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    Default Re: Active scammer alert - got scammed on the "Fragrances Wanted" forum

    Quote Originally Posted by Oud Dude View Post
    Fwiw, I got ripped off hundreds of dollars by a BN'er who had solid feedback from members here in high standing. It was my fault for accepting his bullshit excuse for changing the way I funded the deal but I wrongly trusted his feedback. Sometimes you live, learn and lose a bunch of money...
    Can you share what happened, as far as you're willing to? In what sort of circumstance can this happen, I'm genuinely intrigued if nothing else?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy the frenchy View Post
    Sorry to hear that.
    That can happen, but this kind of incidents are much rarer (if not sporadical) with a BNer with good feedback, than one who has 0 feedback. Anyways, I absolutely decline to go F&F on Paypal, even with trusted BNers.
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    Default Re: Active scammer alert - got scammed on the "Fragrances Wanted" forum

    Not meaning to sound condescending but there’s a reason it’s called Friends and Family. If you don’t feel comfortable or don’t trust the person for any reason always pay by Goods and Services and you’re covered.

    Say something cost £$€100. Whats the difference? Call it 4%. So it cost you 104 instead.

    If it sounds like “They locked my account cozza this guy and nownI have to use my brother’s mother’s sister’s cousin’s dog’s account buttta....”,

    Then I would say “Adieu mon ami.”, and keep on walking.
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    Default Re: Active scammer alert - got scammed on the "Fragrances Wanted" forum

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    I would think most people wouldn't.
    I do sometimes (low value items only), don't mind giving someone new a chance if it's a good deal. It's usually fine. Sites like Ebay, Amazon and Paypal make it fairly easy to get your money back if anything goes wrong.

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    Default Re: Active scammer alert - got scammed on the "Fragrances Wanted" forum

    Just use common sense guys, if somebody insists in getting paid with friends and family, despite the fact that you are willing to pay the fee for goods and services, it's a red flag, what does he care? I always use a credit card for my transactions, so even if I pay with f&f I get charged, so g&s is the way I always pay, regardless who is the seller.
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    Default Re: Active scammer alert - got scammed on the "Fragrances Wanted" forum

    Quote Originally Posted by foxbins View Post
    Please, folks, when you run across a suspected scammer let the mods know. I've permanently banned "Hola" but if we know early on there is a scammer, Grant can block IP addresses and we can be more watchful.
    Will definitely be diligent about this if I happen to see anything.

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    Default Re: Active scammer alert - got scammed on the "Fragrances Wanted" forum

    Quote Originally Posted by slpfrsly View Post
    Can you share what happened, as far as you're willing to? In what sort of circumstance can this happen, I'm genuinely intrigued if nothing else.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbouti View Post
    Not meaning to sound condescending but there’s a reason it’s called Friends and Family. If you don’t feel comfortable or don’t trust the person for any reason always pay by Goods and Services and you’re covered.

    Say something cost £$€100. Whats the difference? Call it 4%. So it cost you 104 instead.

    If it sounds like “They locked my account cozza this guy and nownI have to use my brother’s mother’s sister’s cousin’s dog’s account buttta....”,

    Then I would say “Adieu mon ami.”, and keep on walking.
    My situation was pretty much exactly like Sheik laid out- although I first paid the guy via PP with all the normal protections, he comes back to me days later complaining that he can't access the money because it's his dad's account or some nonsense. He refunds my money and asks me to pay him via Zelle (which has zero buyer protections) which I promptly did because I trusted his feedback. He then proceeds to go dark for weeks then finally chimes in saying he's ready to ship- and then disappears forever. Ultimately a) he's a crook and did a rotten thing to a fellow human being and b) it was my fault for trusting anything. I'll never make THAT mistake again...

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    Default Re: Active scammer alert - got scammed on the "Fragrances Wanted" forum

    I got hit up the other day. A response to my WTB ad. Message read that the person had both of the fragrances I was looking for. I thought the odds of that are 100 million to 1 so I knew it was bs. I did like I was trained at work:don't click on any links and delete immediately. I think it was Jeremy77 or something like that.

