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    Default Thoughts on the Dior "parfum" flankers

    There are three :
    Fahrenheit
    Eau sauvage
    Dior Homme
    So they have a new in house perfumer who wants to twiddle around with them..
    Ok fair enough. They don't seem to be getting alot of praise however.
    Why doesn't Dior release parfum versions of the original formulas instead of tweaking
    them around to someone elses liking???
    Fahrenheit parfum is too different when compared to the original. And Dior Homne was perfect in 2005 untill they watered it down.
    It's frustrating because Dior can obviously make stronger "versions" of the classics but they don't want to make stronger versions of the existing formulas.
    I think these flankers are misleading as well.
    When you buy a bottle of Dior homme parfum you think that you are getting a stronger version of the original not a very different fragrance.
    What are your thoughts on the parfum versions??
    I was also wondering if Dior Homme parfum has been axed..i only saw the intense version at the department store yesterday...

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    Default Re: Thoughts on the Dior "parfum" flankers

    I do understand the sentiment though, and wish they had true flanker names instead of different named concentrations. Dior Homme Noir or something like that would seem appropriate. As for the scents themselves, I enjoy their parfum takes on their fragrances (besides Sauvage). They all seem to be fairly thick and full bodied. They all seem well regarded as well to me.
    Itís tragic to think that heroic manís great destiny is to become economic man, that men will be reduced to craven creatures who crawl across the globe competing for money, who spend their nights dreaming up new ways to swindle each other.

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    Default Re: Thoughts on the Dior "parfum" flankers

    4. Sauvage Parfum

    Own and like a lot the ESP and DHP.
    My Top '11' of main current rotation in no particular order:

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    - SA: Shaghaf Oud Abyad
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    Default Re: Thoughts on the Dior "parfum" flankers

    Fahrenheit Parfum is my choice. I love the stuff. Funnily enough I get a strong connection to the original which I have owned in all its various formulations. The truth is that I want there to be noticeable differences otherwise there is no point for me to own it. DHP is a great creation that I have a lot of respect for but it doesn't wear well on my skin. It's far too stuffy. I don't really care for ESP. Just not my thing!
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    Default Re: Thoughts on the Dior "parfum" flankers

    I agree they are big changes from the originals, Fahrenheit parfum develops in a way that makes it more like regular Fahrenheit. Dior Homme Parfum has a light oud note that makes it different than Dior Homme and Dior Homme Intense. I like it. Eau Sauvage Parfum is not to my taste, and scares me.

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    Default Re: Thoughts on the Dior "parfum" flankers

    Making a stronger version of the originals might be a challenge given current regulations so whilst a higher concentration would be possible I’m not sure the note structure as we perceive it would stay intact. Stuff like Eau Sauvage would likely lose its herbaceous citrus top/middle note clarity and given its already lacking oakmoss/hedione it might not fair very well. I would love to have original Eau Sauvage in extrait though.
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    Pour Monsieur EdT by Chanel
    Eau Sauvage (vtg) by Christian Dior
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    Default Re: Thoughts on the Dior "parfum" flankers

    I personally love all the Parfum versions.
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    Default Re: Thoughts on the Dior "parfum" flankers

    1. Fahrenheit Parfum - really good stuff.
    2. Dior Homme Parfum - I prefer the original
    3. Eau Sauvage Parfum - I prefer this to the original, but neither ended up being keepers for me
    5. Sauvage Parfum - the fragrance fail amongst the four.
    Itís tragic to think that heroic manís great destiny is to become economic man, that men will be reduced to craven creatures who crawl across the globe competing for money, who spend their nights dreaming up new ways to swindle each other.

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    1. eau sauvage parfum 2012 - excellent take on the original and percfect for fall & winter
    2. eau sauvage parfum 2017 - pretty good reformulation and great for spring
    3. dior homme parfum - the best in the dior homme line up imo
    4. fahrenheit parfum- warm and boozy take on the original, i really like it.
    5. sauvage parfum - haven't tried it and don't intend to.
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    Default Re: Thoughts on the Dior "parfum" flankers

    I haven't tried the Fahrenheit Parfum, but the others I prefer above their original EDTs.
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    Default Re: Thoughts on the Dior "parfum" flankers

    Eau Sauvage Parfum 2012 - nice stuff wish it wasn’t discontinued they need a good masculine.

    Dior Homme Parfum - excellent stuff but limited to when one would wear it Ultra classy!

    Sauvage Parfum - smelled it briefly on a test stripe wasn’t wowed or drawn to it seems like a wasted opportunity imo.

    Fahrenheit Parfum - I smelled briefly when I had a bottle a few years ago I recall it being excellent stuff.

    I currently own Dior Homme EDT 2018 bottle and don’t feel it’s been watered down, notes may be slightly different but it’s excellent in my opinion in smell and performance.
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    Default Re: Thoughts on the Dior "parfum" flankers

    Quote Originally Posted by hednic View Post
    I personally love all the Parfum versions.
    Same here
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    Quote Originally Posted by speckmann0706 View Post
    I currently own Dior Homme EDT 2018 bottle and don’t feel it’s been watered down, notes may be slightly different but it’s excellent in my opinion in smell and performance.
    You're right, it is more accurate to say that it has been altered to suit more mainstream tastes and I think it has been made more "masculine" than Hedi Slimane & Olivier Polge's original intention.

