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    Re: Need help with VINTAGE Giorgio Red for Men

    One thing I just noticed: Professor Value's vintage made in U.S.A. EdT pictured above says 83% on the box, while the vintage made in U.K. EdT boxes I've seen read 82%.

    So it appears Red for Men...
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    Re: Need help with VINTAGE Giorgio Red for Men

    The fact that it says "UTIF" seems to point to an initial edition (as "UTIF" was shortened to "UTF" very early on in the Nineties, apparently at some point during 1990).
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    Re: Vintage fragrance I bought today

    Congrats! Furyo is potent stuff - my 30 ml will last me a while.
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    Re: Vintage Antaeus Thread

    I've seen Red for Men boxes with UTIF written on it. Red for Men was launched only in 1991. Of course, the boxes could have been designed already in 1990 but anyway, this makes me think UTIF...
  5. Re: Reformulation thoughts on Red for Men by GIorgio of Beverly Hills.

    I'm inclined to think this must be so, because I've seen a box labeled "Eau de Toilette" but with a bottle inside that reads "Cologne Spray", not EdT!

    Anyone seen a box that actually mentions...
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    Re: Your Vintage Scent of the Day (SOTD)

    Giorgio Beverly Hills V.I.P.

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  7. Re: Giorgio Beverly Hills Red for Men - Current Edition?

    Could be.

    Reading some of the descriptions here sounds like we're smelling a different fragrance. I've got plenty of classics as cheapie reformulations and Red does well among that lot and...
  8. Re: I know Salvador Dali pH is not a safe blind buy but... I'm thinking I MIGHT just love it

    My 2019 bottle smells great and, while inevitably different due to reformulation and age difference, it's close to the late 80's vintage. Actually, I like wearing the newer one more because the...
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    Re: Need help with VINTAGE Giorgio Red for Men

    From what I'm seeing, the spray version that says "NATURAL SPRAY" under "EAU DE TOILETTE" on front of the box is vintage? While the relaunch reads "EAU DE TOILETTE SPRAY" (all written on the same...
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    Re: Your Vintage Scent of the Day (SOTD)

    Salvador Dali pour Homme.

    First full wear after receiving this blind buy. Lovely! So happy I took the risk.
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    Re: Vintage fragrance I bought today

    Thanks! :coolold:

    The Furyo and V.I.P. are just 30ml sprays, but will last me a while given my spraying habits - and all the other stuff to "spray through" in this lifetime! :shocked:
  12. Re: I know Salvador Dali pH is not a safe blind buy but... I'm thinking I MIGHT just love it

    I think it's potent enough with decent longevity (although I have to admit longevity is very rarely an issue for me). My main issue is the atomizer, which is easily the worst I have ever encountered....
  13. Re: Giorgio Beverly Hills Red for Men - Current Edition?

    Probably still had some oakmoss in it? The current one is devoid of it altogether and the base of course lacks heft accordingly. Although to my nose, it doesn't smell hollow exactly, thanks to the...
  14. Re: I know Salvador Dali pH is not a safe blind buy but... I'm thinking I MIGHT just love it

    So I received my blind bought Salvador Dali pH (1st vintage) yesterday. Thanks everyone for your input!

    I'm wearing this now and I really like it! Even though not smelling too similar, I can't...
  15. Re: Giorgio Beverly Hills Red for Men - Current Edition?

    Lucky me, I don't get anything fecal, nauseating or unpleasant from my bottle. If I did, I probably wouldn't be considering the vintage.
  16. Re: How do you "recycle" alcohol after decant ?

    First time I decanted from a splash bottle, I tried using a mini funnel, decanting from my vintage Polo into a 2 ml atomizer. Oops! I guess closer to 10 ml was used and wife complained of the "awful...
  17. Re: Giorgio Beverly Hills Red for Men - Current Edition?

    I'm really enjoying the current Red! And even more so than V.I.P. (vintage obviously) or current Giorgio for Men.