    Someone is actively fishing here now.

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    Default Re: Active scammer alert - got scammed on the "Fragrances Wanted" forum

    Quote Originally Posted by Oud Dude View Post
    My situation was pretty much exactly like Sheik laid out- although I first paid the guy via PP with all the normal protections, he comes back to me days later complaining that he can't access the money because it's his dad's account or some nonsense. He refunds my money and asks me to pay him via Zelle (which has zero buyer protections) which I promptly did because I trusted his feedback. He then proceeds to go dark for weeks then finally chimes in saying he's ready to ship- and then disappears forever. Ultimately a) he's a crook and did a rotten thing to a fellow human being and b) it was my fault for trusting anything. I'll never make THAT mistake again...
    Even with good ratings, I guess you can never be sure.

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    Default Re: Active scammer alert - got scammed on the "Fragrances Wanted" forum

    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceRF View Post
    Even with good ratings, I guess you can never be sure.
    On Ebay scammers often build up ratings by buying/selling a bunch of cheap items before they "go in for the kill" with expensive ones. Hunting for victims on "Fragrances Wanted"-type threads also tempts them apparently.

    On a platform like Basenotes, as a buyer I look at the date the seller joined, and the spread of their feedback over time. Members who have been around a while usually aren't the culprits we speak of, and we also have the extra advantage of being able to see others' posts which can give us the feel of the "real person" behind the username. Just because someone doesn't post a lot doesn't make them a scammer, of course, and, everyone has to start somewhere, right? I have often given newcomers a chance - both as a seller and a buyer - since we've all been there. I've been scammed (not here), but it's been thankfully rare. Trust your instincts, contact the mods if you have reason, and "feel out" your "partner" through messaging as well.

    Thanks so much to the OP for posting - awareness is the key to protecting everyone!!

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    Default Re: Active scammer alert - got scammed on the "Fragrances Wanted" forum

    While I was the marketplace moderator, there was one particular time when a longtime member with perfect feedback suddenly began scamming members here. I suspected that some sudden hardship had cause it. I got him to refund some, but after many months passed without additional refunds I banned him. I did not want to risk it happening again. I also created a Scammers thread in the marketplace for all to see. I don't know if Basenotes' moderators are still doing that.
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    Default Re: Active scammer alert - got scammed on the "Fragrances Wanted" forum

    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceRF View Post
    Even with good ratings, I guess you can never be sure.
    So true!

    Quote Originally Posted by pfranka View Post
    On Ebay scammers often build up ratings by buying/selling a bunch of cheap items before they "go in for the kill" with expensive ones. Hunting for victims on "Fragrances Wanted"-type threads also tempts them apparently.

    On a platform like Basenotes, as a buyer I look at the date the seller joined, and the spread of their feedback over time. Members who have been around a while usually aren't the culprits we speak of, and we also have the extra advantage of being able to see others' posts which can give us the feel of the "real person" behind the username. Just because someone doesn't post a lot doesn't make them a scammer, of course, and, everyone has to start somewhere, right? I have often given newcomers a chance - both as a seller and a buyer - since we've all been there. I've been scammed (not here), but it's been thankfully rare. Trust your instincts, contact the mods if you have reason, and "feel out" your "partner" through messaging as well.

    Thanks so much to the OP for posting - awareness is the key to protecting everyone!!
    Those are good points. The individual I dealt with didn't post much so he didn't seem that invested in the community- which, as you said, shouldn't necessarily disqualify someone from ever doing business. I will say that at this point the people I do buy from are all people that I see and interact with here on the regular. Makes me extra appreciative of those people I trust and who I've done repeat biz with.

