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    I've wanted to buy this for a long time but it was out of production for months maybe a year.
    Some people said it was discontinued...
    But just noticed it's available to buy on the Bond no 9 site for 300 dollars.
    Hmmm is that how much it always went for??
    That's a large amount of coins for a fragrance.
    But is it worth it??
    I've heard it's just like Rochas man but performs much better.

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    Default Re: New Haarlem question

    It is very much like Rochas Man, with more of a waffles/syrup smell. Many like Rochas Man better. And the price is definitely right.

    I just looked at their US website and didn't find it. But most all of their 100 ml fragrances are advertised for the upper $300 to mid $400 range....some even into the $500 range. So if you're seeing a 100 ml bottle for $300, it's actually a good deal....compared to prices in the USA.
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    Default Re: New Haarlem question

    Personally speaking, if I really wanted to smell like waffles and syrup I'd go with Rochas Man for around $25 instead of blowing $300, but that's just me.
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    I think few would agree that Bond No 9s are 'worth it' at list prices. A few other 'niche' companies are in this category too: lots of releases each year and high prices.
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    It smells extremely similar to Mugler's A*Men Pure Tonka, if you've ever tried that one. Rochas Man is lighter and less maple syrup to me than New Haarlem.

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    Default Re: New Haarlem question

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    Many like Rochas Man better.
    I'm definitely one.
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    Default Re: New Haarlem question

    They're basically the American Creed. Buy at a discounter if you really want it.
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    Default Re: New Haarlem question

    If you try to buy NH from Bond's website, nothing happens. It doesn't go to cart. The scent turns up in a google search, linking back to their site, but I think it's just a latent webpage. There were posts here on BN about Bond awaiting some ingredient before being able to reissue, but I'm not terribly hopeful.

    I've tried Rochas Man, and it's nothing like New Haarlem to me.
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    Pick up a bottle of Rochas man, it's very inexpensive and very comparable to NH, just not as persistent.
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    Default Re: New Haarlem question

    Decent fragrance, but not worth $300.00 by any means.
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    Default Re: New Haarlem question

    Quote Originally Posted by darkmatter View Post
    It smells extremely similar to Mugler's A*Men Pure Tonka, if you've ever tried that one. Rochas Man is lighter and less maple syrup to me than New Haarlem.
    I own pure tonka it's a beast I also own Rochas man which is much softer

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    Default Re: New Haarlem question

    Quote Originally Posted by Quarry View Post
    If you try to buy NH from Bond's website, nothing happens. It doesn't go to cart. The scent turns up in a google search, linking back to their site, but I think it's just a latent webpage. There were posts here on BN about Bond awaiting some ingredient before being able to reissue, but I'm not terribly hopeful.

    I've tried Rochas Man, and it's nothing like New Haarlem to me.
    I didn't press add to cart but that wasn't even possible about five months ago. It just said currently out of stock.

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    Default Re: New Haarlem question

    I think it was around $300 when I bought it a few years ago, and it is worth it too me. Much deeper than the “syrup” comments, even though there is some thick sweetness to it. Also lasts a long time.

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    I do believe it was discontinued, as prices reflect that now too. I'm glad the hype died on this one, because it's really not anything special imo. Rochas Man, Mugler Pure Tonka, or even Jordan Legend are suitable alternatives for much much less. I don't think smelling like you fell into a pool of pancakes and maple syrup to be appealing, unless you wanna smell like actual food. I think the other 3 I mention are the same feel, but also made more to be fragrance like, and less to be weird food craving to smell like pancakes and maple syrup-like. LOL.
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    I bought many years earlier back when it was $215 for a 100ml in retails. Haven't worn it many years but I recalled it wasn't quite the same as Rochas Man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foamywax View Post
    I own pure tonka it's a beast I also own Rochas man which is much softer
    I think if you own Pure Tonka, you don't really need New Haarlem. They are that similar to each other to me. Rochas Man has a tiny similarity but really Pure Tonka is almost a dupe for NH to me. Just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkmatter View Post
    I think if you own Pure Tonka, you don't really need New Haarlem. They are that similar to each other to me. Rochas Man has a tiny similarity but really Pure Tonka is almost a dupe for NH to me. Just my opinion.
    I've tried the fragrances mentioned above, and my perception is that "vintage" RM is going to get you quite close to NH, but NH is like the unisex version of vintage RM, which is still borderline unisex anyway. The batch of RM I had, which I think was from 2014, was clearly inferior to NH, but I think around 2011 or earlier is the one to get. So my advice would be to have patience and get some vintage RM on ebay from someone who is selling it at a low price. Yes, some will say Jordan's Legend is close, and it's in the same ballpark, so if that's all you want then it's the cheapest, along with Innovation by Cardin, which is yet further away from NH. I can't tell you what will be satisfactory to you, only myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foamywax View Post
    I've wanted to buy this for a long time but it was out of production for months maybe a year.
    Some people said it was discontinued...
    But just noticed it's available to buy on the Bond no 9 site for 300 dollars.
    Hmmm is that how much it always went for??
    That's a large amount of coins for a fragrance.
    But is it worth it??
    I've heard it's just like Rochas man but performs much better.
    No! Performs better than Rochas man, a great deal more!