    Vintage Red costs five times as much. I'm sort of tempted but, hmm, here's the...
  18. Re: How do I remove the chemical smell in perfume

    I have found that what many describe as "chemical", "synthetic" and "harsh" is an effect I often happen to enjoy. Like a slap on the face in the opening that initially makes you go "whoah, what the...
  19. Re: Why did you wear what you wore today.. April 2021

    I decided to give Giorgio Beverly Hills Red for Men its first full wearing, because on my quick sampling yesterday I got a surprising and very good tobacco/cigarette accord. Lo and behold, I'm not...
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    Re: SOTD: Thursday, 8th April, 2021

    Giorgio Beverly Hills Red of Men
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    Re: Vintage fragrance I bought today

    Bogart Furyo

    Giorgio Beverly Hills V.I.P. Special Reserve

    Salvador Dali pour Homme
  22. Re: Name the fragrance you tried/smelled today for the first time - 2021

    First impressions of blind bought stuff I received yesterday and today:

    Giorgio Beverly Hills V.I.P. Special Reserve - surprisingly close to (current) Giorgio for Men, more so than I expected. By...
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    Re: Questions for BN Experts

    You mean learning to analyze fragrances? In my opinion, no - "deeper understanding" is in no way a prerequisite for personal enjoyment, be it fragrances, music, literature, movies or whatever. From...
  24. Re: How do you "recycle" alcohol after decant ?

    A nice idea!

    But... I just throw mine away.
  25. Re: If you had the choice between these three male fragrances

    Absolu (although very sweet).
  26. Re: Is It Really Bad to Wear Winter Fragrances During Hot Weather?

    This.
  27. Re: How do I remove the chemical smell in perfume

    Given that fragrance is a mixture of various chemicals, a "chemical smell" is the inevitable end result to the nose. Just like synthetics will inevitably make a scent smell "synthetic" by definition...
  28. Re: What is your favourite Issey Miyake fragrance?

    Bleue, by a mile.
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    Poll: Re: How open are you to wearing a "clone" scent ?

    I could care less, as long as it smells good.
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    Re: Vintage Antaeus Thread

    "U.T.I.F." points to pre-90s.
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    Re: Looking for a masculine floral

    Knize Ten +2

    For masculine rose, Cartier Declaration d'un Soir and Etro ManRose. (Amouage Lyric Man I find too feminine and bright.)
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    Re: Bought my first bottle of L'eau de issey ph

    Yes, definitely. I love the pungent and aromatic blast of the opening. I can understand why some think it's harsh and "synthetic". Well, that kind of vibe happens to be right up my alley!
  33. Re: What're the absolute best clones/alternatives?

    Current GIT = current Aspen
    Vintage Paco Rabanne pour Homme = Great Jones
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    Re: Bought my first bottle of L'eau de issey ph

    It's good stuff - from what I remember spraying on paper strips.

    The real gem to me is L'Eau Bleue d'Issey though.
  35. Re: Have you ever damaged a splash bottle cap by overtightening?

    I guess with plumbing tape, even though the cap could still be tightened some more, it's actually sealed already?

    I'm obviously overthinking this, but with the tape in place it seems trickier to...
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    Re: Your Vintage Scent of the Day (SOTD)

    Capucci pour Homme vintage on left hand, current formulation on the right. Yet another case of "minimal difference".
  37. Re: Yesterday and Today: CAPUCCI pour Homme (from 1967)

    Right now I'm testing side by side Capucci pH vintage (smooth cap) and current (?) Extraordinary Fragrances formulation (oakmoss listed on the box).

    To my nose, these are remarkably close, though...
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    Re: Can we stop calling them oriental fragrances

    How about "churchy" smelling fragrances? Isn't it a biased and loaded term, with its presupposed link to Christianity, even though "church" is a central concept in, say, Scientology too?
  39. Have you ever damaged a splash bottle cap by overtightening?

    I have a few vintage splash bottles, from which I decant with a pipette into 2 ml atomizers. I use teflon tape to seal both the atomizer and splash bottle to minimize evaporation. I only wrap a...
  40. Re: Any cheap fragrances with good sillage and longevity?

    In my experience price point has little to do with enjoyability or lack thereof. Some of my most memorable experiences have been with cheapies. I did have a brief "niche snob" phase though.
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    Re: best name for a fragrance

    Sex Appeal. :coolold:
  42. Re: Any cheap fragrances with good sillage and longevity?