    Quote Originally Posted by stuigi View Post
    While I was the marketplace moderator, there was one particular time when a longtime member with perfect feedback suddenly began scamming members here. I suspected that some sudden hardship had cause it. I got him to refund some, but after many months passed without additional refunds I banned him. I did not want to risk it happening again. I also created a Scammers thread in the marketplace for all to see. I don't know if Basenotes' moderators are still doing that.
    So strange but I suppose that could be a tactic... I was doing a large buy of multiple rare fragrances. Guess his eyes got wide when he saw a big fish on the line and couldn't contain his inner scoundrel.

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    Default Re: Active scammer alert - got scammed on the "Fragrances Wanted" forum

    Thanks for the info.
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    Default Re: Active scammer alert - got scammed on the "Fragrances Wanted" forum

    Quote Originally Posted by pfranka View Post
    .....everyone has to start somewhere, right? I have often given newcomers a chance - both as a seller and a buyer - since we've all been there.

    Thanks so much to the OP for posting - awareness is the key to protecting everyone!!
    I’ve never sold here and bought once, a flawless transaction for two bottles with a very well-established BN’er and it’s my only feedback to date. Recently, I tried several times to purchase a moderately expensive juice and was blown off completely. I thought, "What a jerk!” Honestly, it never occurred to me that the seller might perceive ME as potentially risky. Reading these posts was an eye-opener.

    +1 Thank you to the OP. No Monday-morning quarterbacking from me. I appreciate your candor.
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    Default Re: Active scammer alert - got scammed on the "Fragrances Wanted" forum

    Thank you for informing. I have posted a similar thread few weeks back, it can be found here:

    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/476...ckground-Check

    Turns out 'Richard Garcia' is becoming a household name for scamming around here on BN. This guy is setting up multiple new accounts just to prey on people that are looking for some particular fragrances in the WTB section. Maybe this thread could serve as a permanent legit check by compiling all the names of the scammers and put it up on the first post for people to refer to?

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    Default Possible scamming in the “In Search of” thread?

    A few days ago I posted that I was looking for vintage Xerjoff Irisss in the In Search Of thread. Yesterday I got a message from a basenotes member Kennet12 who said a Glory Garcia posted that she has one for sale. Kennet12 seems to be a brand new profile with no posts or feedback. When I searched the sale threads, I could not find anyone selling it. This Kennet12 did provide an email for Glory Garcia who I emailed. When I asked, she did not tell me where she had originally posted for sale, only that she was asking $450.00 for a sealed bottle. When I asked for references, this “Glory Garcia” provided me with a few emails of people they had supposedly done business with. I asked if they were on basenotes or any other forums and got vague answers. When I sent emails to the provided emails, I got one response from someone who wrote in the same sort of broken English as Glory Garcia. This person requested that I pay friends and family because it takes 21 days for the money to clear if it was goods and services. This made me very uneasy and I did not proceed with the transaction. I was just wondering if anyone has had a similar experience and warn people that something not quite right may be going on.

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    Default Re: Possible scamming in the “In Search of” thread?

    It’s a scam. There was another thread here that described this system in detail. They used other names (although could be other people this time).
    I’m glad you didn’t do it.
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    Default Re: Possible scamming in the “In Search of” thread?

    Be wary of brand new accounts with no posts. There was another thread from someone who got scammed this way a couple of days ago. If you think something is suspicious, please report. Glad you dodged the bullet, Ken.

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    Default Re: Possible scamming in the “In Search of” thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceRF View Post
    Be wary of brand new accounts with no posts. There was another thread from someone who got scammed this way a couple of days ago. If you think something is suspicious, please report. Glad you dodged the bullet, Ken.
    Thanks man I’m glad I did too. I couldn’t remember if I had seen someone talk about something similar to this. There are some real lowlifes out there

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    Default Re: Possible scamming in the “In Search of” thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by KBF1972 View Post
    There are some real lowlifes out there
    Unfortunately so. They don't belong in this community.

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    Default Re: Possible scamming in the “In Search of” thread?

    Same here. Kennet12 recomended to me to contact Glory via email. I was surprised, and thinking about it, so I have not answered yet. I am glad for your warning.
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    Default Re: Possible scamming in the “In Search of” thread?

