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    Re: Simple "Oud" Formula

    Got your idea.
    In that case, I would suggest to use Cypriol heart instead of the EO, it is cleaner and less intrusive version of it.
    Also, watch out on the quality of Benzoin resinoid, I found it...
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    Re: Simple "Oud" Formula

    Interesting and simple, thank you.
    May be a touch of isobutyl quinoline will add more depth.
    It will surely get more depth and woody facets adding Indian Patchouli absolute or Patchouli heart in...
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    Re: What did you do in Perfumery today?

    I've combined internet research and my perfumery experience to make KFC's spice blend.
    The result was fantastic, I would say 95% identical to the KFC of the 90's, definitely fingers licking stuff!!
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    Re: What did you do in Perfumery today?

    Wow, very beautiful!!
    I've accidentally lost a formula I did write on iPhone note app, I remember my fingers hurt... :)
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    Re: Confusing CP label

    I don't take much of risks saying that this is confusing for everyone in here !
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    Re: What did you do in Perfumery today?

    Uh Uh... how??? the sale was on 20% only is'nt it?
  7. Re: A French Supplier Never Mentioned Here Before (I think)

    I don't know what did you order, but some AC's can show minty notes when it is in pure form or very lightly diluted.
  8. Re: A French Supplier Never Mentioned Here Before (I think)

    (Regarding their website)
    Let's say you got 10 g of their Filbertone
    Your bottle will contain 1g of Filbertone and 9 g of Alcohol

    (On the bottle)
    It is weird to have Filbertone G (90% V/V) on...
  9. Re: A French Supplier Never Mentioned Here Before (I think)

    Their natural offering is also at 10% dillution, even 1% for some...
    Reasonable price? I don't think so.
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    Re: nivea handcreme note

    According to BN, Nymphaea was online Yesterday 07:37 PM...
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    Re: nivea handcreme note

    Is this blog still up? it seems that only "invited" people can access to this link...
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    Re: Nivea Cream accord

    I'm digging up this threads, as I see the participants are still active in the forum.
    @nicok, any news on that second accord ? :)
  13. Re: A French Supplier Never Mentioned Here Before (I think)

    You will find this on most of their offering:

    3g of Ambroxan at 24 €?....hummmm....No thanks !
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    Re: PCW Now Has Lots Of New Perfume Bases

    Sorry for that unintentional amalgam.
    I think BN is the best forum for the simple reason of sanctioning bad habbits, whatever the user profil, pro or begginer.
    I don't like the word "sanction" but...
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    Re: PCW Now Has Lots Of New Perfume Bases

    Of course you are not concerned with these terms Bill, I have much respect for you as a person and as a contributor to this forum, so please, don't feel any unease reading this.

    Perfumers with...
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    Re: PCW Now Has Lots Of New Perfume Bases

    Some bases or pre-made accords (available for public sale) are made mostly for DIY beginners like myself to help them understanding the art of blending... Making your own accords will come naturally...
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    Re: PCW Now Has Lots Of New Perfume Bases

    No love for the Orris butter base?
    I though it will be in the top 5...
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    Re: The smell of money

    Fixateur 505 E in conjunction with IES does give me an impression of money paper note.
    I forgot about the dollars smell, I don't remember it having the same note as the euro...
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    Re: What did you do in Perfumery today?

    Wow, what a story.
    Glad you did make it with the little cow... that's quite a story there RSG, thank you for sharing.
    I use chewing gum to remove the stickers from the skin, it does work, just chew...
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    Re: PCW Now Has Lots Of New Perfume Bases

    I'm receiving some naughty winks from their civet vegan base.
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    Re: What did you do in Perfumery today?

    I have bought some very nice prickly pears to understand the taste/note, the plate is empty now and I forgot about the reason why I bought them as they was an extreme joy to eat :D
    I had the orange...
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    Re: Is TGSC gone for good?

    It is back...
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    Re: Is TGSC gone for good?

    Which talk?
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    Re: Is TGSC gone for good?

    WHAT THE... I really, really hope it is just a temporary issue otherwise It will be really a serious damage to the DIY community...
    Has anyone done any data dump of tgsc???
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    Re: Sourcing Lignin

    Fixateur 505 E has a very distinct old books note to my nose; mostly in the dry down.
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    Re: Wool musk Absolute

    First of all I've never compared it to deer musk, I don't know from where you have read that statement.

    Having a farm in Europe, I can say that, in France and Germany (at least to my knowledge),...
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    Re: Wool musk Absolute

    Very impressive, thank you junior_surgeon.
    It does confirm the outrageous overpricing strategy of some sellers (Hermitage in this case) reclaiming a musky character that has to be proven.
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    Re: Wool musk Absolute

    Thank you juior_surgeon, very informative.