    Because cheap price surprisingly often does not equal "cheap smell" (how ever that elusive term is defined).
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    Re: Can we stop calling them oriental fragrances

    Who knows, maybe "Middle Eastern" and "Far Eastern" will be considered offensive in the future, because they imply a European vantage point, where Europe is the presupposed "center".
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    Re: Is current Aramis New West worth it?

    I think they are well blended in and balanced, at least in the current version (and I would suspect vintage too). FWIW, I tend to dislike modern sweet tobaccos, such as Pure Havane or Insurrection II...
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    Re: Can we stop calling them oriental fragrances

    Maybe? And why why stop there when:

    "Animalic" = disrespectful of the animals that have had to suffer for the sake of perfumery?

    "Men's" vs. "women's fragrances" = sexist and artificial?
    ...
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    Re: Early love that is still a love

    YSL Jazz
    Happy for Men
    Armani Code Sport

    All of them just as enjoyable now as they were three, two and one decades ago.
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    Re: Your Vintage Scent of the Day (SOTD)

    Polo Green
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    Re: Your 2021 Fragrance Balance

    +31 bottles
    +1 mini

    Once again, I'm planning to stop "for now".
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    Re: Is current Aramis New West worth it?

    The new one is an excellent piercingly aromatic blast to the nose. No doubt the vintage is even better.
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    Re: Your Vintage Scent of the Day (SOTD)

    Zino.

    This is the first time I'm trying this. Surprisingly, I get an animalic vibe, which I didn't expect and it makes me think of Givenchy Gentleman. There's also a floral aspect reminiscent of...
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    Re: Vintage fragrance I bought today

    :thumbsup:
  52. Re: How frequently can a scent "change" to you?

    Amouage Memoir Man has gone from irritatingly cloying to deliciously chocolate-y between two wearings (with equal amount of sprays and points of application). Epic Man has "changed" too. Different...
  53. Re: Which Fragrance Are You Currently Waiting To Be Delivered In The Mail? (2021)

    Wings for Men
    Red for Men
    Lagerfeld Classic
    Rochas Moustache Original 1949
    Eau de Rochas Homme
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    Re: Vintage fragrance I bought today

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    Re: Rapid battle on a amouage blind buy.

    Interesting! I usually spray Memoir only once or twice max and need to direct it below chest level to avoid getting overwhelmed.
  56. Re: If you were going to explore a house new to you...

    Yes, this! Completely forgot about SMN. Nostalgia, Patchouli & Peau d'Espagne, at the very least.
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    Re: Kouros thread question

    Do you remember from what year your last bottle before the 2019 one was?

    Just a random thought: My approach with these reformulated classics is that I don't even expect to get the mossy density...
  58. Re: Which Fragrance Are You Currently Waiting To Be Delivered In The Mail? (2021)

    I've smelled current pour Monsieur on a paper strip once and remember liking it. Furthermore, I love Capucci pH and Boucheron pH EdT, so I figured the Givenchy would be a reasonably safe blind buy....
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    Re: Rapid battle on a amouage blind buy.

    Fate Man

    Manages to keep the usual oriental opulence in check. And smells fantastic, of course. I also own and love Memoir Man (can get semi-cloying although usually does not) and Epic Man (maybe...
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    Re: Vintage fragrance I bought today

    There was recently a Fragrantica article on Lapidus pour Homme by Miguel Matos. I just spotted this in the comment section: "I had an original formula flacon of Lapidus with the 85% vol. on the...
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    Re: Vintage fragrance I bought today

    You mean Lapidus switched from 82% to 85% and then back to 82% with the reformulations? I have seen a 82% version with "UTIF" written on the box, which would mean it predates 1990. Based on that, the...
  62. Re: If you were going to explore a house new to you...

