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    Default Warm and cold weather niche fragrances

    Hey all been enjoying fragrances for some time and have mainly been in the designer fragrance realm.
    Iíve taken some time off the fragrance world and have been mainly using Dior Homme and Spicebomb for the most part until recently.
    For the holidays Iíve picked up my first few niche fragrances, Creed Aventus and GIT. Also picked up MI for my wife after she tried it and liked the scent very much.

    I find the Aventus and GIT to be pretty versatile fragrances I can use year round and thatís always something that I like.

    After that dug deeper into some niche fragrances and decided to buy some samples and discovery sets. I ordered samples from Creed, Xerjoff, MFK, and PdM.

    For a warm weather scent right now Iím leaning towards Nio or Uden. I just found Uden to disappear quickly but I still have to do more testing.

    For a cold weather scent Iím between Herod and Naxos. I know Naxos gets compared a lot to PH but i find it to be tremendously smooth and have great performance. Herod seems great also but found it to dry down rather quickly into a creamy vanilla scent.


    Performance and longevity are pretty important in whichever I choose. More so in a warm weather scent.

    Wanted to see some input from you guys and anything else you might recommend. Thanks in advance !

    P.S. do you find the dry downs between Uden and Naxos too similar ?

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    Really like having a tobacco scent for the cold weather to add to my collection. Some say Naxos is too sweet but after opening it settles down a bit in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony8959 View Post
    I find the Aventus and GIT to be pretty versatile fragrances I can use year round and that’s always something that I like.
    Feel the same way.
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    I really like Musc Ravageur and Patchouli 24 in cooler weather. I've also really fallen for Akro Dark.

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    Most of the XJ and Shooting Stars line, the latter including Uden and Nio as well by Xerjoff can be easily worn in both cold and warm weather, as they cover some of the most versatile, clean, fresh niche notes.
    Same situation with most of the ADP Colonia line, Creed OV, the TF Neroli Portofino line, Knize Forest, most of the Hugh Parsons fragrances, a few options by Frederic Malle, including but not limited to Geranium pour Monsieur successfully represent the idea of all weather niche at its (or their) finest.
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    Many think Dasein Winter may suit cold-weather wear because it smells of evergreens, but I found it the ideal hot-weather choice for a cooling feel, and it's umpteen times longer lasting than citrusy scents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken_Russell View Post
    Most of the XJ and Shooting Stars line, the latter including Uden and Nio as well by Xerjoff can be easily worn in both cold and warm weather, as they cover some of the most versatile, clean, fresh niche notes.
    Same situation with most of the ADP Colonia line, Creed OV, the TF Neroli Portofino line, Knize Forest, most of the Hugh Parsons fragrances, a few options by Frederic Malle, including but not limited to Geranium pour Monsieur successfully represent the idea of all weather niche at its (or their) finest.
    Creed OV is another great scent. I don’t see much written about performance or longevity with that or Uden. I know everyone says Nio is beast though. How is your experience with those frags? Which would you choose of those 3?

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    Nio and Naxos from those you're considering. They're both top of the line, excellent fragrances. Can't go wrong, imo.


    And here are a few recommendations for each category of stuff you might want to check out at some point:

    Warm Weather:

    Menthe Fraiche
    Sel Marin
    L'Humaniste
    Eau Radieuse (kind of hard to find right now, but worth it if you can find it)

    Cold Weather:

    Jubilation
    Yves Saint Laurent Tuxedo
    Royal Oud
    Oud for Greatness
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    You got some nice niche fragrances to start out with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buysblind View Post
    Nio and Naxos from those you're considering. They're both top of the line, excellent fragrances. Can't go wrong, imo.


    And here are a few recommendations for each category of stuff you might want to check out at some point:

    Warm Weather:

    Menthe Fraiche
    Sel Marin
    L'Humaniste
    Eau Radieuse (kind of hard to find right now, but worth it if you can find it)

    Cold Weather:

    Jubilation
    Yves Saint Laurent Tuxedo
    Royal Oud
    Oud for Greatness
    That’s what I’m thinking right now. Really like the offerings of Xerjoff from what I sampled. Some say Naxos is too sweet or leans feminine do you see that ?