    I was skeptical on the musky charactere of this stuff. If it lasts only the most of the day at 100% on your skin, I don't know how we can call this a...
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    Is that a mini Butaflor kit ?

    In one of his travels in India, Alessandro Gualtieri was using a little butane kit (Butaflor?) to exctract the concrete of a flower.

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    Have you any idea on this kind of little bottles?...
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    Re: Wool musk Absolute

    I don't have a lot of experiences on making absolute, I've only made 3 types of it.
    Lanolin seems to be very greasy, Ethanol may not do the job as a prime solvent.
    I think the most important at...
  31. Re: Oh no... apparently I can't get Hedione HC. I mean the genuine stuff

    The queen hit again... Christine, you're the best !
    https://perfumersupplyhouse.com/product/hedione-hc/
  32. Re: Weird cloudy solution when making an Incense accord

    I suggest you to not waste the fine non denatured alcohol you do have to clean your beakers, cheap pharmaceutical 90° Ethanol will do the job.
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    Re: Ebanol vs Firsantol

    Both.
    To my nose Ebanol is more noticeable than Firsantol.
    Using a single molecule will not get you to a genuine/rich Sandalwood note unless you consider building up an accord using many single...
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    Re: Wool musk Absolute

    Raw linolin...
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    Re: Wool musk Absolute

    There are different grades of Lanolin.

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    Haven't smelled any of them yet, but I will guess that the raw impure lanolin is the one to consider for perfumery use.

    Hermitage description...
  36. Re: Weird cloudy solution when making an Incense accord

    Detergents may contain PFAS called "forever chemicals", leading in the "forever washing" situation if water only is used.
    I'm not sure if it is the case here, but try to wash your beaker with...
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    Re: Peach Resin or Tao Jiao in Perfumery

    Done few researchs, it seems to be packed with collagen with not much taste... An interesting experiment to take with a pinch of salt IMHO.
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    Wool musk Absolute

    Hermitageoils is offering what is seems to be a one of a kind type of natural musk called "Wool musk Absolute".
    It is extracted from "happy" sheep's wool.
    I failed to find any trace or reference to...
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    Re: Fakety fake fake fake, now a confirmed fact: Creating Perfume Bergamot "Essential Oil"

    You know what, even if they are or will be offering 100% genuine stuff, they completely lost me on this:



    ...THIS IS A JOKE !!!
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    Re: Fakety fake fake fake, now a confirmed fact: Creating Perfume Bergamot "Essential Oil"

    Thanks Bill, CP is in my blacklist now and forever.
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    Re: Materials That You Hate

    Shangralide (this is Galaxolide undergoing forced cross-dressing)
    Orris absolute - 1% Irones (at 1% Irones I don't know what use for it... absolutely Horrible... I don't even believe how this can be...
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    Re: Any thoughts on herbalveda.co.uk ?

    Thanks for your taughts Bill.
    Agreed.
    As I have some of finest Shamamas in my collection, I guess I will try some of theirs to verify the quality, this will cost me some bucks for sure, but if they...
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    Any thoughts on herbalveda.co.uk ?

    I found an interesting natural supplier in the UK, selling some Kanauj specialty at a good price https://herbalveda.co.uk/
    Have you any feedbacks/thoughts on this supplier?
    Thanks
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    Re: Ambrinol Vendor?

    https://www.directpcw.com/fr/accueil/378-3009-ambrinol.html#/1-volume-10g
    https://www.perfumiarz.com/produkt/ambrinol-s-25-ml/
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    Re: Replacement for Grisambrene

    You may consider Ambrarome absolute + natural Ambreine and/or labdanum.
  46. Re: DIY Suppliers List ------Editing in progress 12/2013

    It is for the exact opposite reason that I avoid superstitious sellers.
    Based on their beliefs, they can adulterate any material they produce, (radiation, ionisation, traces of whatever holy...
  47. Re: DIY Suppliers List ------Editing in progress 12/2013

    Thanks for your feedback :)
  48. Re: DIY Suppliers List ------Editing in progress 12/2013

    Seems amazing... will test this supplier for sure.
    Thanks for sharing.
  49. Re: DIY Suppliers List ------Editing in progress 12/2013

    Have you tested their siam benzoin absolute? how would you compare it to some from other suppliers? It is really rare to find a good quality theses days...
    I would love to try the apothecarysgarden...
  50. Re: DIY Suppliers List ------Editing in progress 12/2013

    Thanks Bill.
    As I am far from my home country, I can only speak using my memory, the scent profile of the Frangipani abs I have was really nice, creamy, full of Plumeria blooming, peachy, narcotic,...
  51. Re: DIY Suppliers List ------Editing in progress 12/2013

