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    Default Oriental/Woody Fougeres Worth Trying?

    Definitely not a category for kids!
    Most great selections will be vintage as well.

    One's I own an enjoy are:

    Carven Homme
    Pascal Morabio - Or Black
    Guerlain Heritage
    YSL Jazz Prestige
    Moschino Pour Homme
    Krizia Moods Uomo
    Diana De Silva - Ettore Bugatti
    Creed - Bois du Portugal
    Lalique Pour Homme


    Any more worth trying that live up to the above list?
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    Guerlain Habit Rouge and Heritage
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    Bracken Man by Amouage
    Fougère Royale by Houbigant

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    Default Re: Oriental/Woody Fougeres Worth Trying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trauerkraut View Post
    Fougère Royale by Houbigant
    Yes!
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    Le Galion Special for Gentlemen
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    Default Re: Oriental/Woody Fougeres Worth Trying?

    Somewhat similar to Bois du Portugal is a nice one I could not find in your wardrobe: Miller-Harris Feuilles de Tabac. You can find 10+ year-old bottles, too.
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    Have you tried Gucci Nobile?
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    Default Re: Oriental/Woody Fougeres Worth Trying?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpp214 View Post
    Jacques Zolty
    Which one in particular from the house?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hednic View Post
    Which one in particular from the house?
    The only one I've tried is the eponymous original, just titled Jacques Zolty. I think it might also be called St. Barthelemy?

    It came out in 2007 and I'd been wanting to try it for ages. I finally was able to acquire a bottle from a fellow Basenoter last year.

    It gets compared to Sartorial and Le Male, and while it has the same the same barbershop vibe, it's also quite different. Lavender, cypress, artemesia, frankincense and ambergris. It's an EDT but performs like an EDP. I didn't realize how hard it's become to find now, so I feel
    lucky to have found a bottle when I did. I think it's the best Cypress prominent fragrance I've tried.

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    My SOTD I believe would be an oriental fougere. Its quite nice and I believe worth sampling.

    Edit - my SOTD says I'm wearing Ceylon but actually im wearing Fars. Not sure how I messed that one up...
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    Great ideas and recommendations already, also adding Van Cleef & Arpels pour Homme
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    Obsession For Men by CK (only bottles from the 80s and 90s)
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    Default Re: Oriental/Woody Fougeres Worth Trying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbouti View Post
    Obsession For Men by CK (only bottles from the 80s and 90s)
    Used to love this stuff back in the day. The current juice is awful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Man Of The World View Post
    Used to love this stuff back in the day. The current juice is awful.
    A friend of mine used to bathe in the 80s version. Alas it got thrown onto the reformulation wagon with so many other greats. In a way having a finite amount makes them feel a bit more special and people appreciate them more. Just like white rhinos, tigers and rock guitarists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbouti View Post
    A friend of mine used to bathe in the 80s version. Alas it got thrown onto the reformulation wagon with so many other greats. In a way having a finite amount makes them feel a bit more special and people appreciate them more. Just like white rhinos, tigers and rock guitarists.
    LOL

    Yes...The original juice was really deep, sweet and spicy. Loved it!
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    Aventus/Bois du Portugal - Creed
    Jubilation XXV - Amouage
    L'Air Du Desert Marocain - Tauer
    Danger - Roja Dove
    Baccarat Rouge 540 - MFK
    Naxos - Xerjoff
    Coromandel - Chanel
    Patchouli Nobile - Nobile 1942
    Baraonda - Nasomatto
    Incident Diplomatique/Private Label - Jovoy
    Layton - PDM

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    Default Re: Oriental/Woody Fougeres Worth Trying?

    Yohji Homme by Yohji Yamamoto - the 1999 version

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbouti View Post
    Obsession For Men by CK (only bottles from the 80s and 90s)
    Obsession! That's a blast from the past. A true 80s fragrance if ever there was one. Not sure it counts as a fougère, though. I'd call it a straight-up oriental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saminlondon View Post
    Obsession! That's a blast from the past. A true 80s fragrance if ever there was one. Not sure it counts as a fougère, though. I'd call it a straight-up oriental.
    Hey Sam. This is where rigid genre classifications can become a point of contention rather than an aid to helping someone find something they’re looking for. I wouldn’t personally call it a fougere, but then I wouldn’t call the OPs suggestion of Bois du Portugal a fougere either which I’m guessing was why he listed a few to put us in his ballpark scentwise. That’s not to say I disagree with his train of thought in using the term oriental/woody fougere. Both Obsession and BdP share a similar oriental woody character and sometimes when I wear one I get hints of the other shining through. Going purely on a strict genre would have been too limiting in this instance.
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    Hermes Equipage.

    This one bends the fragrance family / category definitions quite a bit. But the green note that is the key character of Fougere is there, but it’s subtle.

