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    Hey guys, hope you're doing well!

    Recently I've come across a perfume doubt; when I speak about perfume I generally refer to eau de toilette, eau de parum and parfum indistinctly. However, as you certanly know there is a huge difference!
    Do you have all these different types? If yes, how do you differenciate among them? I mean, when you wear one of these how do you decide one rather than the other?

    Thanks a lot for the answers, maybe I'll become capable of choosing the right perfume for each moment!

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    I buy the concentration I like most if more than one is available in a particular scent.

    I don't reserve certain concentrations for certain moments.

    It's really not that difficult or complicated. Don't overthink it.

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    Oh I see, thank you! But how do you decide which concentration (and so type of perfume) to wear? I mean baseing your decisions on which charateristichs?

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    I decide what to wear based on the smell of the fragrance, not the concentration.

    Again, stop overcomplicating it.

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    Default Re: Eau de toilette, eau de parfum or parfum?

    This is a good question for a thread, and something I've given some thought.

    The option for multiple concentrations comes up more often with women's perfume.

    For men's perfume, it's not as common, and the way ultravisitor dismisses it as a non-issue is about right. Take Bleu de Chanel, which has three concentrations - they're quite different from each other. They're like three different perfumes, and it's not hard to detect differences and have a clear preference.

    With vintage Chanel No. 19, I'm all mixed up. It can depend on the year, etc. A good bottle is a good bottle - edc, edt, edp, parfum - if it smells good, it is good. There is a lot of hype about parfum concentrations, especially from manufacturers who like to send the price per ml through the roof. Sometimes they are slightly better, but I still like a 100-ml spray bottle, or a 45 or 50-ml spray bottle, way more than a 15-ml splash.

    It's a lot of fun with a favorite fragrance to have a couple different concentrations - an edt to wear all the time, and a parfum to add on top for nights out, for example. If I can only have one, though, I would want a big spray bottle of an edc, edt, or edp - usually edt, for my tastes.

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    As Bavard was saying, for modern masculines, edt/edp/parfum are really meant to be different, like flankers, so the smell profile is different. For traditional feminines, as Bavard was saying, the differences are subtle. given the high cost of parfum, I usually don't wear that, but I have been splurging for some perfumes (like Cuir de Russie or Bois des Isles). Between edt and edp, it depends, but often I prefer the lighter feel of the edt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boperfume View Post
    Hey guys, hope you're doing well!

    Recently I've come across a perfume doubt; when I speak about perfume I generally refer to eau de toilette, eau de parum and parfum indistinctly. However, as you certanly know there is a huge difference!
    Do you have all these different types? If yes, how do you differenciate among them? I mean, when you wear one of these how do you decide one rather than the other?

    Thanks a lot for the answers, maybe I'll become capable of choosing the right perfume for each moment!
    As it's been said, just focus on which scent smells the best to you. It will be different for all of them as to which you prefer. With Polo Blue, you may prefer the EDP. With Blue de Chanel, you may choose the EDT. Don't worry so much about the concentration and choose which one you like.

    With that being said, I almost always choose an EDP or Parfum over an EDT version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bavard View Post
    It's a lot of fun with a favorite fragrance to have a couple different concentrations - an edt to wear all the time, and a parfum to add on top for nights out, for example. If I can only have one, though, I would want a big spray bottle of an edc, edt, or edp - usually edt, for my tastes.
    For me, I usually will opt for an edp or parfum if given the option because my primary concern is longevity. The more concentrated perfumes can sometimes be a bit rich--Habit Rouge EdP is one that comes to mind--but in that case I'll just be judicious with the sprays.

    Sometimes, a particular fragrance might be a bit too rich for a denser concentration, too. For instance, Egoiste is an edt, and I really think it's perfect at that concentration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boperfume View Post
    Do you have all these different types? If yes, how do you differentiate among them? I mean, when you wear one of these how do you decide one rather than the other?
    I do have all of these types and I don't differentiate among them. I randomly choose what to wear each day so concentration may change on a daily basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boperfume View Post
    Oh I see, thank you! But how do you decide which concentration (and so type of perfume) to wear? I mean baseing your decisions on which charateristichs?
    for fragrances i REALLY like, i'll get all of the concentrations and then layer or strategically place.