    As far as others you listed I really like Royal Oud, but my wife said I smelled like a church lol. Haven’t tried others

    Quote Originally Posted by sjg3839 View Post
    You got some nice niche fragrances to start out with.
    Thank you ! I really enjoy them

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    I have not tried the Xerjoff so not sure about their longevity and projection. In general, citrus based perfumes tend to be fleeting, so it's always a problem with fresh perfumes. Fresh materials that tend to last longer are vetiver and aquatics.

    Anyway, some niche suggestions that are not too difficult to find and last very well:
    For cold weather: seconding Le Labo Patchouli 24. And for tobacco Lutens Fumerie Turque.
    For warm weather: Malle Vetiver extraordinaire or Chanel Sycomore (both vetivers).

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    Thanks for the info ! I’ll have to look into those

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    These would be my suggestions Ė


    Warm Weather:

    Sel Marin
    Aqua Viva Forte
    Xerjoff Fiero


    Cool Weather:

    New York Intense
    Itasca
    Vetiver Extraordinaire
    Menthe Fraiche
    Musc Ravageur
    Cuir Cannage / Cuir Mauresque
    Ormonde Man
    Christopher Street
    Noir Epices


    Cold Weather:

    Tuscan Leather
    Ex Idolo Thirty-Three
    Ambre Sultan
    Chergui
    Dries Van Noten
    Oud Palao

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    Quote Originally Posted by freewheelingvagabond View Post
    These would be my suggestions –


    Warm Weather:

    Sel Marin
    Aqua Viva Forte
    Xerjoff Fiero


    Cool Weather:

    New York Intense
    Itasca
    Vetiver Extraordinaire
    Menthe Fraiche
    Musc Ravageur
    Cuir Cannage / Cuir Mauresque
    Ormonde Man
    Christopher Street
    Noir Epices


    Cold Weather:

    Tuscan Leather
    Ex Idolo Thirty-Three
    Ambre Sultan
    Chergui
    Dries Van Noten
    Oud Palao
    Thanks for the very thorough list!

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    If I ended up going with Uden and Naxos would these two be too similar in the dry downs?

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    I haven't tried either Uden or Naxos, so unfortunately can't help there.

    I forgot one very long-lasting fresh fragrance - Acqua di Sale by Profumum.

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    Default Re: Warm and cold weather niche fragrances

    Quote Originally Posted by freewheelingvagabond View Post
    These would be my suggestions –


    Warm Weather:

    Sel Marin
    Aqua Viva Forte
    Xerjoff Fiero


    Cool Weather:

    New York Intense
    Itasca
    Vetiver Extraordinaire
    Menthe Fraiche
    Musc Ravageur
    Cuir Cannage / Cuir Mauresque
    Ormonde Man
    Christopher Street
    Noir Epices


    Cold Weather:

    Tuscan Leather
    Ex Idolo Thirty-Three
    Ambre Sultan
    Chergui
    Dries Van Noten
    Oud Palao
    That's a good list

    For warm weather I'd add Xerjoff Nio and 1861 Renaissance as well as Creed Millesime Imperial and Virgin Island Water

    For cold weather I'd add Guerlain Spiritueusue Double Vanille, Tonka Imperiale, Tom Ford Amber Absolute, and Dior Feve Delicieuse
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    Uden and Naxos are quite different. I like to think of Uden being the niche interpretation of Chanel’s Allure Homme while Naxos is famous for being the niche version of Pure Havane. Both are exceptional fragrances. Own both and love them!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidmetal24 View Post
    Uden and Naxos are quite different. I like to think of Uden being the niche interpretation of Chanel’s Allure Homme while Naxos is famous for being the niche version of Pure Havane. Both are exceptional fragrances. Own both and love them!!!
    Ok thanks for the input ! Right now I have my two choices down to Nio vs Uden and Naxos vs Herod. Leaning towards the Uden/Naxos combo. I just thought I detected a similar dry down when I first tested but I could be wrong I’ll do another try today. I also seemed to not be able to detect Uden on myself after a few hours. Not sure if it was still there and I just went nose blind. Many seem to say they get great performance out of it. Upon testing Naxos and Nio gave me the best performance. Herod was decent also.

    Uden overdose is a newer frag which with the tobacco seems really interesting. Something I will have to get my nose on to check out. Not sure if there’s any similarities to others in their line or anything else out there.

    Anyone have experience with it ?

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    Just a word of caution: sample extensively, don't blind buy niche. I would consider comparing against designer similars, like Naxos/A*Men Pure Havane, before plopping down big money.

    You might be surprised how few niche scents offer something unique over designers.

