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    Default Re: Beau de Jour to become part of Tom Ford's signature line?

    Quote Originally Posted by nice_bob12 View Post
    So I blind bought it and it goes HARD on the lavender.
    Reminiscent of Burberry London without the sweetness to my nose.
    I got a sample now after buying a bottle of Shanghai Lily online. Yes, Beau de Jour goes hard on the Lavender. Yes, this is a typical barbershop type fragrance. It is very well made, and it is a very good fragrance. It is just not my style.

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    Default Re: Beau de Jour to become part of Tom Ford's signature line?

    I recently tried it - and I mean gave it a proper wearing rather than just a quick spray on skin or a card.

    Have to say I’ve never tried anything so overly powdery in my life. Once again, Tom Ford goes from bad to worse. What was he thinking? Let’s see how much powder I can load in this thing to make everyone sick? It may come across as traditional to some but it’s the use of certain ingredients (I can’t tell which ones) that make me think this is just not the sort that I’m used to in that type of genre/category of scent.

    Trying Tom Ford for Men on the other hand brings back some good memories of this brand. Shame.

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    Default Re: Beau de Jour to become part of Tom Ford's signature line?

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    Default Re: Beau de Jour to become part of Tom Ford's signature line?

    Quote Originally Posted by Twilight99 View Post
    Tom Ford for Men is full of Iso E Super, which actually make some people sick. Using Iso E Super is a cheap and lazy way to make a fragrance.
    I agree it’s distasteful and I am one of those that gets bothered by the note. In TFfM though I have to say it’s not too bad. There are worse examples to give but that’s another thread altogether.

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    Default Re: Beau de Jour to become part of Tom Ford's signature line?

    Grey Vetiver EDP vs. Beau de Jour EDP thoughts?

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    Default Re: Beau de Jour to become part of Tom Ford's signature line?

    Quote Originally Posted by rum View Post
    I agree it’s distasteful and I am one of those that gets bothered by the note. In TFfM though I have to say it’s not too bad. There are worse examples to give but that’s another thread altogether.
    I was actually thinking about Tom Ford for Men Extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rum View Post
    I recently tried it - and I mean gave it a proper wearing rather than just a quick spray on skin or a card.

    Have to say I’ve never tried anything so overly powdery in my life. Once again, Tom Ford goes from bad to worse. What was he thinking? Let’s see how much powder I can load in this thing to make everyone sick? It may come across as traditional to some but it’s the use of certain ingredients (I can’t tell which ones) that make me think this is just not the sort that I’m used to in that type of genre/category of scent.

    Trying Tom Ford for Men on the other hand brings back some good memories of this brand. Shame.
    What do you mean by powder? As in, an actual chemical or accord, or just an idea/sense of powder? Because I have to say I don't really get any of either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rum View Post
    I agree it’s distasteful and I am one of those that gets bothered by the note. In TFfM though I have to say it’s not too bad. There are worse examples to give but that’s another thread altogether.
    That might be what I dislike in TFFM then, Iso E Super. Hmmm. I had to stop wearing it as it just leaves me feeling sick every 4-5 times I wear it. Yet to experience that with BdJ but if it does, I'm probably going to knock TF on the head as I find they are interesting scents that just don't live up to the hype or top notes. Not enjoyable as wearable fragrances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by speckmann0706 View Post
    Grey Vetiver EDP vs. Beau de Jour EDP thoughts?
    Haha, strange you say that, I have decants of both GVs and, again, it's another one that makes me feel *very* sick when wearing, but I applied to EDP on my hand a few nights ago, with BdJ on the other. BdJ smashes it out of the park for me. Not even a contest. If for some reason you make more transparency and soapiness, and less...well, interest, heat, spice etc..then there you go, GV is your winner. But not for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slpfrsly View Post
    Haha, strange you say that, I have decants of both GVs and, again, it's another one that makes me feel *very* sick when wearing, but I applied to EDP on my hand a few nights ago, with BdJ on the other. BdJ smashes it out of the park for me. Not even a contest. If for some reason you make more transparency and soapiness, and less...well, interest, heat, spice etc..then there you go, GV is your winner. But not for me.
    Interesting. I am not impressed by BdJ at all. I find it a medicinal scrubber. Grey Vetiver EDP whilst no where my favourite scent is nonetheless wearable to me.


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    Tried this on skin today. Have tried the private blend version a good while ago.

    Well, this is definitely a really good scent in the barber shop style, it's lavender is prominent and keeps going and going. So, the lavender tips it over the edge of a regular barber shop scent to me. It's obviously really well made too.

    I think if you are 60+ and take care of yourself, and you love lavender, it could be an absolute no brainer for you. It's a great one by Tom Ford to go with your Grey Vetiver.

    It's no good if you are under 60 though, if you are and you're looking at this you really want to be looking at Fougere D'Argent instead, that's a more rounded scent with more personality to it. So, for the 40 - 60 year olds Fougere D'Argent is going to work much better.

    If you're younger than 40 and for some reason are into old fashioned scents like this Fougere D'Argent is the only real option of those two as well, with Beau de Jour you'd come across really weird, like you're wearing your grandad's aftershave.

