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    Default Is there anything closer to Rive Gauche than Azzaro PH?

    From all that Iíve read, RG should be my ultimate scent. I love everything barber shop, the shave cream and powder, the whole experience. I own Azzaro PH and Lalique PH, and dozens of barber shop style aftershaves. But is there a fragrance thatís even closer to RG than Azzaro PH? RG is getting so costly and I still havenít gotten my nose on it. If I could get something closer I would definitely try it.

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    Default Re: Is there anything closer to Rive Gauche than Azzaro PH?

    I think Pascal Morabito Or Black (2014) is as close, if not closer.
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    Look into Fine Accoutrements American Blend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooks Otterlake View Post
    Look into Fine Accoutrements American Blend.
    That’s definitely on my list.. there’s a barber shop in my area that carries that brand.

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    Default Re: Is there anything closer to Rive Gauche than Azzaro PH?

    Penhaligons Douro or the original Lords was pretty close ---

    The 3rd Man is a good substitute also

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    Default Re: Is there anything closer to Rive Gauche than Azzaro PH?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buysblind View Post
    I think Pascal Morabito Or Black (2014) is as close, if not closer.
    Agree. Also, better. I just never quite got along with RG, though I like the style. I kept smelling a plastic layer that apparently nobody else detects. Oh well!

    Strange that anise isn't listed in the Or Black BN pyramid. It's definitely there. No clove, though, which RG features quite prominently.

    Buysblind, I do believe you have my old RG tin!
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    Default Re: Is there anything closer to Rive Gauche than Azzaro PH?

    I love Azzaro but I don't care for Rive Gauche: how close can you get!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveJazz View Post

    Buysblind, I do believe you have my old RG tin!

    You are correct Sir, but HAD would be the appropriate verb tense.

    It's now in the hands of another fine Basenoter (whose name I can't remember at the moment).

    Such is the cycle among olfactive sluts.
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    Default Re: Is there anything closer to Rive Gauche than Azzaro PH?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buysblind View Post
    I think Pascal Morabito Or Black (2014) is as close, if not closer.
    Have a few from this house on my watch list they seem solid according to reviews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speckmann0706 View Post
    Have a few from this house on my watch list they seem solid according to reviews.
    I would caution against any other besides Or Black.
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    Default Re: Is there anything closer to Rive Gauche than Azzaro PH?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buysblind View Post
    I would caution against any other besides Or Black.
    Or Night, Black Agent or Red Amber any good?

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    Default Re: Is there anything closer to Rive Gauche than Azzaro PH?

    Possibly also, to certain varying extents:

    Aramis Tuscany, Sartorial, l'Erbolario Assenzio

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    Default Re: Is there anything closer to Rive Gauche than Azzaro PH?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buysblind View Post
    I would caution against any other besides Or Black.
    Quote Originally Posted by speckmann0706 View Post
    Or Night, Black Agent or Red Amber any good?
    M de Morabito also has a good reputation. The opinions I’ve read on the other masculines are more mixed. I haven’t yet nosed them myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by speckmann0706 View Post
    Or Night, Black Agent or Red Amber any good?
    None of these scents are bad, but where you're at in your fragrance journey I'd imagine you're looking for stuff that really stands out and either fills a gap in your wardrobe or provides such a good quality that it's among the best in its genre.

    Red Amber is a sweet, warm fragrance. It has a pleasantly spicy bubble-gum like accord that's warm and somewhat restrained in comparison to other fragrances that incorporate similar sweet "bubllegum" accords. It's pleasant enough to throw on now and then but it really does nothing in terms of standing out or providing a memorable experience. It's just kind of generic and unimpressive, despite being pleasant. Not worth adding, in my opinion, but it wouldn't make a bad gift or something if you gave it to a young guy who was just starting building a wardrobe or whatever. But where you're at--not worth it. Very mediocre. Performance is on the moderate, restrained side. I don't know if you've ever smelled Vince Camuto Terra. In some ways it reminds me of that, in terms of its sweetness and performance, but it's warmer. 6/10