    Aramis Havana.

    Again, more about tobacco that the Fougere accord but it’s there, more than it is in Equipage.

    Actually, once I had a bottle of each, in current formulation, I was surprised to find a lot of similarities.

    Take Equipage. Turn up the Fougere accord. Make it less smooth, more brash, more up in your grill. Wouldn’t be that far off Havana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbouti View Post
    Hey Sam. This is where rigid genre classifications can become a point of contention rather than an aid to helping someone find something they’re looking for. I wouldn’t personally call it a fougere, but then I wouldn’t call the OPs suggestion of Bois du Portugal a fougere either which I’m guessing was why he listed a few to put us in his ballpark scentwise. That’s not to say I disagree with his train of thought in using the term oriental/woody fougere. Both Obsession and BdP share a similar oriental woody character and sometimes when I wear one I get hints of the other shining through. Going purely on a strict genre would have been too limiting in this instance.
    Well said! Perfume genre-crossing is so far past the roccoco stage at this point, it's hard to tell what is basis and what is elaboration.

    Turin likened chypre to 3D walls upon which to hang paintings. Frankly, both fougère and chypre, with oakmoss tied up in her rocking chair, are now surrounded by gleaming cities and/or trailer parks.

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    Default Re: Oriental/Woody Fougeres Worth Trying?

    I think Pasha de Cartier (1992) belongs on this list, especially because you like Jazz Prestige.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    Well said! Perfume genre-crossing is so far past the roccoco stage at this point, it's hard to tell what is basis and what is elaboration.

    Turin likened chypre to 3D walls upon which to hang paintings. Frankly, both fougère and chypre, with oakmoss tied up in her rocking chair, are now surrounded by gleaming cities and/or trailer parks.
    I guess you're both right. I'm just conscious that without well-defined terms for the classic structures of perfumery - fougère, chypre (lots of confusion over those two), oriental, even if those models have been adapted and updated - we lose the ability to describe what we're smelling or hope to smell. Anyway, a discussion for another thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saminlondon View Post
    I guess you're both right. I'm just conscious that without well-defined terms for the classic structures of perfumery - fougère, chypre (lots of confusion over those two), oriental, even if those models have been adapted and updated - we lose the ability to describe what we're smelling or hope to smell. Anyway, a discussion for another thread.
    Yes, a great discussion, and you are quite correct in this as well. Bigsly and I have discussed this many times - he finds the act of calling Polo Double Black a fougère so unconscionable as to be wrong - I find it merely annoying, and Turin simply did it, in complete agreement with professional perfumery, laughing at the both of us.

    Frankly, we need better terms, maybe even compound terms, and in that sense, Sheik and I may both be right, but you're doubly right. The terminology is labored at best, and the lack of clarity is not helping the discussion of the art. I am now seeing "chypre" and "fougère" mixed up all the time, in part because oakmoss is in hiding, but also in part because fougères are now so sparsely defined, that everybody gets to be one.

    I have simply learned to be too tolerant on this. Save my sanity for better dilemmas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    Yes, a great discussion, and you are quite correct in this as well. Bigsly and I have discussed this many times - he finds the act of calling Polo Double Black a fougère so unconscionable as to be wrong - I find it merely annoying, and Turin simply did it, in complete agreement with professional perfumery, laughing at the both of us.

    Frankly, we need better terms, maybe even compound terms, and in that sense, Sheik and I may both be right, but you're doubly right. The terminology is labored at best, and the lack of clarity is not helping the discussion of the art. I am now seeing "chypre" and "fougère" mixed up all the time, in part because oakmoss is in hiding, but also in part because fougères are now so sparsely defined, that everybody gets to be one.

    I have simply learned to be too tolerant on this. Save my sanity for better dilemmas.
    I'm with you on this one. There's pedantry and there's perfumery; one's not so enjoyable as the other.
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    You are all right. If someone asked me to recommend them a fougere I would be more inclined to go with something like Pasha/Rive Gauche/Paco Rabanne Pour Homme than Kouros/Cool Water. Kouros doesn’t fully register as a fougere to me but I wouldn’t disagree if someone said it was one because its an animalic twist, but if someone asked for a subtype, say animalic fougere Kouros would be first. Classifications and genres are a good idea in they can help someones understanding or help them find something they want. Beyond that it can get a bit tomaYto tomaRto.

    Sometimes theres 4 genres in one bottle and it just depends on where you’re standing to smell it.
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    Tomarto? There are now three ways to say it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbouti View Post
    Sometimes theres 4 genres in one bottle and it just depends on where you’re standing to smell it.
    If Robert Fripp from King Crimson made a perfume it would be this.

    Also: Jaïpur Homme may be another good one to add. (EdT is more fougère, EdP is more oriental).
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