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    Hi everyone, this is Zhang Fan. I have made a couple of other topics here already, and I don't want to fill the site with too many, so I thought I could make one topic and post questions as I think of them. I hope that's okay. Here are two of my questions so far. I'd really appreciate it if anyone could give me advice about them!

    - Two of the fragrances I tried recently are Kiehl's Original Musk and Dior Homme. I like both very much, and I'm wondering what situations/clothes they would be suitable for. Is it okay if I wear them in the summer?

    - Are there any famous fragrances that are not suitable for young people? I'm in my 20s, so it might help me save time if there are some that might not be suitable for me.

    - If you could recommend a few classic fragrances everyone should try, what are they?

    Thank you!

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    Hello ZhangFan and welcome to Basenotes! Keep the questions coming

    Please have in mind I consider myself a newbie here, too, but I think I can share my opinion here still.

    1. I haven't tried these two on myself, but I don't think that there are fragrances that are inappropriate for either summer or winter, it's just that you might be naturally drawn to stronger, darker, deeper scents in winter and find such fragrances cloying in summer while finding very fresh scents fleeting in winter - most people do, but not all. But basically there are no rules except what your nose tells you, so you basically should try to see how you feel in one scent or another. For example, in really hot weather I find almost everything that's not citruses cloying, but I can happily wear fresh citrus fragrances in winter, because they lift my mood and remind me about summer. But on the other hand, on cooler summer days I can reach for an oriental or gourmand and feel absolutely great doused in something that might be considered autumnal or wintery scent. Follow your nose and your wants.

    2. I personally don't think there are fragrances that are not suitable for young, old or middle aged people - if you enjoy something and it makes you feel good and you think the scent speaks to you, just wear it happily. Then again, fragrances have their fashion periods, too, so something that was created in, say, 20s, 60s or 90s, might have some associations with the generation of people who were in their 20s at that time (just like with clothes fashion, music and so on). These things go with association, too, for example, if your grandmother and your aunt wore Chanel No.5, you might start associating it with older generation and see it's not for you, as you might not want to be associated with how they smell, or you might see it as a timeless scent that was equally great on your grandma, aunt, mother, sister and might fit your future daughter just as well. Then also some things go by personal taste and perception - for example, my dad wears mostly aquatics, but I don't see them as "dad fragrances", as quite a lot of my friends my age also love and wear them, so I tend to see men's aquatics as just "masculine" or "familiar and cozy".
    To answer your question, I myself see most of Chanel fragrances (except Bleu and maybe something else I forgot) as rather mature smelling, especially Pour Mounsieur. I mean, a suit and a tie are mature and classy, but that doesn't mean a 16 or 22 or 27 year old guy will look "old" wearing it - especially in the right occasion.
    Then again, you're in your 20s, so you're not that young. I mean that in the way that you're a grown man already, and not some teenager, so you can basically rock anything you like already.

    3. There are some nice threads, maybe you would find something useful here:
    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/399...hlight=classic
    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/467...rence-perfumes
    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/462...or-200-Or-Less

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhangFan View Post

    - Two of the fragrances I tried recently are Kiehl's Original Musk and Dior Homme. I like both very much, and I'm wondering what situations/clothes they would be suitable for. Is it okay if I wear them in the summer?
    I don't see why not.
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    Whatever, whenever. As long as you enjoy it is all that matters. What you will have to monitor is the amount of sprays though.
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    I have another question: has anyone created their own list of fragrance genres? I have watched a video by Mr. Smelly, he tries to do it, but I wonder if there are other choices. I think the classic way to do it is something like this:

    Aquatic - Aromatic - Chypre - Citrus - Floral - Fougere - Fruity - Gourmand - Leather - Oriental - Woody

    But I think this way makes it very difficult to decide which group a fragrance belongs to.

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    You are right, what you posted is the usual way of classifying fragrances.
    And no, I haven't tried to create my own list of genres. Have you?

    On deciding to which group a fragrance belongs to - it might be difficult at first with such genres as Fougere and Chypre, as they are based on bergamot and oakmoss accords so you have to have smelled some of better known fragrances in these genres to get to know the smell - after that it should be easier. Yes, I still struggle understanding Fougere and Chypre myself, but I'm slowly learning. Oriental also might be tricky at first, it's basically a style of rich, opulent scents full of various resins, spices, incense and so on - think of scent associations with historical Persia, India, Middle East, sultan palaces and so on. These days this style is sometimes referred as "Amber" instead of "Oriental". Other genres are pretty straightforward and just smell like whatever is described: if you smell flowers, it's floral; if you smell lemon, bergamot, grapefruit etc., then it's citrus; if you smell other fruits - peach, apple, strawberry... - it's fruity; if you smell the impression of seaside or running water, it's aquatic; if it's sweet and smells edible (think chocolate, biscuits, pastries, nutella, sweet latte...) - it's gourmand; if you smell leather or woods, it's leather or woods and so on. These profiles can be combined to get fruity floral, floral oriental, citrus woody and various other scents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClockworkAlice View Post
    You are right, what you posted is the usual way of classifying fragrances.
    And no, I haven't tried to create my own list of genres. Have you?