    Or Night is actually pretty good, and if you can get it for a cheap price and don't already own something like it, it's a good choice for filing a hole in your wardrobe. It's like a "date night" type of fragrance with some brighter, fruity-sweet notes blended in the top (no one fruit specifically, just kind of a blend) over darker woods, particularly cedar, and some pleasant, cinnamon induced spiciness. It's really nice, actually, even if the performance is somewhat middling. It's reserved, but present nonetheless. Overall, it's pretty smooth as well. But it's a very familiar feeling. La Nuit, Armani Code...scents like that...smooth, semi-sweet woody-spicy date frags. So this one's not a bad choice. 8/10

    Black Agent: I don't like these types of fragrances. It reminds me of a softer Bentley Absolute with tea notes. It's dry, cedar-centric (so I get that pencil shavings note), and it really gets soft once it dries down. The best part is its opening, when it smells somewhat interesting and kind of like Spicebomb, but after that I find it pretty boring. You could do much better with Carbon de Balmain, Bentley Absolute (at least it lasts and projects), or if you wanted to go in a more "serious' direction, Lalique Ombre Noire. And if you really wanted this dusty, resinous pencil shavings smell at its best, spend the extra cash and get a vintage bottle of Gucci Pour Homme. 6.5/10
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    Default Re: Is there anything closer to Rive Gauche than Azzaro PH?

    Some have likened Tom Ford Beau De Jour as a more refined Rive Gauche on another thread. I've only smelled the former though and really like it.
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    I couldn't say of others - yet I do find Azzaro very similar in overall nose-thetic(!) effect- a bit louder and rougher round the egdes ( until dry down) and definitley has more clout. Recent wearing of RG - found it 'cautious' in performance. Not so long ago I thought I'd mixed up my labelling (atomisers) when wearing Azzaro, thinking "hey is this RG?!"

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    Default Re: Is there anything closer to Rive Gauche than Azzaro PH?

    Replica at the Barber's is a newer type barbershop gem that you may enjoy. The longevity isn't as long as RG and APH, but you will in for a smooth ride.
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    Default Re: Is there anything closer to Rive Gauche than Azzaro PH?

    Beau de Jour is similar, but you have to wait a bit for the new release to be available everywhere.

    Edit: It is perhaps just as expensive, if not more.
    Currently wearing: New West for Him by Aramis

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    I am with you on liking the barbershop scents. I would love to try Rive Gauche as well. Although that price point is unrealistic. I am a big fan of Prada Luna Rossa Carbon. I see a lot of people compare it to Sauvage. I see the notes are pretty close. Although they seem to have different vibes. I think LRC is calm and mellow while Suavage is loud and in your face.

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    Default Re: Is there anything closer to Rive Gauche than Azzaro PH?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buysblind View Post
    I think Pascal Morabito Or Black (2014) is as close, if not closer.
    for me there is absolutely nothing similar between Or Black and Rive Gauche 2 totally different frags.
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    Default Re: Is there anything closer to Rive Gauche than Azzaro PH?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buysblind View Post
    I think Pascal Morabito Or Black (2014) is as close, if not closer.
    This.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter4ptv View Post
    for me there is absolutely nothing similar between Or Black and Rive Gauche 2 totally different frags.
    Well, you need to reexamine them then, peter.
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    Default Re: Is there anything closer to Rive Gauche than Azzaro PH?

    Brut puts across the same olfactory idea as Rive Gauche PH sharing many notes and using others which are similar. In some ways its closer than Azzaro PH and in others its not.
    A few favourites

    Bois du Portugal by Creed
    Aventus by Creed
    Jubilation Man by Amouage
    Mousse Illuminee by Rogue Perfumery
    Incident Diplomatique by Jovoy
    Patchouli Nobile by Nobile 1942
    Pour Monsieur EdT by Chanel
    Eau Sauvage (vtg) by Christian Dior
    Eucris EdP by GF Trumper
    Polo (Cosmair) by Ralph Lauren

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    Default Re: Is there anything closer to Rive Gauche than Azzaro PH?