    Interesting and confusing enough, the Frangipani Absolute offered by perfumerworld is described as "Dark brown liquid".
    https://www.perfumersworld.com/view.php?pro_id=8ON00534

    May be the one I...
  52. Re: DIY Suppliers List ------Editing in progress 12/2013

    Despite this, I do have a Frangipani absolute that I bought directly from the distiller in India.
    It is liquid... clear yellowish color, no stickiness...
    I did not test any Frangipani absolute...
  53. Re: DIY Suppliers List ------Editing in progress 12/2013

    Frangipani absolute may be an example (9.13 € for 1g)
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    Re: Question about Civet Absolute(Robertet)

    What is their MOQ? Do they sell to non pro people?
  55. Re: Making nice room spray at an affordable price?

    It will make a lot of sense if they buy their Oud synth 100 times cheaper, as the Firmenich stuff (to my nose) is dosed really high in their composition.
    For 500 ml final product, I will guess they...
  56. Making nice room spray at an affordable price?

    I have smelled recentely a fantastic room freshener produced in Saudi Arabia of a realy good quality.
    I get jasmin and vanilla accord with some lactones, hedione, benzaldehyde, benzoin, musks...
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    Re: Review: Auram Tonkin 4768-6/D

    auraminternational.com is no more, the only url working is auram.net and it look pretty amateurish...
    Does someone know something about what happened to this company?
  58. Re: Rose Absolute VS EO? A Question for everyone, if I make a Natural Rose Base for sale

    Check your PM.
  59. Re: Rose Absolute VS EO? A Question for everyone, if I make a Natural Rose Base for sale

    Many will be more than happy if they can buy Taef rose EO type of base somewhere.
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    Re: Damask Rose Absolute Gone Off?!

    It may be more helpful for you and informative for us to name that "problematic" seller one day or another...
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    Re: Damask Rose Absolute Gone Off?!

    The first things to consider beside the reliability of your seller are the storage conditions + cross contamination factor (e.g. if you are using a glass pipette, or have used a cleaned bottle to...
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    Re: Areej le Doré : The Official Discussion Thread

    Thank you!
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    Re: Areej le Doré : The Official Discussion Thread

    What's the name of this perfume and perfumer? I failed to find any USSR perfume named "Indian antal" on ebay...
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    Re: Areej le Doré : The Official Discussion Thread

    To be deleted
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    Re: Louis Vuitton Pur Oud (type)

    I've bought an oud perfume (Oudh al Anfar - Oud Hindi Suyufi) many years ago, it was simply few drops of pure Indian oud on a white musk base and some alcohol... for 30€ (100ml).

    150337

    It will...
  66. Re: Where do you put testing strips when they’re aging?

    Between two relatively heavy books.
  67. Re: Millésime Très Banal – Bare Bones Creed/Cool Water Like Formula

    Actually no.
    "L'oseille" is the name of a vegetable, but its phonetic pronunciation was used in history as a distortion of "Os" meaning "bones", a term used to name "money" once it was introduced as...
  68. Re: Millésime Très Banal – Bare Bones Creed/Cool Water Like Formula

    "l'oseille" means "money" in urban french
  69. Re: Millésime Très Banal – Bare Bones Creed/Cool Water Like Formula

    Une fois ta formule terminée tu pourrais probablement l'appeler Millésime j'ai de l'oseille :laugh:
  70. Thread: Exaltone

    by apolo085
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    Re: Exaltone

    https://www.basenotes.net/threads/487006-Building-sweet-ambery-base
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    Re: Rice accord ideas?

    I wonder if you can still cook the rice grains after tincture it... :)
    I never did rice tincture, but I doubt that it will have enough power/impact to be noticed in a blend especially with some...
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    Re: Again question about vanilla absolute

    That's why I marked it as "Out of subject" :)
    And long exposure to micro doses of methanol may not be ideal either...
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    Re: Again question about vanilla absolute

    Out of subject: As low as it can be on your compositions, methanol can be very dangerous to inhale/touch.
    https://www.basenotes.net/threads/471706-Ethanol-Methanol...
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    Re: Again question about vanilla absolute

    As Bill mentioned, are you using Mistral "perfumer alcohol"?
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    Re: Optimal pH for Hedione HC stability

    Still, I think a buffering agent is a tool that a perfumer must have in case of using compounds causing acidity in the mixture(as rarely as this happens).
    Till now I did not find any data on a...
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    Re: Optimal pH for Hedione HC stability

    My pleasure

    From the PDF:


    I did not found any PH metter marked as high-proof ethanol safe-use, any idea?