    Jeeze you guys do you not come in the "General" forum?? There's been a thread - on the 1st page (still is, just look about 15 threads lower) with a red exclamation mark in front of it so its easy to find, titled "Active Scammer Alert - Got Scammed in the 'Fragrances Wanted' Forum". Been a topic of discussion on the 1st page here for the last week??

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    The entire time i was reading i was praying that you didnt pay! Its just interesting that there are losers trying this, i doubt they are even into fragrances

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    Admins need to make it so you need X amount of posts before you can PM.

    One account gets banned so they make a new one and send out messages to WTB posters. I’m still curious why my thread calling attention to these scammers Was deleted like a week before the other thread was posted.

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    Default Re: Possible scamming in the “In Search of” thread?

    I do agree that there should be some kind of rule where brand new accounts can’t send private messages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by succio View Post
    The entire time i was reading i was praying that you didnt pay! Its just interesting that there are losers trying this, i doubt they are even into fragrances
    They’re not in to frags, but they see the opportunity to scam people out of money. It happens anytime someone is looking and willing to pay for an item. I see scammers like this on Reddit. You can look at their accounts and see them responding to multiple posts of varying types. Who has fragrances, shoes, purses, Switches, and anything else 30 different people are looking for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bl00drunzcold View Post
    Admins need to make it so you need X amount of posts before you can PM.

    One account gets banned so they make a new one and send out messages to WTB posters. I’m still curious why my thread calling attention to these scammers Was deleted like a week before the other thread was posted.
    Number of posts before a PM can be sent is a good idea but its too easy to be a post whore here. One example I would see was people catching up on the scent of the day thread like they were a grade school student handing in a weeks worth of late homework. I am glad they put an end to that nonsense, I think a member should belong to the forum for a minimum time before they can participate in the marketplace. Its meant for members to help other members by keeping items in the community. Its not an avenue for someone to run a business, and certainly not for a member to be exploited by a deceitful outsider.
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    Default Re: Possible scamming in the “In Search of” thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by KBF1972 View Post
    This made me very uneasy and I did not proceed with the transaction.
    Smart move.
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    Default Re: Possible scamming in the “In Search of” thread?

    Yup. Received the same PM after I started an ISO thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by KBF1972 View Post
    I do agree that there should be some kind of rule where brand new accounts can’t send private messages.
    BINGO! This shouldn’t be too difficult to implement.
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    Default Re: Possible scamming in the “In Search of” thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Joe View Post
    Jeeze you guys do you not come in the "General" forum?? There's been a thread - on the 1st page (still is, just look about 15 threads lower) with a red exclamation mark in front of it so its easy to find, titled "Active Scammer Alert - Got Scammed in the 'Fragrances Wanted' Forum". Been a topic of discussion on the 1st page here for the last week??
    No, I go directly to "new posts"...my fault...
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    Default Re: Possible scamming in the “In Search of” thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by foxbins View Post
    Please, folks, when you run across a suspected scammer let the mods know. I've permanently banned "Hola" but if we know early on there is a scammer, Grant can block IP addresses and we can be more watchful.
    Yes, please report potential scammers! Click the icon below the post / message to report it!

    Quote Originally Posted by bl00drunzcold View Post
    Admins need to make it so you need X amount of posts before you can PM.

    One account gets banned so they make a new one and send out messages to WTB posters. I’m still curious why my thread calling attention to these scammers. Was deleted like a week before the other thread was posted.
    You're back in business, my whistle-blowing friend, now as original poster (OP) in a three-thread merger!

    Nifty idea on the wait time to allow private messaging for new accounts. What are the downsides?

    1. New users couldn't sign up and private message sellers to buy things? How serious is this? I don't sell a lot of stuff, so no problem for me, personally.

    Kennet12 has been banned now, too. I don't believe any messages from this user were officially reported. Sometimes it's ok to tattle!




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