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    Haven’t sampled Uden Overdose but from what I gather from reviews is it’s just a more intense version of the original. I think the combo is go with is Uden/Naxos. My wife says Herod smells like the bottom of an old lady’s purse. Herod was just a little too much on the tobacco for me. I’d take Naxos which in my opinion is smoother and more crowd friendly any day of the week. Can’t say I totally agree but if you love a harsher tobacco then Herod might be up your alley. My experience with Nio is that I had it but sold it. This was a blind guy and I followed the hype. Two fresher notes I don’t like are neroli and vetiver. That did Nio in for me. All of the fragrances mentioned are exceptionally blended and smell of quality. It’s more in what you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabar View Post
    Just a word of caution: sample extensively, don't blind buy niche. I would consider comparing against designer similars, like Naxos/A*Men Pure Havane, before plopping down big money.

    You might be surprised how few niche scents offer something unique over designers.
    Absolutely that’s great advice. For the premium you definitely want something unique. I would also never blind buy in this price range. So I’m doing a lot of sampling

    Quote Originally Posted by kidmetal24 View Post
    Haven’t sampled Uden Overdose but from what I gather from reviews is it’s just a more intense version of the original. I think the combo is go with is Uden/Naxos. My wife says Herod smells like the bottom of an old lady’s purse. Herod was just a little too much on the tobacco for me. I’d take Naxos which in my opinion is smoother and more crowd friendly any day of the week. Can’t say I totally agree but if you love a harsher tobacco then Herod might be up your alley. My experience with Nio is that I had it but sold it. This was a blind guy and I followed the hype. Two fresher notes I don’t like are neroli and vetiver. That did Nio in for me. All of the fragrances mentioned are exceptionally blended and smell of quality. It’s more in what you like.
    Nio is a bit more earthy. Uden is definitely more pleasant for sure, just feel like after a couple hours I can’t smell it at all and don’t think it’s projecting well on me at all. I also agree with what you’re saying about Naxos and Herod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony8959 View Post
    Creed OV is another great scent. I don’t see much written about performance or longevity with that or Uden. I know everyone says Nio is beast though. How is your experience with those frags? Which would you choose of those 3?

    Personally, must admit having very good and fairly equally ranking longevity and performance from all these 3. If having to rate and choose based on performance alone, would probably not be able to decide between these three and would probably save up for smaller bottles or even just decants of each.
    Uden may indeed give an impression of lasting and projecting a bit less than OV and Nio, but only because it becomes a bit more discreet during its final hours of development and while/after drying down staying closer to the skin, without however being a minimally projecting, almost neutrally smelling skin scent, rather a moderately projecting one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken_Russell View Post
    Personally, must admit having very good and fairly equally ranking longevity and performance from all these 3. If having to rate and choose based on performance alone, would probably not be able to decide between these three and would probably save up for smaller bottles or even just decants of each.
    Uden may indeed give an impression of lasting and projecting a bit less than OV and Nio, but only because it becomes a bit more discreet during its final hours of development and while/after drying down staying closer to the skin, without however being a minimally projecting, almost neutrally smelling skin scent, rather a moderately projecting one.
    Thanks for the thorough input !

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    As I mentioned earlier after doing more testing as I’m still leaning towards the Naxos and Nio combo to add to my GIT and Aventus Niche collection. Layton and Herod are also coming in pretty close to changing my mind. I’m partially considering foregoing Nio since it’ll be strictly a Summer Frag (NYC), and picking up Layton and Naxos. There’s definitely a lot of versatility with Layton but not sure if some of the notes play too close to Naxos.

    Still really like Uden, but it’s barely detectable to me after application.

    I’m trying to keep this collection rather small so I want to cover all the bases. So nothing too repetitive in the collection.

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    Have you tried Creed Viking? It can be used all year round and I would say it is as versatile as king aventus, if not more. Besides, It is different enough from the ones in your current 3-creed collection (Aventus, GIT, MI)

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    Quote Originally Posted by aquarel View Post
    Have you tried Creed Viking? It can be used all year round and I would say it is as versatile as king aventus, if not more. Besides, It is different enough from the ones in your current 3-creed collection (Aventus, GIT, MI)
    I have tried Viking and I do like certain aspects of it, but there was something that stood out through course of wearing (clove?) that bothered me a bit. I have to do a couple more wears. Original Santal was also nice and got great performance but didn’t find anything special about it.




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