    On deciding to which group a fragrance belongs to - it might be difficult at first with such genres as Fougere and Chypre, as they are based on bergamot and oakmoss accords so you have to have smelled some of better known fragrances in these genres to get to know the smell - after that it should be easier. Yes, I still struggle understanding Fougere and Chypre myself, but I'm slowly learning. Oriental also might be tricky at first, it's basically a style of rich, opulent scents full of various resins, spices, incense and so on - think of scent associations with historical Persia, India, Middle East, sultan palaces and so on. These days this style is sometimes referred as "Amber" instead of "Oriental". Other genres are pretty straightforward and just smell like whatever is described: if you smell flowers, it's floral; if you smell lemon, bergamot, grapefruit etc., then it's citrus; if you smell other fruits - peach, apple, strawberry... - it's fruity; if you smell the impression of seaside or running water, it's aquatic; if it's sweet and smells edible (think chocolate, biscuits, pastries, nutella, sweet latte...) - it's gourmand; if you smell leather or woods, it's leather or woods and so on. These profiles can be combined to get fruity floral, floral oriental, citrus woody and various other scents.
    Thank you! So far, I often think of the genres differently. Not based on the notes, but based on the situations I will use them for (work, casual, date, club, and so on.) I think it's important to know when you will use anything you are buying, but maybe not what category it belongs to in its own group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhangFan View Post
    Hi everyone, this is Zhang Fan. I have made a couple of other topics here already, and I don't want to fill the site with too many, so I thought I could make one topic and post questions as I think of them. I hope that's okay. Here are two of my questions so far. I'd really appreciate it if anyone could give me advice about them!

    - Two of the fragrances I tried recently are Kiehl's Original Musk and Dior Homme. I like both very much, and I'm wondering what situations/clothes they would be suitable for. Is it okay if I wear them in the summer?

    - Are there any famous fragrances that are not suitable for young people? I'm in my 20s, so it might help me save time if there are some that might not be suitable for me.

    - If you could recommend a few classic fragrances everyone should try, what are they?

    Thank you!
    Hey, ZhangFan. I have Dior Homme Intense and I love it. I wear it in any season, but IMO, it is a good scent for summer. It smells almost exactly like Dior Homme, it's just stronger. It's a little harder to find, but worth it.
    I think someone in their 20's should try the more mature frags unless you have a hang up about smelling like your grandpa or something. I liked the sweeter smelling colognes in my younger days, so there's nothing wrong with going that route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhangFan View Post
    I have another question: has anyone created their own list of fragrance genres?
    It would be a nightmare if I tried to do this with my collection.
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    You could also classify a fragrance by occasion or the mood it puts you in:

    Formal, Business, Casual, Dressed up, Romantic, Fun, Flirty, Debonair, Sporty, Relaxed, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post
    You could also classify a fragrance by occasion or the mood it puts you in:

    Formal, Business, Casual, Dressed up, Romantic, Fun, Flirty, Debonair, Sporty, Relaxed, etc.
    Thank you! I'm interested in finding more "casual" fragrances, but I don't know how to decide when a fragrance is casual or not. In my hometown, it is very hot and humid, so most people like to wear short sleeves and so on. Do you have some favorite casual fragrances?

    And some more general questions:

    - I have seen some people describe fragrances as "outdated." Are there some specific reasons why fragrances become outdated?

    - What changes do you think will happen in the future about fragrance trends? If you were to guess, what will become popular in the near future?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhangFan View Post
    Thank you! I'm interested in finding more "casual" fragrances, but I don't know how to decide when a fragrance is casual or not. In my hometown, it is very hot and humid, so most people like to wear short sleeves and so on. Do you have some favorite casual fragrances?
    Ummm. I would consider Dior Homme to be a casual. Maybe D&G Light Blue Intense. YSL L'Homme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhangFan View Post
    Do you have some favorite casual fragrances?
    Almost anything I put on with very few exceptions can work as a casual fragrance for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhangFan View Post
    Thank you! I'm interested in finding more "casual" fragrances, but I don't know how to decide when a fragrance is casual or not. In my hometown, it is very hot and humid, so most people like to wear short sleeves and so on. Do you have some favorite casual fragrances?
    Sounds like my hometown, lol. I agree with hednic and wear pretty much anything but I do keep the heavier orientals for evenings when it is cooler. As for the clothes, instead of being one of them I always try to one-up ‘most people’...

    Some of my day time casual-wear favourites:
    Zegna Italian Bergamot
    Ralph Lauren Polo
    Armani Eau Pour Homme
    Bvlgari Pour Homme
    Creed Original Vetiver


    - I have seen some people describe fragrances as "outdated." Are there some specific reasons why fragrances become outdated?
    Restrictions on certain key ingredients for one, turning the fragrance into a relic, a remnant of its time.
    Another possible reason could be attributed to a fragrance trend that had long run its course.
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    Hello everyone, Zhang Fan here. If you don't mind, would you please suggest some other fragrances like L'Eau d'Issey Pour Homme and Calvin Klein CK One? I like this style of fragrance very much. I have seen some people call them "ozonic", but I am not a big fan of the "soapy" ones in this group like Acqua di Gio.

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    Perhaps Franck Boclet Ozone
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