    for instance when i feel like wearing Roja Vetiver, i'll put the EDP on my neck and chest and then spray the concentrated Parfum on my wrist. that way the EDP projects with my body heat and creates the cloud, but i can smell my wrist while at work and enjoy the deeper aspects of the parfum.

    i also layer the two concentrations. when i wear Baccarat Rouge 540 i'll spray the parfum once or twice on my neck and then layer the EDP on top of it. why? because the parfum provides longevity while the EDP provides projection and sillage.

    basically:

    Parfum = best longevity and complexity
    EDP/EDT/EDC = best projection

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    Default Re: Eau de toilette, eau de parfum or parfum?

    for me it seems like synthetics perform better than naturals as well. so a EdT synthetic might perform better than a Edp that has more natural ingredients. so i consider longevity and sillage for the people around me and how long im looking to keep the scent 'active' on myself.

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    Default Re: Eau de toilette, eau de parfum or parfum?

    EdP hits the sweet-spot of projection and longevity for me but these categories vary drastically from company to company and are often used as a marketing tool or a way to release a new fragrance and exploit the name of the original based on its popularity and lucrativeness

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    Default Re: Eau de toilette, eau de parfum or parfum?

    It depends on the fragrance in question (sometimes there is a noticeable difference in profile or ingredients between, say, an edt and edp) but also on the effect you want to achieve.

    An eau de toilette will have lots of sillage, meaning that the smell will be diffuse and immediately noticeable to those around you, and will privilege the topnotes, but in terms of longevity it's not going to last as long as stronger concentrations. (There are exceptions.)

    Eau de parfums were first introduced in the 1980s as a kind of halfway house, possessing the sillage/presence of an edt at the same time as aiming for the richness and depth of an extrait.

    Extrait or parfum, where the emphasis is on the basenotes, is strong but normally stays very close to the skin. It is designed to develop slowly over time. (NB recent designers such as Dior have started to apply the word 'parfum' to men's fragrances, but that does not mean that they're the same as traditional parfums - it's just another word for a stronger, usually darker, flanker, usually more akin to an edp in terms of concentration.)
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    Default Re: Eau de toilette, eau de parfum or parfum?

    All depends on the fragrance.
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    I don't have a specific preference. What I do care about is whether or not it's the original formulation or something vintage - pre-IFRA.
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    For the most part I interpret these terminologies with a grain of salt, and evaluate the potency on a case by case basis. Some fragrances advertised as EDT's have the potential to outperform most EDP's and Parfums.

    With that being said, one would still assume that when a single fragrance is offered in multiple flanker concentrations that edt<edp<parfum, and this is still not the case. When this happens, perfumers typically re-arrange the DNA, removing some notes from the previous concentration while adding others, they could make the fragrance stronger and more robust, or more elegant and subtle.
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    I'm not a fan of choosing between EDT EDP etc if it's the same name of the fragrance and the only highlighted difference is the concentration. There can be quite a bit of difference beyond potency, at least sometimes. So I feel like it's best to try before deciding.

    I don't have a preference. Whatever smells the best. There are quite a few EDT or EDC that have quite a bit of potency to them, but of course the general rule would be the opposite. I will say my limited experience with parfum extraits is they do seem much more focused on basenotes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heawns View Post
    I'm not a fan of choosing between EDT EDP etc if it's the same name of the fragrance and the only highlighted difference is the concentration. There can be quite a bit of difference beyond potency, at least sometimes. So I feel like it's best to try before deciding.

    I don't have a preference. Whatever smells the best. There are quite a few EDT or EDC that have quite a bit of potency to them, but of course the general rule would be the opposite. I will say my limited experience with parfum extraits is they do seem much more focused on basenotes
    I agree with this. In theory, they should be weaker, but that often isn't my experience. There usually is something "more" to a parfum, though - richer smelling, at least smelled up close.

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    Depends very much on the respective fragrance, its concentration, its market segment, house but also its specific notes.

