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    Default Fragrance History: "Ancient School" perfumes, perfumes from Ancient Greece, Rome and Middle East

    I am fascinated by the ancient world, especially the golden age in Athens (500-300BC), the roman empire, and the Persian empire. I would very much like to buy perfumes that follow the recipes, notes and accords used in those times. I know that the greeks used scented olive oil, and I am sure that other civilizations had their own fragrances.

    So, which houses created perfumes based on the ones used in the ancient world? Please help! I must have these perfumes.

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    Default Re: Fragrance History: "Ancient School" perfumes, perfumes from Ancient Greece, Rome and Middle East

    I imagine that saffron must have been important in ancient Persian perfumery.
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    Default Re: Fragrance History: "Ancient School" perfumes, perfumes from Ancient Greece, Rome and Middle East

    Elixir attars
    FYI: I spray all fragrances on clothing, never on skin.

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    Default Re: Fragrance History: "Ancient School" perfumes, perfumes from Ancient Greece, Rome and Middle East

    I have posted a link to an interesting article

    look here for more

    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/465...mes?highlight=

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    Default Re: Fragrance History: "Ancient School" perfumes, perfumes from Ancient Greece, Rome and Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by Monsieur Montana View Post
    I have posted a link to an interesting article

    look here for more

    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/465...mes?highlight=
    It is fascinating, and a pity that they did not incorporate those three perfumes to their collection!

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    Default Re: Fragrance History: "Ancient School" perfumes, perfumes from Ancient Greece, Rome and Middle East

    l love ancient history, too!

    l think you might enjoy Aftelier's Ancient Resins.
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    Have once read an article published out of all magazines in National Geographic rather than a more fashion/style/perfume/pharmacy etc. related one about a certain company that specializes in historical recreation of scents associated with famous historical personalities and periods from the past.

    Unfortunately, having read this article a long time ago while in highschool, in traditional print from and long before scans, homepages etc. of major press outlets were commonplace, cannot seem to find any link to this.

    Still, with all the disappointment and inconvenience to not find the respective article, was nevertheless rejoiced that at least in theory almost any historical fragrance, style, fashion, fad, peculiarity can be recreated/reconstructed even from limited, minimal, at best sketchy hints. As long as there is a certain curiousness and willingness from certain downright fragrance mavericks and enthusiasts.
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    Aesop used to have a perfume called Mystra which, while not exactly based on an ancient recipe, was made of ingredients common back then. But I think it was discontinued. Occasionally I head of recreations of the Egyptian perfume kyphi (from a recipe in Herodotus), but I am not aware of any such reconstruction in current production.

    If you are ever in Paris, you can check whether the Osmotheque (the perfume school and repository) has smelling sessions. They do have reconstructions of ancient perfumes (but not for sale, just for smelling).

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    Default Re: Fragrance History: "Ancient School" perfumes, perfumes from Ancient Greece, Rome and Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by Ken_Russell View Post
    Have once read an article published out of all magazines in National Geographic rather than a more fashion/style/perfume/pharmacy etc. related one about a certain company that specializes in historical recreation of scents associated with famous historical personalities and periods from the past.

    Unfortunately, having read this article a long time ago while in highschool, in traditional print from and long before scans, homepages etc. of major press outlets were commonplace, cannot seem to find any link to this.
    It might have been the article that led to this book:

    https://www.amazon.com/Perfume-Scien.../dp/0792273788

    Also of potential interest:

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...led-180972854/

    And somewhat less ancient, but still related:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...e-9792347.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by PStoller View Post
    It might have been the article that led to this book:

    https://www.amazon.com/Perfume-Scien.../dp/0792273788

    Also of potential interest:

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...led-180972854/

    And somewhat less ancient, but still related:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...e-9792347.html

    Thank you for the links, bringing up not just memories but also inspiring further searches for additional knowledge and info.
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    Default Re: Fragrance History: "Ancient School" perfumes, perfumes from Ancient Greece, Rome and Middle East

    Hey guys, I found something! This:

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    From the official site: An imaginary voyage back to the time of Alexander the Great when, at night, spices and resins were burned. The smoke took on their sweet, balmy accents that soothed the soul and offered repose to the body. Slowly, they prepared for the morrow and the great conquests to come.

    From Basenotes: "Based on a description of a scent used at the time of Alexander the Great"

    I am gonna buy it now!
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    Eau lente is a very good perfume and I like it. But it's a modern perfume, no relation to anything ancient. The house seems to have taken inspiration from antiquity elsewhere as well, as in the sadly discontinued Virgilio.

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    Default Re: Fragrance History: "Ancient School" perfumes, perfumes from Ancient Greece, Rome and Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by cacio View Post
    Eau lente is a very good perfume and I like it. But it's a modern perfume, no relation to anything ancient. The house seems to have taken inspiration from antiquity elsewhere as well, as in the sadly discontinued Virgilio.

    cacio
    The construction of Eau Lente is modern, right? But they did use a combination of ancient notes in it. I am gonna try it.

    I do have a sample of Virgilio, but I did not like it very much because it reminds me of leaf sap, of a bad kind!
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    There are spices in Eau Lente, some of which existed back then as well-so in this sense it could be inspired. In any case, a good perfume worth trying.

    I guess Virgil's humble herbs (myricae) didn't hit the marks there... I actually like the perfume Virgilio, thyme and herbs to my nose.

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    Default Re: Fragrance History: "Ancient School" perfumes, perfumes from Ancient Greece, Rome and Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrei Bolkonsky View Post
    The construction of Eau Lente is modern, right? But they did use a combination of ancient notes in it.
    I would argue that any fragrance employing naturals—or even, depending on how you define "notes," merely emulating them—is using "a combination of ancient notes." Notes matter, of course—there were no ancient ambroxan bombs—but I should think construction is essential to differentiating ancient fragrances from modern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PStoller View Post
    I would argue that any fragrance employing naturals—or even, depending on how you define "notes," merely emulating them—is using "a combination of ancient notes." Notes matter, of course—there were no ancient ambroxan bombs—but I should think construction is essential to differentiating ancient fragrances from modern.
    Yes yes, what I really want is to find a perfume built in "the ancient way" and that smells like the ancient fragrances. But this is something difficult to achieve. I have to be satisfied with what is offered.
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    Default Re: Fragrance History: "Ancient School" perfumes, perfumes from Ancient Greece, Rome and Middle East

    OMG OMG

    Guys, I've just received this email from the Greeks. Read below. They do sell commercially one of the perfumes that were in the museum exhibition! (But only in their physical stores in Greece). OMG

    Dear Andrei,

    Thank you for reaching out.

    The three scents of antiquity –namely Aphrodite’s Rose, Coriander and Sage – were revived by KORRES following invitation by the National Archaeological Museum and exhibited in the context of the contemporary exhibition “The Countless Aspects of Beauty” that has now reached an end.

    Aphrodite’s Rose Fragrance is the eau de toilette we designed, based on the notes of the aromatic oil that was exhibited at the Museum. It is available exclusively in Greece at KORRES stand-alone stores (for more information regarding KORRES stores in Greece, please visit https://www.korres.com/en/where-to-buy
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