bet there were no basenoters amongst the ten thousand people consulted.
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    Default Re: Expensive Perfumes aren't worth it - people prefer cheaper scents.

    Interesting findings. Thanks for sharing.
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    Default Re: Expensive Perfumes aren't worth it - people prefer cheaper scents.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hunter View Post
    I bet there were no basenoters amongst the ten thousand people consulted.
    Haha, yeah.

    Although, it does sound like they just went on fragrantica and used that for research. At least partly.

    It says they survery 10,000 people - my guess is that's going through lesser-known scents - the top ones seem to have about 5000+ votes, and then all told that equated to 10,000 people. If that is what they've done it's so deeply, deeply flawed on the basis that the more votes a perfume has, the less an individual vote matters...but the more 'accurate', in theory, the overall number.

    (sorry, got this completely wrng - it has 10,000 different perfumes, not people)

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    I did not read the article,but I do agree that expensive fragrances are not worth it.

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    Default Re: Expensive Perfumes aren't worth it - people prefer cheaper scents.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayberry2 View Post
    I did not read the article,but I do agree that expensive fragrances are not worth it.
    Most aren't. Some are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hunter View Post
    I bet there were no basenoters amongst the ten thousand people consulted.
    Haha! Probably true.

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    Default Re: Expensive Perfumes aren't worth it - people prefer cheaper scents.

    Interesting study which does provide caveat, to be fair. A typically misleading Daily Mail headline, though. I didn’t get that finding from the study.

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    Default Re: Expensive Perfumes aren't worth it - people prefer cheaper scents.

    In my case , most expensive fragrances are worth it, and i find the cheaper ones are the ones i have no use for and get sold.

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    Default Re: Expensive Perfumes aren't worth it - people prefer cheaper scents.

    Quote Originally Posted by slpfrsly View Post

    Although, it does sound like they just went on fragrantica and used that for research. ...

    (sorry, got this completely wrng - it has 10,000 different perfumes, not people)

    Yes, it says they studied 10,000 frags, not 10,000 people.

    Without reading the original study, I'm in agreement with you - It was probably some kind of analysis of the Fragrantica directory.

    And really, most likely because of price and availability issues, many more people do indeed buy relatively inexpensive perfumes = Inexpensive perfumes are more preferred, and thus better.
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    Default Re: Expensive Perfumes aren't worth it - people prefer cheaper scents.

    OK, here's the original study : https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0218664

    Without mentioning it by name, they pretty much admit that they used the info from Fragrantica.

    Also they state this :

    " We will assume that a large number of votes for a perfume is a measure of its success. This is a common assumption of most rating systems… In reality, there may be great perfumes that will never be highlighted as very popular. They may cater very well a small clientele, but not appeal to others due to their price, specificity or other factors…. So in our study we assume that the larger the number of votes for a perfume, the more successful that perfume is, which will inevitably penalize some great perfumes that are not universally popular."


    So it certainly does not follow that , "Expensive perfumes are a waste of money because people prefer simpler and CHEAPER scents, scientists reveal."

    All it means is that people generally have more access to less expensive perfumes.
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    Default Re: Expensive Perfumes aren't worth it - people prefer cheaper scents.

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdboy48 View Post
    All it means is that people generally have more access to less expensive perfumes.
    Yep. Like saying people prefer Toyotas to Maseratis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarce View Post
    Most aren't. Some are.
    Have to agree here. If you absolutely adore and love an expensive fragrance, it is worth the cost. I find most people buy expensive frags because of the name alone, much like women signal others of money status with handbags. And you know what, why should I care how someone else wants to spend their expendable income. I used to care about that much more when I was younger. However the older I get the price and house means less and less to me.
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    Personally, I get more positive feedback when I'm wearing more expensive fragrances. The only time I really get any positive feedback from cheaper scents is if it's one of the modern ambroxan bombs.

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    ‘Expensive’ is relative, ‘worth’ is subjective. Unfortunately ‘ignorance’ is absolute: BNers aren’t ‘most people’.
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    I agree. It absolutely is relative, all of it.

    I do think there's something in coming in 'fresh' to something. The concept of beginner's mind, in a way. Collecting and hobbyism of perfumes definitely skews a person's perception a certain way. I dare say that expensive perfumes wouldn't be valued as highly anywhere else than basenotes. Not even among the super wealthy.

    What I also found interesting is the 'favoured notes'. If this were a 'most people' study, at least in the UK, I'd be surprised to see amber as one of the top accords. You could also make a case for sandalwood as well. If you went out and really did a randomised sample - where you'd likely get 1 or 2 people who are passionate about fragrance in 100, if that - I'd expect other notes to be more highly valued than the ones mentioned.

    But then they literally just studied fragrantica, so there we go. In theory, it's not that bad an idea - you probably do get a better approximation of what is liked (at least among certain demographic of people) than if you sample 200-500 or however many people in a random survery. 10,000 fragrances means you're presumably testing over 50,000 votes, minimum. In reality, it's almost certainly 500,000+, probably even 5,000,000+.

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    Thank you for posting.

    Perhaps the likely popularity of and preference for cheaper scents can be partly explained due to another factor apart from budget/pricing alone: assuming that less pricey scents may seem more approachable, less challenging, more comfortable and of less sophisticated formality, making them perhaps easier to purchase, enjoy, compliment, sample, combine with most occasions and outfits by the standards and expectations of most fragrance shoppers/customers.