    However if having to go further and to focus on while also recommend the best possible performances experienced so far, the EDP and Parfum/Extrait concentrations did so far get optimal concentrations, performances and projections, fairly independent of pricing, gender, designer as opposed to niche/designer, exclusive/artisan divides, at least based on existing/prior experiences.
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    I own all three. If I’m honest, I prefer to spray and as my parfums don’t come in spray bottles, I’m usually reaching for a edt or edp.
    Really, it comes down to smell alone. I don’t have performance issues with any of the versions - they are all to my liking. They do usually smell different, that’s why I tend to own one form over another. Except for ones I’m crazy about; for those I have all versions. Again, they’ll have slight differences and I choose by which I’m in the mood for.

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    For male ones....Dior and Chanel's Sauvage and Bleu, respectively, I prefer just having the EdT. The EdT was successful, so they decided to follow it up with sequels. In the past they would've created the Parfum first. I think the first creation is going to be the truest to the perfumer's vision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultravisitor View Post
    Sometimes, a particular fragrance might be a bit too rich for a denser concentration, too. For instance, Egoiste is an edt, and I really think it's perfect at that concentration.
    Respectfully disagree - while I love Egoiste EdT, Egoiste Concentree is maybe my all time favorite fragrance, period. I adore it. Deeper, richer, denser, darker, and more opulent than the EdT.

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    Default Re: Eau de toilette, eau de parfum or parfum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Joe View Post
    Respectfully disagree - while I love Egoiste EdT, Egoiste Concentree is maybe my all time favorite fragrance, period. I adore it. Deeper, richer, denser, darker, and more opulent than the EdT.
    noticed a difference in performance between the Paris Only and the New York/Paris EDT bottles, the latter being stronger and more opulent.
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    Speaking purely of masculines, to echo what others have said here.... you need to test. It’s not a simple matter of oil/alcohol concentration, you often essentially have flankers sold under the same title, often with the EDP or Parfum having a simplified note tree.

    Some common examples - both Bleu de Chanel and Sauvage EDT give my nose a very “scratchy” feel, while their EDPs do not. I don’t think the Parfum is lively enough for either to suit their purpose, so I’d pick EDP for both.

    For Terre d’Hermes EDT, the lack of focus on the flint note has the citrus come off with a slightly bitter edge, so while I prefer the projection of the EDT the more rounded finish of the Parfum is far more enjoyable.

    For Eau Sauvage I own and love both, same with Fahrenheit.... but they’re completely different to each other..
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    I like the fragrance then I buy what is available, if I really love I will buy the parfum version.

    Actually some edt versions perform better than the edp versions. It just depends on the house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N.CAL Fragrance Reviewer View Post
    noticed a difference in performance between the Paris Only and the New York/Paris EDT bottles, the latter being stronger and more opulent.
    Eager to test this phenomenon, but I have yet to find a NY/Paris bottle

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    For the same version of fragrance, I prefer EDP or perfume (extract).

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    Default Re: Eau de toilette, eau de parfum or parfum?

    Quote Originally Posted by saminlondon View Post
    It depends on the fragrance in question (sometimes there is a noticeable difference in profile or ingredients between, say, an edt and edp) but also on the effect you want to achieve.

    An eau de toilette will have lots of sillage, meaning that the smell will be diffuse and immediately noticeable to those around you, and will privilege the topnotes, but in terms of longevity it's not going to last as long as stronger concentrations. (There are exceptions.)

    Eau de parfums were first introduced in the 1980s as a kind of halfway house, possessing the sillage/presence of an edt at the same time as aiming for the richness and depth of an extrait.

    Extrait or parfum, where the emphasis is on the basenotes, is strong but normally stays very close to the skin. It is designed to develop slowly over time. (NB recent designers such as Dior have started to apply the word 'parfum' to men's fragrances, but that does not mean that they're the same as traditional parfums - it's just another word for a stronger, usually darker, flanker, usually more akin to an edp in terms of concentration.)
    Second all of this.

    When buying vintage (blind as per usual), I will usually go for the parfum first. I am rarely disappointed in any well preserved vintage parfum, Vintage EDT’s and EDC’s from top houses such as Guerlain, Caron, and Chanel are also excellent.

    As Sam in London notes, EDP is a newer term and, often, indicates a reformulation, such as No. 19 EDP which is a different perfume than the older EDT and parfum. There are older terms for this formulation, notably “parfum de toilette.” Many vintage PDT’s can be excellent, such as vintage Femme PDT, which is again a different composition from the newer EDP.




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