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  1. Re: PONK - A 'nose' club - Blind nose training amongst ourselves. Anyone interested?

    Looks good Mumsy :thumbup:

    At first sight I think it would be especially beneficial for beginners.

    It is certainly versatile. Time will tell if it's something that I, personally, could make a...
  2. Re: PONK - A 'nose' club - Blind nose training amongst ourselves. Anyone interested?

    Thank you for taking the time to explain :)

    Obviously I totally misunderstood...

    Basically it's a subscription for a blind-buy sample of perfumery raw materials, right? Meaning that you are the...
  3. Re: PONK - A 'nose' club - Blind nose training amongst ourselves. Anyone interested?

    Hi Mumsy,

    Thank you for working so much practical stuff out!

    I have a few practical questions, if I may.

    Do I understand you right that 1 person sends out 1 material to all participants? And...
  4. Re: PONK - A 'nose' club - Blind nose training amongst ourselves. Anyone interested?

    What mumsy says, dear :kiss:

    And I'm so excited to see so many dear members joining in, really that's the best x-mas present ever!

    Big hug for mumsy, I hear you. So excited, wish we could start...
  5. Re: PONK - A 'nose' club - Blind nose training amongst ourselves. Anyone interested?

    Another potential PONK-er checking in ;) You know where I live :lolk:

    Love the idea of building something outside BN, just in case of another black-out or whatever but keeping a life line here....
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game: CLOSED

    Well done everyone, I, for one, am grateful to have smelled your hard work! :vrolijk_26: Amazing how the same brief can give so different and interesting results :beer:

    A special congrats to...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game: CLOSED

    Feedback has been sent to Boye1 by pm. 1 day to go on Paul's and then my part is done ;)

    Have fun with yours Mumsy & David!
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game: CLOSED

    Nizan, please re-read the OP:



    The game is not over as not everyone involved had the time to complete the brief in time or to provide feedback due to personal issues. Each of us have different...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game: CLOSED

    ColHP & Renegade, you've got feedback via pm. :vrolijk_26:
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    Re: Where have all the women gone?

    I like BN. But I also like fragrantica, MUA and several facebook groups.

    Personally I have to prioritize, my time is limited.

    I made some very good friends here and I deeply cherish my best...
  11. Re: Perfumers thoughts / opinions etc. on the IFRA / EU situation

    Commercial perfumer here.

    I don't mind regulations, IFRA nor EU. It's a huge and very important part of the job and flexibility for a commercial perfumer is key.

    For outsiders it's impossible...
  12. Re: What year were allergens required to be listed in ingredients?

    A post I did a while ago, it's not up to date, but it does answer your question: 2003
    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/322549-IFRA-restrictions-and-EU-regulations-are-NOT-the-same-some-facts
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game: CLOSED

    PK's entry is also here :thumbup:

    What % should it be diluted?
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game: CLOSING END OCTOBER!

    I received Boye1's entry.

    And began testing and making notes on Renegade's and ColHP's ones :vrolijk_26:
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game: CLOSING END OCTOBER!

    So far no other perfumes have arrived besides the ones from Renegade & ColHP. I'll begin evaluating those timely entries next week and will pm my feedback.

    Delayed entries will unfortunately mean...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game: CLOSING END OCTOBER!

    Sorry to hear about that, Adam, hope you're okay. Glad there is a 'smell tank' available :dankk2:

    Hope that PK's and Boye's entries will make it by Halloween :evil:
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game: CLOSING END OCTOBER!

    :dankk2: Renegade :beer:
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game: CLOSING END OCTOBER!

    No worries, Renegade, I am always grateful for mysteries :beer: Is it a raw material or your own composition?

    I have separated the 2 and the Supergirl dilution is resting in a 'virgin' container...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game: CLOSING END OCTOBER!

    Sounds great, Boye :thumbup:

    I have received the entries from
    ColHP
    Renegade.

    Thank you, Renegade for the extra mystery sample, that's some mighty strong stuff so I hope it won't smell...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game: CLOSING END OCTOBER!

    Great to hear from you :thumbsup:

    Sent you a pm with my address, please ask Mumsy's.

    So the finalists are:
    ColHP
    Renegade
    I.D.Adam
    Pkiler
    Boye1
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game: CLOSING END OCTOBER!

    Glad to hear from you, Paul :)

    To recap, I've got confirmation that there are 4 entries, from:
    ColHP
    Renegade
    I.D.Adam
    Pkiler

    Oh, before I forget, sending a dilution is fine, as long as...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game: CLOSING END OCTOBER!