    Notable exceptions from scents that successfully combine (or at least had a better start/run at increasingly succeeding to remain bestselling while comparatively pricey) can be houses like Creed.
    At least some of their scents being notable bestsellers almost irrespective of price point (though their popularity has led to making certain discounts/special offers tend to somehow counterbalance this possible) while still remaining fairly versatile, even mass appealing while also likelier to be complimented and recognized.

    Trying to sum up the main idea of this article, it seems to be that (with notable exceptions) cheap or at least affordable seems to be perceived as more approachable and more accessible, fragrances most or more people might feel safer and comfortable with. However missing here a bit the perspective, info, feedback on pricier scents which may have similar, comparable levels of popularity and favorable results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdboy48 View Post
    "Expensive perfumes are a waste of money because people prefer simpler and CHEAPER scents, scientists reveal."
    It's not a science - they just crunched number from fragrantica, made a couple of totally wrong assumptions and didn't take basic economical laws into account.
    I call it bullshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zizzy View Post
    It's not a science - they just crunched number from fragrantica, made a couple of totally wrong assumptions and didn't take basic economical laws into account.
    I call it bullshit
    Exactly. Looks more like a hastily-concocted final paper of some bachelor degree student than a work of any real scientist(s).

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    Thanks for sharing.
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    Default Re: Expensive Perfumes aren't worth it - people prefer cheaper scents.

    Typical "Daily Fail" reporting. The study had nothing to do with cheap vs expensive, rather, it was a study of common vs rare notes. See the original study from Imperial College London:

    https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/1918...ays-make-best/

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    Quote Originally Posted by MELVCMS01 View Post
    In my case , most expensive fragrances are worth it, and i find the cheaper ones are the ones i have no use for and get sold.
    Same. That's me with every Mancera/Montale ever. I try them and it's like "hmm. oh that's... nice, pleasant, and would be good for X situation. Yeah okay enough of that, sold"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post
    ‘Expensive’ is relative, ‘worth’ is subjective. Unfortunately ‘ignorance’ is absolute: BNers aren’t ‘most people’.
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    Default Re: Expensive Perfumes aren't worth it - people prefer cheaper scents.

    These kind of arguments always break down into class warfare. The hoity-toity versus the hoi polloi. Haves will always say "yes my $500 perfume is worth every penny" and have-nots will reject that and say "If I have to spend more than $100 it is a waste!". Scale up for inflation if this argument pops up in 5 or 10 more years ($600 versus $150 etc).

    I'm no stranger to declaring some prestige-segment houses as guilty of shamelessly repackaging old styles left behind by designers as "luxury", because there's enough cultural amnesia in the market to upgrade dad's old oriental fougère as the latest Roja Dove or Tom Ford without the typical silicon valley jock noticing, but I've also tasted some rather unique and desirable lines from this market tier too, so I say:

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    Because most of us with a stable job and the ability to save money towards something frivolous we really want will still justify a reason to spend the money whether the popular consensus thinks it's sensible or not. Since this "Daily Mail" article focuses purely on the popular consensus, it's naturally going to skew towards the mainstream opinion that a perfume which costs more than Playstation 4 is silly, but these same people will also get a $1000 iPhone X to keep up with the Joneses so there's a bit of hypocrisy in these kinds of articles.

    I'm not saying you should live on a diet of ramen for a month to sacrifice quality of life because a bottle of Oud Infini is really "worth it", but if you are invested enough in the hobby to even dare wearing something like that for enjoyment, you're past the point of caring about it costing $500 for 50ml of extrait, so it's "worth it" in the same context that a $60 bottle of L'Occitane Eau des Baux is totally "worth it" too. Just my 2 cents.
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    Default Re: Expensive Perfumes aren't worth it - people prefer cheaper scents.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot Crusader View Post
    but these same people will also get a $1000 iPhone X to keep up with the Joneses so there's a bit of hypocrisy in these kinds of articles.
    Exactly.

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    Default Re: Expensive Perfumes aren't worth it - people prefer cheaper scents.

    Personally, I've always only bought perfume just because because I like the scent! Whether or not it's trendy or "cheap" or "expensive" has never really been a consideration for me!

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    Ha. They think "simple, natural" sandalwood is an attribute of a "cheaper" scent.

    I can think of a $90 per gram answer to that: http://www.feel-oud.com/product/the-mysore-oil/
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    Default Re: Expensive Perfumes aren't worth it - people prefer cheaper scents.

    I do prefer cheaper scents. If I can get a wonderful quality cologne for $20 that outdoes something that's $200, I'd jump on it. Unfortunately, that has never happened to me.
    People would tend to sacrifice quality in order to get something for next to nothing, but I can't do that, especially when it comes to cologne.
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    In my whole wardrobe, my favorite fragrances and the ones that have stood the test of time and haven't been sold off or relegated to a dusty corner of the closet tend to be the more expensive fragrances, let's say $75 and up. It's the cheap ones that I always regret buying in the end, as they end up not satisfying me in the long run. This is usually because they lack the quality of the more expensive fragrances, or because they don't feature as unique/interesting a blend. Of course there are exceptions to the rule, but in general this is the case.




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