    I've never sniffed a Frederic Malle in my life. I feel Portrait of a Lady at least would be worth sampling. Svensk Parfum, Lubin and Rogue Perfumery also spring to mind. Zero experience with any of...
  63. Re: Linearism: No Detection or Minor Detection Changes

    I don't follow current releases closely, so I can't say if there's been a trend towards linearity. Safe and uninspiring in the designer realm, yes. Linear? Can't say from casual paper strip testing....
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    Re: Looking for Givenchy Gentleman Intense

    Yeah, I remember reading something about "Originale" possibly being an European exclusive. And I have no idea if there's been yet another reformulation since 2019. I guess it's entirely possible with...
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    Re: Looking for Givenchy Gentleman Intense

    The '74 version, currently labeled "Eau de Toilette Originale" (at least in Europe), is reportedly closer to the vintage than earlier non-"Originale" reformulations.

    But even the 2018 released...
  66. Re: Which Fragrance Are You Currently Waiting To Be Delivered In The Mail? (2021)

    All blind buys, all vintages:

    Monsieur de Givenchy
    Salvador Dali pour Homme
    Giorgio for Men V.I.P. Special Reserve
    Bogart Furyo
    Davidoff Zino (mini)
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    Re: Current 5 faves today

    In random order:

    Amouage Fate Man
    Ted Lapidus Lapidus pour Homme
    Nishane Unutamam
    Etro Palais Jamais
    Jaguar for Men

    Funny how much the top 5 can change from day to day :shocked:
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    Re: Your Vintage Scent of the Day (SOTD)

    Cool!

    I'm waiting for mine to be delivered - a blind buy motivated by the current "regular" Giorgio for Men (which I like a lot).
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    Re: Your Vintage Scent of the Day (SOTD)

    Eau de Rochas pour Homme

    I'm thinking of grabbing the current formulation to compare and to layer with the vintage, because the top notes seem quite subdued. Later on, not a lot of projection...
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    Re: Vintage fragrance I bought today

    Looks like the 2nd edition to me!
  71. Re: When a fragrance enters the "skin scent" phase, is it still perceptible to other people?

    Too many factors to say for sure in any generalized fashion. If your nose detects it, it projects at least that far (based on your personal detection threshold). If you don't smell it, it doesn't...
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    Re: What are your favorite Jovoys?

    Private Label was nice indeed. Although there was an accord/quality in it that vaguely reminded me of a certain home-made alcoholic beverage (and it didn't feel like it was because of a sample gone...
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    Re: Vintage fragrance I bought today

    Just my personal take on it, of course - and I'm a musician too, btw! :coolold:

    Not to derail this thread too much, but you could also say the emotional state - maybe even blood sugar level and...
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    Re: Vintage fragrance I bought today

    Agua Brava - with a twist! :lolk:

    Mit freundlicher Empfehlung - Atmos Arzneimittel

    Mucolytisches Expectorans - Broncho-Sekretolyticum :eek:

    Funny stuff! Pure joy like seeing Jovan Sex...
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    Re: Vintage fragrance I bought today

    Just wanted to add this informative thread: https://www.basenotes.net/threads/302112-Has-anyone-tried-vintage-Lapidus-Pour-Homme-(1987)

    To distinguish the "deep vintage" Lapidus pour Homme, here's...
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    Re: Vintage fragrance I bought today

    The current Lapidus pH is 82%.
  77. Re: Why, I'm particularly enjoying my scent today - March 2021

    Sung Homme. I enjoy this reformulated and blind bought cheapie classic - and I also like the fact that price point doesn't dictate the level of personal enjoyment for me.
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    Re: Vintage fragrance I bought today

    I guess it also depends on the criteria/pickiness of each person.

    When wearing fragrances as I normally do (under the shirt, on the chest), the differences are not as pronounced compared to...
  79. Re: What's the last frag you physically scrubbed off, and when?

    I assume this was with the current Kouros? I find it to perform very well too, and while not having done side by side tests with a vintage (only going by memory), I think Kouros still has got some...
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    Re: Vintage fragrance I bought today

    Lapidus pour Homme, original 85% formulation. 30 ml will last me a while, because one spray is pretty much all that's needed.

    The vintage is wonderful indeed, but - as almost invariably turns out...
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    Re: Herbal/aromatic fragrances?

    A very good one, in both vintage and current formulation.