    Great, Adam! :thumbup:

    Also my apologies if you have received my last pm 4x. I kept getting an error. The bug has been reported to the forum admin.
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game: CLOSING END OCTOBER!

    Hi guys,

    It's me again, Iron Girl ;)

    It's mid October and I only got confirmations from
    Col HP
    Renegade

    Courtesy of dear Mumsy, when she did a count a few months ago is that these...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game: CLOSING END OCTOBER!

    Hi guys,

    Sorry for the absence busy busy...

    The deadline of this project is long overdue.

    In order to give you feedback in a timely fashion and before Christmas ;) I am setting a clear...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    Just a quick hello from me, I am very grateful to Mumsy and David for lending a helping hand.

    Originally I offered to lend a hand with the IFRA and EU stuff. Unfortunately due to lack of time I...
  26. Well done, Pia! I truly hope you don't take the...

    Well done, Pia! I truly hope you don't take the crappy comments to heart....

    (and post/save this wonderful article elsewhere as well, as basenotes.net unfortunately keeps having technical troubles)
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    Poll: Re: Perfumer Conference

    Personally I would love to travel anywhere, but paid work is just too busy (and I need to travel a lot for that as well so I can't complain).
    For private parties ;) I'm more of a video conferencing...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    Wow, that sounds like so much fun! I call these experiences nose-cake haha :birthdays:
  29. Thread: V for Veronica

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    Re: V for Veronica

    Sounds like fun :) Love the pic :grin:
    Violiff is not one of favorites, too harsh and metallic to my nose (the green violet leaves aspect), but I'm glad you made it work :beer:
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    Re: IFRA Regulations - A simple question

    Sounds real pro, thank you for clarifying :thumbup: Luigi is totally right, you need at least a LLC. For good and affordable advice for cosmetic start-ups in the US I would highly recommend...
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    Re: Welsh Treemoss Tincture Challenge

    Any time :kiss:
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    Re: IFRA Regulations - A simple question

    I agree with Bill.

    As for my opinion, Adam, I simply answered your question:


    Both as an allergy sufferer as a professional. I think your biggest problems in the US are initiatives like these:...
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    Re: IFRA Regulations - A simple question

    :tekst-toppie:



    Agree with the bold.

    Adam, you could take a look at this thread, right here on BN:...
  34. Poll: Re: Have you ever experienced an allergic reaction to a fragrance?

    Bumping this for another thread on DIY
    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/407217-IFRA-Regulations-A-simple-question

    Yes, I am severely allergic to fragrance ingredients (among many other things)....
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    Re: Welsh Treemoss Tincture Challenge

    Glad you started a separate thread W&T :thumbup:

    When you have enough participants you send/pm me a count. Then you tell/pm me how big the samples that I send out should be (1 ml? 2 ml?). Based on...
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    Re: IFRA Regulations - A simple question

    Glad you liked my topic :)
    Interesting conclusion though...

    This is great advice:


    Perfume is a cosmetic, something people wear on their skin. How can you be a professional and follow a sound...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    Bummer, thank you for keeping in touch! If you need any help, please let us know :)



    Sounds like lots of fun :) Please let us know if participating is still viable for you? You might be quite...
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    Re: Upcoming Perfumer Chat on SPREECAST!

    I missed this one, due to unexpected visitors... seems to happen quite a lot these days so Sundays/weekends might be a problem for me as well :(
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    Re: Odeur de Champignon

    Very confused right now... :huh: what was all the discussion and advice good for?
  40. Sticky: Re: Stickies are mainly gone, but please read this one

    Hugs! (I didn't intend to sound mean spirited. It's a great idea, but still needs lots of work, so imho too early to promote it to a sticky)
  41. Re: Your help please: making a special BN perfume line for women/unisex (acquired tastes)

    Thank you for understanding. I will pass around a few samples of commercially produced living flower headspace reconstructions. It's not the lack of excitement, it's the dilemma between the costs...
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    Sorry W&T, I don't think that's a good idea. It's full of bugs, incomplete, inaccurate and personally I find it not user friendly for DIY purposes.
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    Re: Odeur de Champignon

    W&T where is the new thread on the Mumsy vs W&T method experiment?
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    Re: Upcoming Perfumer Chat on SPREECAST!

    I'll try to make it. I might tune in later cos it's diner time here, hope to get the room cleared with the best internet connection. Ow and using headphones is indeed most easy to follow, the echo...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    Hi W&T :)
    Please keep in mind that we are very busy people. Just like with a real client, you will have to make all the hard choices and present to us the result of your labour. While I personally...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    Great to read your enthusiasm :)

    Please for our sanity ;) restrain yourself to 1 finished fragrance per participant, at the end of the game.