    On buffering and esterification:
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    Re: Optimal pH for Hedione HC stability

    Sorry, the link was corrupted, you got the correct one.
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    Re: Optimal pH for Hedione HC stability

    A lovely paper on making buffering solution and measuring perfume PH https://www.naturalperfumers.com/Proper-pH-Accords-Perfumes-Tinctures-NPI-NPG-white-paper.pdf
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    Re: Optimal pH for Hedione HC stability

    I've read that labs and big companies are testing the PH (between other tests) after exposing the perfume to extreme aging condition (heat, cold...etc).
    So it may be negligible changes at the most...
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    Re: Optimal pH for Hedione HC stability

    Given we have the right tool/technic of measurement, still I don't know the ideal time to measure the mixture (for a perfume still in creation progress) as the PH is changing till reaching an...
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    Re: Optimal pH for Hedione HC stability

    Thank you.
    I believe I have read about the limited usage of Hedione HC in one of David Ruskin posts, but the PH interval was not mentioned.
    Is there any cheap PH meter in the market working for an...
  82. Thread: Vanillins

    by apolo085
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    Re: Vanillins

    So true! I get no "real" chocolate from the Vanillins what so ever.
    But I still found the combination interesting as the Vanillin is more creamy, and the Ethy Vanillin more "powdery" and powerful...
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    Re: Building sweet ambery base

    Are you kidding? I can see you enjoying it lol
    May be you will be the one who will bring "jasmine lactone" to retail... :D
  84. Thread: Super ambers

    by apolo085
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    Re: Super ambers

    My perception for "superambers" is quite simple: High impact materials + more free space in your formula + more economical in the most of usecases
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    Re: Building sweet ambery base

    Incredible how this AC's retail business is full of opportunities that only one take it as it should (regarding my experiences), you may probably think about that same person aswell...
    I can picture...
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    Re: Building sweet ambery base

    I hope you bought it under a business transaction with the shelf life specified in the order form, in this case you will be covered as you know..
    Otherwise, I hope the seller will be smart enough to...
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    Re: Building sweet ambery base

    That was my bad, I writed Romanolide instead of Romanone, I'm editing my post now
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    Re: Building sweet ambery base

    Sorry for misleading you, I meant Romanone not Romanolide
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    Re: Building sweet ambery base

    Hahaha, funny but so real...
    To me Pell Wall is on the same track, the shelf life of some of their generic materials is just a joke.
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    Re: Amouage Jubilation XXV

    As the french say "Let's eat pasta and butter till the end of this month" lol

    I am by no mean against this, I support it, Ensar, Adam, Dimitri etc... they have no choice but using the best quality...
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    Re: Amouage Jubilation XXV

    It is more from my credit card than Ensar...
    Joke aside, I was raised in Arabic perfumery, since my childhood, I've smelled what is considered today as "legendary perfumes" (some are rebonrning...
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    Re: Amouage Jubilation XXV

    Oh sorry, I guess I took this a little bit too serious... That's what happen when you buy the new Sultan Leather Ghalia from Ensar Oud at its price just before reading this... hah
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    Re: Amouage Jubilation XXV

    Resuming Arabic perfumery in cumin and oud?... I feel sorry for you with all my honesty.
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    Re: Amouage Jubilation XXV

    You need to learn more about Arabic perfumery and its history buddy... It is way more complex and sophisticated than your guerlain or whatever french made and is far way from "throwing few oils...
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    Re: Building sweet ambery base

    I got a feedback from PCW, they don't want to share the brand of their Cyclopentadecanone, and they found sufficient to just say that it is an "equivalent of the Firmenich's Exaltone".
    Doesn't help...
  96. Re: Mistralni (UK) perfumers alcohol - completely unsuitable for perfumes. What's the option?

    Thank you !
    Do you know if they sell their Ethanol to public (non licenced people), MOQ?
  97. Re: Mistralni (UK) perfumers alcohol - completely unsuitable for perfumes. What's the option?

    Can you share your source for the French Alcohol?
    I am living in France and despite my sincere efforts, I have never succeeded to find a public retailer for Ethanol of good quality based in this...
  98. Re: Mistralni (UK) perfumers alcohol - completely unsuitable for perfumes. What's the option?

    Thank you, please update us with that information if you succeed to get it.
  99. Re: Mistralni (UK) perfumers alcohol - completely unsuitable for perfumes. What's the option?

    Do you know the denaturing agent(s) for this one? I did not read such information on their website (bananablue1927.de)
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    Re: Building sweet ambery base

    What to do Bill.. It seems that we need to wear hats and smoke pipes to buy some AC's nowadays...
    As this thread is public, I wonder if you will get a "honest" response if you ask PW... Just...
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