    I'm a big fan of Palais Jamais. Not much talked about. I love it as much as ManRose, another great and even less talked about Etro...
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    Re: Fragrances that "WOW" you recently in 2021?

    Pierre Cardin pour Monsieur (vintage) - civilized and gentlemanly, the kind of non-candy sweet I like, drydown smooth as ****. Another successful blind buy.
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    Re: Your 2021 Fragrance Balance

    +26 bottles
    +1 mini
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    Re: Vintage fragrance I bought today

    Thanks!



    Thank you - that Furyo of yours is looking awesome too! Speaking of which, a 30 ml Furyo is currently on its way to me. Another blind buy! How are you liking it?
  85. Re: What's the last frag you physically scrubbed off, and when?

    Never really happened to the extent of having to rush to the bathroom to scrub off a scent, but when sampling Yatagan, I didn't want to leave it reeking on the back of my hand so I opted to wash it...
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    Re: Today I bought March 2021

    Sung Homme. Cheap blind buy.

    I was expecting a boring and generic scent (and of course, "butchered by reformulation" lol) but to my surprise this opens with an exhilarating aromatic blast. Strong...
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    Re: Your Vintage Scent of the Day (SOTD)

    Pierre Cardin pour Monsieur EdT (Made in France, late 80's probably). Smells great. As for similarities with Sex Appeal, yes there are some, but both have their own character and as such it's not...
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    Re: Vintage fragrance I bought today

    Blind buy. Made in France and reads "UTIF" on bottle and box, which indicates pre-90's.

    I got this yesterday, have worn it twice now and what can I say, a fantastic and comforting scent! Not a...
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    Re: Vintage Antaeus Thread

    Yeah, despite having no experience with the vintage, it's easy too see/smell what you mean by current Antaeus being "tweaked to be modern". The castoreum indeed is just an approximation of it.
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    Re: Your Vintage Scent of the Day (SOTD)

    A good one! In vintage as well as current form.
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    Re: Your Vintage Scent of the Day (SOTD)

    Only owning the current Originale, I'd like to sniff the vintage GG to see if there's more civet. I wouldn't mind if there was more of it, to give it a little more bite. As for depth and warmth, I...
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    Re: The official Ralph Lauren Polo Green thread

    After wearing Polo Green vintage a couple of times now, I find significant overlap with Fou d'Absinthe. But while Fou d'Absinthe is like a bland "modernized take" on it, Polo is far from boring or...
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    Re: Anxiety around over spraying

    Agreed. Smelling of anything "artificial" may be considered "overspraying" in certain surroundings, if the cultural ideal is to "smell clean" (i.e., to not smell at all).
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    Re: Your Vintage Scent of the Day (SOTD)

    Mine was boxed, as well as unused (judging by the air bubbles in the sprayer tube). The top notes in mine are definitely not as citrusy as reviews say. It's quite dense, vaguely "berry jam" like and...
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    Re: Vintage Antaeus Thread

    In the current Antaeus, I only get a fleeting and occasional castoreum note. I'd love it if there was more of that growl, as the (too pleasant) florals seem to overwhelm it before the scent...
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    Re: Kouros thread question

    Well, it would be not THAT far-fetched if a certain country is overwhelmed and all the vintage sellers in the hospital! :eek:

    Anyway, I'm reasonably happy with the current iteration. It's...
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    Re: Your Vintage Scent of the Day (SOTD)

    2nd formulation Paco Rabanne pour Homme.

    This is surprisingly close to Bond No. 9 Great Jones (to be fair, I should phrase it the other way around of course). I have read about the resemblance...
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    Re: Your Vintage Scent of the Day (SOTD)

    Quite tempted to seek this version out. The earliest "pour Homme" I just bought is good but not as fresh-citrusy as I expected (it's quite aromatic and resinous piney, which is not a negative of...
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    Re: Vintage fragrance I bought today

    Traditionally mossy, less soapy and "loud" than current. The sprayer design feels like an afterthought though: after a few sprays a trickle of the juice was running down the side of the bottle.
    ...
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    Re: Kouros thread question

    Interesting! I only started buying vintages last year, so I had no idea that the pandemic would have an impact on the supply.
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