    I gather you are going for option 1 (50 materials...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    Actually E2MB and EB have the same flashpoint (26 degrees Celsius). EB has an added risk of dermal 'toxicity'. Most esters should be handled with care. Hell, most aromatics. Please keep your head in...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    Sniff away my friend ;)
    'Toxic' is relative.
    If you're referring to the aromachemical with CAS# 7452-79-1 here is the safety sheet from Vigon, read for yourself:...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    Welcome to the game :beer:



    Don't give away too much ;)
    And please be careful with Ethyl-2-Methylbutyrate, highly flammable stuff, very volatile and toxic when inhaled so be careful to wear a...
  50. Re: Your help please: making a special BN perfume line for men/unisex (acquired tastes)

    Wow, that sounds cool! I have no clue, but I'll do my best and channel my inner Gemma Teller Morrow ;)



    Good ideas :beer: I can only make safe to use perfumes (IFRA/EU compliant) though...

    ...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    Must be getting old, but I can't make out what it is? A formula?
  52. Re: Your help please: making a special BN perfume line for men/unisex (acquired tastes)

    :grin: You fooled me ;) Thanks, I'll do my best!
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    Sure, you can team up :) Please do let us know when you entry a sample if it was a joint or an individual effort.
    You can also do both: 1 individual blend, 1 group blend.
  54. Re: Your help please: making a special BN perfume line for men/unisex (acquired tastes)

    Sounds lovely, thank you :)



    Interesting, thanks! What is Castrol R twostroke? ;)



    Some interesting combinations, some frags I never heard of. Thank you for the challenging input :)
  55. Re: Your help please: making a special BN perfume line for men/unisex (acquired tastes)

    Sounds like a fun challenge, thank you :)



    Very intriguing indeed, I'll see if that can work, thank you :)
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    Hearing you on Marvel ;)
    Looking forward to your contribution! :beer:
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    Re: Grateful for an endowment to PK Perfumes

    Welcome to the secret garden, Paul! Enjoy :)
  58. Re: Your help please: making a special BN perfume line for women/unisex (acquired tastes)

    I can imagine the challenge to find a realistic rose or jasmine in modern perfume. Making one is very very very expensive and time consuming. Mostly cos perfumers tend to don't just imitate nature,...
  59. Re: Your help please: making a special BN perfume line for men/unisex (acquired tastes)

    Sounds fun, thank you for your thoughts! :)



    Interesting! Maybe cos ginger materials are hard to work with (solubility problems)? I will try though, thanks :beer:
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    Fun, glad to have you on board :) Please do feel free and ask any questions!



    Fun find, thank you, hun :tekst-toppie:
    BPAL http://blackphoenixalchemylab.com/ does lots of comic stuff too.
  61. Re: Your help please: making a special BN perfume line for women/unisex (acquired tastes)

    @slniecko glad that I get what you mean :thumbsup:



    Wow, thank you, you use totally different and surprising descriptors for 'cool', glad I asked! :vrolijk_1:

    To my nose those descriptors...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    :)
    I felt very much inspired by the trailer of the upcoming series (see OP). Like a pop cultural mashup of the Devil wears Prada goes Wonderwoman goes Glee. And if you google images you get so many...
  63. Re: Your help please: making a special BN perfume line for women/unisex (acquired tastes)

    Sounds gorgeous! Thank you :)
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    What awesome advise from our brightest David & Mumsy, thank you, you are the best :beer:

    And welcome to everyone joining in, I can't wait to smell your progress. If there are any other questions...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    If you have an EDP at 20%, that would mean 0.02% pure absolute. To my nose that is definitely going to make a difference.
    But I may have missed something: are you going with option no 3? You can...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    Great to hear that :)

    IFRA max 0.1% in the finished fragrance (thus depending on how much % your dilution is, you do the math what the % should be in the fragrance concentrate)
    EU above 0.001%...
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    Re: Odeur de Champignon

    I agree with the bolded. But I disagree that price shouldn't be asked in the questionnaire as it was 1 of the pivotal premises of W&T: by making a tincture of the same quality in less time, this will...
  68. Re: Your help please: making a special BN perfume line for women/unisex (acquired tastes)

    Cool :coolold: I love menthol too! (sniff Vicks inhalers all day to 'clear my nose' in between smelling sessions if I don't have time for a walk outside) Did any of you smell Esprit du Tigre by James...
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    Re: Odeur de Champignon

    W&T, sounds good. I would strongly advise to include measuring 'quality', that is your most important dependent variable (on a scale of 0-100). And something like 'price': 'how much would you be...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    W&T, I sent you a pm ;)
    Bill, please let me know if you'd like to join?