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    Fougere d'Argent is great, but for me, too much tonka veers it in to cloying. I do get some of the 'cheap' or medicinal criticisms of BdJ as that would also apply to quite a lot of TFs, but I stil love this, and don't think it's too old mannish whatsoever. I'm really enjoying wearing the new one to work and have 100ml bottle already, hoping to stock up on a few more until they inevitably reformulate it before 2022, which seems to be the EL way.
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    I was at sephora looking for the signature version of this one today but they dont have it yet here in greece,asked the s.a. in the tom ford corner and she actually said that while the fragrance will remain the same to an extend,the materials it would be made of will be different..whatever that means..

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    Finally got a hefty set of samples of BdJ and tested it on the back of my hand. I'm still not a big fan of the discordant first 30 minutes to an hour. It did settle to a lovely dry down and can appreciate that.

    As mentioned before, I tested the private line version and did not woo me at all. I was also testing a bunch of different fragrances at the time. I'll do some full wearings and determine if I want a bottle.
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    Default Re: Beau de Jour to become part of Tom Ford's signature line?

    Quote Originally Posted by nikthegreek View Post
    I was at sephora looking for the signature version of this one today but they dont have it yet here in greece,asked the s.a. in the tom ford corner and she actually said that while the fragrance will remain the same to an extend,the materials it would be made of will be different..whatever that means..
    Unsurprising. All it means is that it's a bit cheaper. They're probably used a cheaper synthetic lavender, for instance, as it does smell less vibrant to my nose.
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    Default Re: Beau de Jour to become part of Tom Ford's signature line?

    Quote Originally Posted by deltasun View Post
    Finally got a hefty set of samples of BdJ and tested it on the back of my hand. I'm still not a big fan of the discordant first 30 minutes to an hour. It did settle to a lovely dry down and can appreciate that.

    As mentioned before, I tested the private line version and did not woo me at all. I was also testing a bunch of different fragrances at the time. I'll do some full wearings and determine if I want a bottle.
    Interesting.

    I now have a bottle of the signature and am wearing it on a daily basis. If you don't like the private blend I'd say avoid the signature. It's not miles apart, but the opening 20 minutes are definitely worse for that discordant harshness. It's really about the mids and the sweet drydown on the new version. I see that someone on fragrantica compared it to Layton, and actually they're not far off - it is a really, really sweet scent after a few others, almost vanillic, with the herbal and spicy qualities meaning it definitely goes in the same direction.

    Anyway, yeah. I like it well enough to keep it and wear it now. One minor gripe - the lids on the new bottles are a bit crap. I like the bottle though. B99 is the batch code for future reference/if anyone's interested.
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    Default Re: Beau de Jour to become part of Tom Ford's signature line?

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    If it does come out in 2 years' time, is it reasonable to expect a name change? By and large, including even their Noir range, their signature scents have eschewed the more...hmmmm...'artistic' names the PB line has gone for.

    You can get away with Noir + suffix, and maybe even Ombre Leather, as it's pretty clear what leather is and Noir at least gives a solid hint about the style for English speaking consumers. But Beau de Jour? There's absolutely no indication what this scent will be about, really. You could say the same is true for the others but...I dunno. The name works well for PB, but if this IS going to be aimed at a wider, less specialist portion of the market, I feel like they're missing something by not making it more immediately obvious about what's inside the bottle.

    Alternatively, working on the basis that this IS going to happen, could Rive Gauche's discontinuation have forced their hand? Or rather, they saw a gap in the market and they're going for it? That seems reasonable to me - but I don't know. Would decisions like this work that quickly? I imagine probably not.
    Just flicking back through this - I do wonder if Beau de Jour was the right name for selling this fragrance to aspirational middle America. 'Beau' - feminine, french. Also people won't understand what it translates to, let alone understand the play on words, and it doesnt give any indication what it actually smells like. Its success surely depends on word of mouth and status to bridge that language gap in the non-French speaking parts of the US, Europe and wherever else the commercial success of BdJ is reliant upon.
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    Default Re: Beau de Jour to become part of Tom Ford's signature line?

    Quote Originally Posted by slpfrsly View Post
    Just flicking back through this - I do wonder if Beau de Jour was the right name for selling this fragrance to aspirational middle America. 'Beau' - feminine, french. Also people won't understand what it translates to, let alone understand the play on words, and it doesnt give any indication what it actually smells like. Its success surely depends on word of mouth and status to bridge that language gap in the non-French speaking parts of the US, Europe and wherever else the commercial success of BdJ is reliant upon.
    I know what you mean and in any case I agree with you. But isn’t that the case for the vast majority of fragrances?

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    Default Re: Beau de Jour to become part of Tom Ford's signature line?

    I just tried it again and to be honest I’m warming up to it a bit more. The opening is better than the dry down. It is very strong though and the tiniest little dab is more than enough for me. Anything more than say half a spray from the new bottle (which looks wonderfully classy and reminds me of the early Eau Sauvage bottle in a way) is going to be too much.

