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    Default Caron not in compliance, will be destroying stock soon

    Just a quick note I heard from a a personal


    ”Caron must stop selling many of its fragrances by 10/31; They will not be marking anything down, but clients are buying huge quantities. Stock will be destroyed after 11/1. Staff found out several weeks ago and are just now reaching out to their better clients. Over the long term this will be temporary as the nose will try to reformulate the fragrances but it will take time. There also are at least 4 new fragrances coming out...not sure when.”

    More info later as I’m short on time...
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    If there's truth to this... yikes.
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    Default Re: Caron not in compliance, will be destroying stock soon

    Thank you for the heads up.
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    Default Re: Caron not in compliance, will be destroying stock soon

    if it is true, it demonstrates how hopelessly incompetent Caron is...which is no surprise really.

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    Default Re: Caron not in compliance, will be destroying stock soon

    I don't believe it.

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    Default Re: Caron not in compliance, will be destroying stock soon

    Wonder what, if it is true, specifically wasn’t compliant?
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    Default Re: Caron not in compliance, will be destroying stock soon

    Yay $300 bottles of Pour Un Homme here we come. I hate this hobby sometimes.
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    Default Re: Caron not in compliance, will be destroying stock soon

    Sorry, what is this? Why? Have the fallen foul of the EU or something?

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    Default Re: Caron not in compliance, will be destroying stock soon

    If this is true, and if I were Caron, I'd find some backdoor channel to unload them on the discounters, and then I'd falsify the paperwork to make it look like I had destroyed them.

    Maybe I've been watching too much 'Succession'.

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    Caron is not in compliance with recent EU rules on raw materials an allergens.
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    Makes a certain amount of sense I guess seeing as they/Caron were sold only late last year (to the Rothschilds).
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    Default Re: Caron not in compliance, will be destroying stock soon

    I did just notice a bunch of Caron appear on FragranceNet's "new arrivals" section.... Yatagan and CPUH I believe.
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    Default Re: Caron not in compliance, will be destroying stock soon

    My reaction is the same as thrilledchilled.

    If they were noncompliant and still so bad, it is a sign of exemplary incompetence.

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    Default Re: Caron not in compliance, will be destroying stock soon

    That's a shame. Little experience with this house as I barely explored Caron myself.
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    Default Re: Caron not in compliance, will be destroying stock soon

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bark View Post
    Caron is not in compliance with recent EU rules on raw materials an allergens.
    EU rules or IFRA rules? Have you got any links please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hothamwater View Post
    Nanny State says you can't have .0001% oakmoss in your fragrance, so you'd better comply, or else. What a fucking joke. I'm glad I've still got a full bottle of vintage Yatagan, at least.


    Who knows what is the cause. They could even have been compliant but not properly documented.
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    Default Re: Caron not in compliance, will be destroying stock soon

    Source?
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    Default Re: Caron not in compliance, will be destroying stock soon

    Why not just sell the bottles in nations that don't have those regulations?

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    Default Re: Caron not in compliance, will be destroying stock soon

    Quote Originally Posted by crashtestbrummie View Post
    EU rules or IFRA rules? Have you got any links please?
    IFRA don't set the rules. Quite the opposite - they're there to help perfumers abide by them. The rules are made by countries (or governmental bodies) like the EU. I would imagine it's the EU Caron have fallen foul of rather than, say, the US, but you never know.

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    Default Re: Caron not in compliance, will be destroying stock soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot Crusader View Post
    Yay $300 bottles of Pour Un Homme here we come. I hate this hobby sometimes.
    I don't think PuH ever had enough oak moss to be out of compliance. 3ème Homme and Yatagan, maybe, though both have already been reformulated. Of course, there might be another allergen in play (assuming this single report of anonymous hearsay is true). Maybe the EU is cracking down on vanillin now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jabar View Post


    Who knows what is the cause. They could even have been compliant but not properly documented.


    It was an example. Don't be obtuse. You can continue to think it had to do with documentation. I'll stick to it being an ingredient that has seen further restriction by the nanny state.

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    Interesting..

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    Default Re: Caron not in compliance, will be destroying stock soon

    Quote Originally Posted by PStoller View Post
    I don't think PuH ever had enough oak moss to be out of compliance. 3ème Homme and Yatagan, maybe, though both have already been reformulated. Of course, there might be another allergen in play (assuming this single report of anonymous hearsay is true). Maybe the EU is cracking down on vanillin now.
    Lol you got a point. Anything that doesn't state evernia prunastri doesn't have oakmoss in it anyway, and I don't recall either my PuH or Le 3ême having those on the boxes tbh.
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    I received the info via e-mail; sorry, no link. I can take a screenshot later and post it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hothamwater View Post


    It was an example. Don't be obtuse. You can continue to think it had to do with documentation. I'll stick to it being an ingredient that has seen further restriction by the nanny state.
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    Isn't there a restriction on eugenol (carnation) ?

    Could be the reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanillaCloud View Post
    Isn't there a restriction on eugenol (carnation) ?
    Maybe.

    There's a different oakmoss deadline taking effect, as well as new rule about lyral and lilial, which are widely utilized in floral compositions.

    See Sarah McCartney talking about IFRA here at 39:20. She mentions these developments:

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    Default Re: Caron not in compliance, will be destroying stock soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Brooks Otterlake View Post
    Maybe.

    There's a different oakmoss deadline taking effect, as well as new rule about lyral and lilial, which are widely utilized in floral compositions.

    See Sarah McCartney talking about IFRA here at 39:20. She mentions these developments:

    There is a lot of good stuff in this video.
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    RIP Caron




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