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    Default Re: New Haarlem question

    Quote Originally Posted by darkmatter View Post
    I think if you own Pure Tonka, you don't really need New Haarlem. They are that similar to each other to me. Rochas Man has a tiny similarity but really Pure Tonka is almost a dupe for NH to me. Just my opinion.
    Thanks alot! I'll have to try new Haarlem I'm very curious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    I've tried the fragrances mentioned above, and my perception is that "vintage" RM is going to get you quite close to NH, but NH is like the unisex version of vintage RM, which is still borderline unisex anyway. The batch of RM I had, which I think was from 2014, was clearly inferior to NH, but I think around 2011 or earlier is the one to get. So my advice would be to have patience and get some vintage RM on ebay from someone who is selling it at a low price. Yes, some will say Jordan's Legend is close, and it's in the same ballpark, so if that's all you want then it's the cheapest, along with Innovation by Cardin, which is yet further away from NH. I can't tell you what will be satisfactory to you, only myself.
    So you believe that vintage Rochas man is superior well I will have to agree but I read somewhere that the perfumer of yohji home has tinkered with Rochas man now that he's the perfumer for rochas. Look, I paid 35 euros for a 100ml bottle of the latest Rochas man from interparfums. It's beautiful but too soft. It needs more power like a Mugler. BUT you never find a Mugler fragrance for under 55 euros and they perform very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foamywax View Post
    So you believe that vintage Rochas man is superior well I will have to agree but I read somewhere that the perfumer of yohji home has tinkered with Rochas man now that he's the perfumer for rochas. Look, I paid 35 euros for a 100ml bottle of the latest Rochas man from interparfums. It's beautiful but too soft. It needs more power like a Mugler. BUT you never find a Mugler fragrance for under 55 euros and they perform very well.
    I found a batch of RM from a few or more years ago to be basically unwearable, perhaps due to a harsh musk aroma chemical that they started using. Obviously, many if not most won't even notice that, but I found it way too irritating. If you like the new RM but it's too weak, then trying spraying a whole lot more than usual - for me that is usually what works, though not with all fragrances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foamywax View Post
    Thanks alot! I'll have to try new Haarlem I'm very curious
    I didn't find PT to be especially similar to NH, so that's the "risk" of asking such questions - you might end up more confused than when you began. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkmatter View Post
    It smells extremely similar to Mugler's A*Men Pure Tonka, if you've ever tried that one. Rochas Man is lighter and less maple syrup to me than New Haarlem.
    I agree. New Haarlem is the best of the 3 but Pure Tonka is the closest to it. Rochas Man wears very light on my skin. I didn't really care for it. Absolutely love NH & PT. Both are totally over the top but if you're in the right mood they can be great fun!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarce View Post
    Personally speaking, if I really wanted to smell like waffles and syrup I'd go with Rochas Man for around $25 instead of blowing $300, but that's just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarce View Post
    Personally speaking, if I really wanted to smell like waffles and syrup I'd go with Rochas Man for around $25 instead of blowing $300, but that's just me.
    Scarce is right.

    I haven't tried Rochas Man, but if I really wanted to smell like waffles and syrup I'd go to IHOP. I have a sample of New Haarlem, and I don't get it. I love breakfast, but I don't want to smell like breakfast.

    Here's my advice: Think about what you're looking for here, and find a scent that does it better... unless the Aunt Jemima vibe really is what you're after.
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    Default Re: New Haarlem question

    if you like the gourmands NH is one of the best..' nuff said! Don't let the cheapskates get in your way!

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    I don't think Rochas Man is much like NH -- it's much softer and not really 'waffle' like imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by L'Homme Blanc Individuel View Post
    Scarce is right.

    I haven't tried Rochas Man, but if I really wanted to smell like waffles and syrup I'd go to IHOP. I have a sample of New Haarlem, and I don't get it. I love breakfast, but I don't want to smell like breakfast.

    Here's my advice: Think about what you're looking for here, and find a scent that does it better... unless the Aunt Jemima vibe really is what you're after.
    I find it odd that you would pour waffles and syrup on yourself.
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    Anyone ever smell that rochas man intense or was it extreme that came out so many years ago only to then get discontinued?




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