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    Default Re: Thoughts on the Dior "parfum" flankers

    Eau Sauvage Parfum (2012) is sublime.
    The 2017 version is very very good.
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    Default Re: Thoughts on the Dior "parfum" flankers

    I agree that parfum isn't the right word, they're different. But once one ignores the word parfum, I don't see the problem with making flankers. Added bonus, they usually keep the original version rather than axing it.

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    Default Re: Thoughts on the Dior "parfum" flankers

    Fahrenheit – Disaster, the EDT is my most worn cologne ever.

    Eau sauvage – Both versions are very good

    Dior Homme – Masterpiece, I cannot stand the original 2005 EDT, and it is very different fragrance compare to the original EDT. The parfum is all about Rose, oud and leather with amazing sandalwood note in the back. The original smell like nasty lipstick in grandma purse with cacao powder all over.
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    Default Re: Thoughts on the Dior "parfum" flankers

    Well i tried the fahrenheit parfum and yes it would be a great fragrance to wear this winter...
    But i think i'd rather just get the original.
    Both are really good though.
    Ii will have to try Dior homme parfum
    The intense version is really nice has a smoky vibe to it...

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    Default Re: Thoughts on the Dior "parfum" flankers

    Yes i know there is a sauvage parfum but i didn't add it because i feel it's too close to the original so it doesn't seem like a flanker to me.
    I tried it today and i thought the drydown was very very nice but it didn't seem very potent. It was only one spray so i can't be 100% sure.

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    DHP, FP, and ESP are three of my all-time favorite frags. Masterpieces, all.

    Demachy is a freakin' wizard - among the best perfumers of all time IMO - and those three releases are his best IMO. I'm not a big Fahrenheit fan, but I adore Fahrenheit Parfum. Top 5 all time for me. Similarly, I hate Dior Homme, its too feminine for me, I hate the lipstick vibe, etc. But I adore Dior Homme Parfum. LOVE it. One of the very best colder weather men's scents there is. Can't stand Sauvage but I love Eau Sauvage Parfum, not as much as DHP or FP, but ESP is more versatile than either of those other two, and is just a beautiful timeless classic.

    I frequently talk about the "Dior Parfum Trifecta" as the best there is, and those three make the house of Dior my favorite house.

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    Eau Sauvage Parfum - One of my absolute favorites. Unique, versatile and long lasting. I prefer 2017 over 2012, own both.

    Dior Homme Parfum - Very nice but somehow It just doesnít suit me.

    Fahrenheit Parfum - I simply just donít enjoy the way this smells. The quality is certainly there though.

    Sauvage Parfum - Only tried it briefly but wasnít bad. A bit boring perhaps. Will try it again later.

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    Default Re: Thoughts on the Dior "parfum" flankers

    I like the Dior Homme and Eau Sauvage Parfums (both versions) but the Fahrenheit and Sauvage Parfums are not great IMO.
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    Default Re: Thoughts on the Dior "parfum" flankers

    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Joe View Post
    DHP, FP, and ESP are three of my all-time favorite frags. Masterpieces, all.

    Demachy is a freakin' wizard - among the best perfumers of all time IMO - and those three releases are his best IMO. I'm not a big Fahrenheit fan, but I adore Fahrenheit Parfum. Top 5 all time for me. Similarly, I hate Dior Homme, its too feminine for me, I hate the lipstick vibe, etc. But I adore Dior Homme Parfum. LOVE it. One of the very best colder weather men's scents there is. Can't stand Sauvage but I love Eau Sauvage Parfum, not as much as DHP or FP, but ESP is more versatile than either of those other two, and is just a beautiful timeless classic.

    I frequently talk about the "Dior Parfum Trifecta" as the best there is, and those three make the house of Dior my favorite house.
    You hit the nail on the head. Totally agree.
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    Default Re: Thoughts on the Dior "parfum" flankers

    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Joe View Post
    DHP, FP, and ESP are three of my all-time favorite frags. Masterpieces, all.

    Demachy is a freakin' wizard - among the best perfumers of all time IMO - and those three releases are his best IMO. I'm not a big Fahrenheit fan, but I adore Fahrenheit Parfum. Top 5 all time for me. Similarly, I hate Dior Homme, its too feminine for me, I hate the lipstick vibe, etc. But I adore Dior Homme Parfum. LOVE it. One of the very best colder weather men's scents there is. Can't stand Sauvage but I love Eau Sauvage Parfum, not as much as DHP or FP, but ESP is more versatile than either of those other two, and is just a beautiful timeless classic.

    I frequently talk about the "Dior Parfum Trifecta" as the best there is, and those three make the house of Dior my favorite house.
    The three you mention are favourites of mine. DHP could quite easily be my signature if I wasn't worried about it being discontinued - I don't find it as formal or dressy or whatever as others do. ESP2012 could easily become a signature too.

    I also like the originals and other flankers of thoses line though - at least with the ones I've tried.

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    Apart from Sauvage Parfum (and even in this case, might like this a bit more than the regular Sauvage), always considered Eau Sauvage, Dior Homme and Fahrenheit in the respective Parfum flankers/versions of each almost standalone masterpieces, both as actual scents and also due to good performances gotten from each
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    Default Re: Thoughts on the Dior "parfum" flankers

    In the case of fahrenheit parfum i like both but i prefer
    the original it is an undeniable classic. Strangely the parfum version which has vanilla works and makes it more modern for today.
    In need to try eau sauvage parfum i haven't seen a tester anywhere.




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