    Rive Gauche Pour Homme has this sharp, green accord to it that neither Azzaro Pour Homme (current), MMM - At the Barber's, or even Penhaligon's Sartorial have.

    It's almost coniferous. Not "piney" like Drakkar Noir.

    Fine Accoutrements American Blend nails it with the soap, but not so much with the aftershave. That aftershave is some awful stuff, by the way, and not worth $20/bottle.

    You should still be able to get a decant from a commercial decant service.
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    Default Re: Is there anything closer to Rive Gauche than Azzaro PH?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buysblind View Post
    Well, you need to reexamine them then, peter.
    right now i have both left and right hand, totally different.
    i have brut in glass spray bottle from mid 80s that is the closest think to Rive Gauche just much more sharper at the opening, but still Rive Gauche much better very smooth and long lasting barbershop frag.
    i also do not find any similarity between Rive Gauche and Azzaro, maybe just a very little.
    but no way or balck to be similar to Rive Gauche absolutely zero similarity .
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    Lol I went in for a blind buy of FA's American Blend EDT! Hope its a fine way to bow out on the 31st with a final 'what I sampled today for the first time'

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    Default Re: Is there anything closer to Rive Gauche than Azzaro PH?

    So far I've read that Rive Gauche has similarities to Azzaro Pour Homme, Brut, Drakkar Noir, Taxi, Paco Rabanne Pour Homme, and Barbasol shaving cream.

    I've heard that Azzaro Pour Homme L'eau is supposed to be similar to Rive Gauche, but I think it's a possibility that it just smells like original Azzaro PH in the dry down, and that itself smells like RG. I don't want to blind buy L'eau just to get APH again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterGrain View Post
    Rive Gauche Pour Homme has this sharp, green accord to it that neither Azzaro Pour Homme (current), MMM - At the Barber's, or even Penhaligon's Sartorial have.

    It's almost coniferous. Not "piney" like Drakkar Noir.

    Fine Accoutrements American Blend nails it with the soap, but not so much with the aftershave. That aftershave is some awful stuff, by the way, and not worth $20/bottle.

    You should still be able to get a decant from a commercial decant service.
    Well I don’t *need* any shaving soap now but when I have I ever let THAT stop me! ��

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    Default Re: Is there anything closer to Rive Gauche than Azzaro PH?

    Quote Originally Posted by peter4ptv View Post
    for me there is absolutely nothing similar between Or Black and Rive Gauche 2 totally different frags.
    I agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buysblind View Post
    Well, you need to reexamine them then, peter.
    I'll have re-examine them too. They both spray out of a bottle, but the similarities end there for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by MisterGrain View Post
    Fine Accoutrements American Blend nails it with the soap, but not so much with the aftershave. That aftershave is some awful stuff, by the way, and not worth $20/bottle.
    Yes, the soap smells very close (too weak of a smell for me though.) I haven't tried the after shave lotion, but the balm is definitely crap.
    Currently wearing: Endymion by Penhaligon's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangkok Hound View Post
    I agree.



    I'll have re-examine them too. They both spray out of a bottle, but the similarities end there for me.



    Yes, the soap smells very close (too weak of a smell for me though.) I haven't tried the after shave lotion, but the balm is definitely crap.

    Just wondering...

    Are you comparing it to the original Or Black released in 1981 or the re-issue in 2014? One thing I’ve noticed about reading reactions/reviews to the two is that they’re interpreted very differently. The original is often referred to as extremely dark, like motor oil, with deep leathery tones and much more ‘rugged’ overall. The 2014 version is often described as more anisic, shaving cream-like, and a sparkling dark emerald green. Of course there’s also the argument of those who swear they’re identical and those who claim they’re nothing alike, but there seems to be disparity between the two based on general consensus.

    I mention this because if you’re thinking of the original version then it could very well be the reason you and peter find no similarity between it and Rive Gauche, and why I do (because I’m referring to the 2014 release). In the case that you (and peter) are indeed referring to the 2014 version, well, I guess we’re just at odds then. But I stand by my original statement that there is a definite connection between the two—mainly a similar anisic shaving foam accord that plays a central role in each.
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