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    Yes,the opening is way better than the drydown,the first 1 1.5 hour is fine in my opinion.Then it start gets powdery and have this weird lipstick kind a vibe and gets a bit feminine and puts me off.More than 2 sprays from the PB and it gets nuclear..anyway,looking forward to try the new signature version,wich i think it will be better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rum View Post
    I know what you mean and in any case I agree with you. But isn’t that the case for the vast majority of fragrances?
    I would say there was a change in the 90s when fragrance went more mainstream in the Anglosphere/northern Europe and America. Before that, fragrance was associated with the Latinate countries, and of course France, and west Asia. A combination of lighter/fresher scents for the non perfume loving Europeans and Americans, combined with the glamour of the mass market and huge designers (Armani, Calvin Klein etc) meant that some names kept the Latinate branding (Acqua di Gio) but the more American-centric scents did not (CK One, Obsession). I don't know, it's being a bit too simplistic and black and white, but it feels like the big change has been to 'dumb down' fragrances you intend to be mass sellers - even Acqua di Gio is obvious enough. Water de 'something'. That's all you need to know. Water. Salt water. Bleu de Chanel. Chanel blue. Obvious, easy, and in the realm of what men have come to understand as 'blue' products over the last 20-30 years. But Beau de Jour? Beauty something? I think the general male discomfort around fragrances to begin with - feminine, pointless, expensive - is made even worse when it comes to then trying to 'guess' the name when their grasp of French might be as terrible as I'm making it sound, hahaha. "Something beauty": that's the direct opposite of the 'something water' and 'something blue' trend that big sellers have gone for. Or even the gaudy 1 Million or The One. Numerical, simple, elitist/'the winner'. Not beautiful. Fair play to Tom Ford for persisting with who and what he is - and maybe this fragrance would never really have competed with those mentioned as it doesn't have the universality or mass appeal in quite the same way - but if their intention was to make this resonate with more everyman consumers when at their most aspirational, there's a risk with the name, I think.
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    Finally got my nose on this at Dillard's this afternoon. Imagine the kind of aftershave someone like Don Draper might have worn. If Pinaud or Aqua Velva did a niche aftershave. This is what this stuff makes me think of. Yes, similar to what I remember Creed Bois du Portugal smelling like, but that was more powdery, while the Tom Ford was more soapy. There's enough of a difference that I could imagine owning both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by masonjarjar View Post
    Finally got my nose on this at Dillard's this afternoon. Imagine the kind of aftershave someone like Don Draper might have worn. If Pinaud or Aqua Velva did a niche aftershave. This is what this stuff makes me think of. Yes, similar to what I remember Creed Bois du Portugal smelling like, but that was more powdery, while the Tom Ford was more soapy. There's enough of a difference that I could imagine owning both.
    I feel like Beau de Jour is the midway point between Zino and Rive Gauche, but greener than either thanks to patchouli.
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    I feel like Beau de Jour is the midway point between Zino and Rive Gauche, but greener than either thanks to patchouli.
    It is actually a clone of Amouage Bracken, but not as natural in smell, somewhat discordant and very synthetic in a later phases of its development
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post
    Surely most Americans are familiar with ‘Google’ translations? Besides, when it comes to marketing the Tom Ford brand cache carries far more weight than any awkward fragrance names...
    Yes, but not when they're in a shop? Maybe I'm overlooking how big online shopping is now compared to in store purchasing - but I still feel like fragrance is one of those things that people buy loved ones for Christmas, and they'd like to be 'sold' them at a store by customer assistants giving them the marketing spiel. Maybe I'm wrong though, who knows.
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    Got this in last week. Love it.

    I smell some difference to my private blend sample, though i didnt notice much from memory. A side by side illuminated. Its a bit weaker, and just a bit different. I found it a bit drier and less green than the private. I like it a bit more. My wiife said it smells like medicine. Lol. Lavendar.
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    Default Re: Beau de Jour to become part of Tom Ford's signature line?

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    Got this in last week. Love it.

    I smell some difference to my private blend sample, though i didnt notice much from memory. A side by side illuminated. Its a bit weaker, and just a bit different. I found it a bit drier and less green than the private. I like it a bit more. My wiife said it smells like medicine. Lol. Lavendar.
    Congratulations! The bottle looks really good.

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    I picked up a bottle last week. To my nose, it’s a mash-up of Dior Eau Sauvage Parfum, Guerlain Heritage, and a dose of powdery lavender. It’s very long lasting, and my wife didn’t say I couldn’t wear it. (She likes Heritage / Roja Danger but is just indifferent to Dior Eau Sauvage Parfume.). I see myself using this a lot for public occasions. I have a tiny bit of a PB Beau de Jour sample I’ll compare to this next week.
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    Default Re: Beau de Jour to become part of Tom Ford's signature line?

    Quote Originally Posted by Russlan View Post
    It is actually a clone of Amouage Bracken, but not as natural in smell, somewhat discordant and very synthetic in a later phases of its development
    What do the later phases of Bracken Man smell like? You've really piqued my curiosity with that comparison. I haven't tried Bracken yet. Amouage is hit or miss with me, but when they're good, they tend to be exceptionally good.
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