Yatagan by Caron (1976)

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  1. odysseusm
    I've been meaning to start a thread on this potent brew. It is very powerful at first, with a lovely piney dry down. Formulated in 1976.

    Top Notes: Lavender, Wormwood, Petitgrain, Artemisia
    Heart Notes: Geranium, Pine Needles, Vetiver, Patchouli
    Base notes: Leather, Castoreum, Styrax
  2. shamu1
    Ah, Yatagan... Tied with Equipage as my second all-time favorite scent (Mazzolari Lui is #1). I agree with the descriptions of Yatagan being very woody, but I don't get much pine. I also don' t detect any "green" smells whatsoever in Yatagan.
  3. odysseusm
    I get a very pine-centered BLAST in the opening notes of Yatagan, which comes back in a more gentle, forest-y way in the drydown. The distinctive thing, the really old-school thing about Yatagan for me, is that it burns itself into my scent memory. Even after the scent itself is gone (and it lasts a long time) for the next day or two I can recall it vividly. It is one powerful beast.
  4. shamu1
    Looks like you've changed your view on Yatagan since you wrote your review! I think I remember you initially writing in your review that you didn't understand what all the fuss is about with Yatagan. What was it about Yatagan that changed your opinion?
  5. odysseusm
    I think I'm becoming more sensitive and more discerning. I also understand old-school scents better, and their components. When I initially said I didn't understand what the fuss was, I had in mind some reviews that implied that Yatagan was some kind of grotesque endurance test. It isn't that, at least not to me since I like green and pine scents. But it is incredibly powerful and has very extended longevity. And it is somewhat brutal and animalic in its power. So it seems to me more recently.
  6. shamu1
    To tell you the truth, I think it's the brown color of the juice that's throwing me off on my detection of any green notes! If the same juice were in Krizia Uomo's bottle, for example, perhaps my brain wouldn't be as fooled.
    Thios isn't the disgusting monster people make it out to be.

    I'm surprised no one else has made mention of what i consider to be the major player in Yatagan:

    To me, it is dominated by a very authetic scent of a large mature sun-baked patch of Thyme.
    Well, maybe dominated is too strong a word
  8. odysseusm
    Today's thoughts on this distinctive 1970's scent.
    It is quite assertive and powerful. I apply it in very small doses.
    Doesn't seem very green to me, though I do get some herbal notes. Dullah suggested thyme, and that may be. I get a kind of minty, dusky, cooked celery leaf note which I attributed to the artemesia. Hints of camphor from the lavender, hints of conifer from the pine. But the scent quickly goes to its brown, earthy animalic base. I don't really care for that chord, which seems rather dated to me now. Leathery and earthy from the patchouli and other base notes.
    Reminds me of Kiehl's Homme which I think actually has a superior coniferous and fresher quality.
    PS - it took a while to settle down (about two hours). Now it is lovely, balanced, and a bit haunting. Definitely needs to be applied in very light and small amounts, and benefits from exercising one's patience.
  9. MonkeyBars
    I definitely get a distinct pine accord in Yatagan, one of my favorite fragrances, though I agree it does not dominate.

    The new juice has a lot less dark green oakmoss (of course) than the old stuff which was greener and chalkier. I can spray a lot more of the new stuff, up to 12 sprays, as I find the sprayer is a bit lighter on the trigger and the juice a bit more top-heavy.

    I feel there is likely celery seed e.o. in the heart of Yatagan providing its main theme along with crisp, herbaceous lavender. The drydown is mostly patchouli and castoreum. But I much, much prefer Yatagan to several other of the frags mentioned in this thread, such as Kiehl's Homme, as it has almost no smoky birch tar "leather", rather just the aforementioned animalic castoreum.
  10. odysseusm
    I am revisiting some heavy hitters with a new, ultra-light application policy. This is working well. Here -- **1** spritz on the wrist, then applied to other wrist and those on the neck. That is **it**.
    Result: a nice, classy scent. Brisk conifer and lavender in opening. Leads to a dusky green note, with a bit of celery leaf. Dark 80's notes in the dry-down, but they are manageable.
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