    And is anyone that expressed interest 100% sure they want to partake in this game?
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    Re: Odeur de Champignon

    Great points, both Bill and David, thank you. Indeed it all boils down to what, why, when and how.

    And all these questions are context and client/market related. If a client wants a fast...
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    Re: Odeur de Champignon

    Dear David, you know that I cannot get cross with you :)

    I really appreciate the dialogue. Let's hope W&T does too. Maybe you can offer some insight on what kind of criteria you as a perfumer will...
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    Re: Odeur de Champignon

    Bill & David, if I may.

    W&T needs to make up his mind: what is the question you want answer to (experimental question)? What is the hypothesis?

    This is what I understood so far, please correct...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    I think you got the 2 mixed up? 2 different things, dear.

    Of course if you go for option 1 you could use a tincture, I guess. Risky with customs, but your risk to take, sure.
  75. Re: Your help please: making a special BN perfume line for men/unisex (acquired tastes)

    Sounds nice, thank you :) Not sure what you mean with the text I've bolded...



    Goes on the list, thanks :)



    Nice, one, classy, thank you :)
  76. Re: Your help please: making a special BN perfume line for women/unisex (acquired tastes)

    Sounds nice, thanks :)



    Love the idea, thank you for sharing, sounds beautiful :)
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    Re: Odeur de Champignon

    Hi guys, no worries, just me being a grumpy cat (too busy doing stuff I don't like)

    38294

    So here is the deal: I can do the 'blinding' of the samples, sure.

    BUT...

    W&T: it's your...
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    Re: Odeur de Champignon

    Whatever rocks your world, guys ;) My list was merely an example of typical sound sensory research. Please do whatever 'artistic' take on it that fits your purpose. If you need my help, I'm just a...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    Your are welcome to join, W&T :) Non-flammable fragrance concentrate is preferred due to many postal restrictions. We wouldn't want your precious work to be destroyed by the customs...
  80. Re: Your help please: making a special BN perfume line for men/unisex (acquired tastes)

    Thank you, how lovely to hear the background of your request! I'll look into more information on this specific plant, especially its scent and the availability of perfumery materials that would be...
  81. Re: Your help please: making a special BN perfume line for women/unisex (acquired tastes)

    Thank you. Would you be so kind and elaborate on what you mean with 'deeper note'?

    p.s. I'm already creating perfume and have been for years. I'm an eclectic classically trained perfumer so I'll...
  82. Re: Your help please: making a special BN perfume line for men/unisex (acquired tastes)

    Please feel free to brainstorm, so far everyone has been so kind :kiss:



    Sounds good! May I ask though: why specifically 'dense Egyptian basil oil'?
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    Re: Physicists / chemists wanted

    I think we should give W&T a break. It's his theory and his to use for his own perfume creations (I just saw that you sell your own creations, W&T). If it works and you'll get very rich and famous,...
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    Re: Odeur de Champignon

    Hun, do take care!
    (and thank you for the kind words, I hope to help you in some way to realize your dream)

    W&T, for a good empirical experiment you need to make sure to describe in detail your...
  85. Re: Your help please: making a special BN perfume line for men/unisex (acquired tastes)

    Thank you so much for taking the time to explain in such depth, that really helps :)
    I will do my best!



    Sounds interesting. Valerian root essential oil is truly vile. Very very stinky. Thank...
  86. Re: Your help please: making a special BN perfume line for women/unisex (acquired tastes)

    Thank you all, most interesting and inspiring! :)



    Thank you so much for elaborating, I'm beginning to grasp what you mean. This will be a lovely challenge in a personal way as well. As don't...
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    Re: Physicists / chemists wanted

    Hun, I just wrote about it in your other thread ;)
    (sorry gotta go and mix some stuff)
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    Re: Odeur de Champignon

    W&T = short for Wood & Tobacco (I'm lazy)

    If you want I can organize. Do blind testing matrices all the time ;)
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    Re: Odeur de Champignon

    Sorry, dear, didn't mean to sound depressed. Okay, maybe a bit overworked.
    But sometimes I get this overwhelming feeling that the DIY peeps need a reality check.

    I love my job. I love the rush,...
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    Re: Odeur de Champignon

    David, I understand what you mean. But I have data that leans more towards W & T: most unsophisticated consumers don't really care that much.

    I think W & T that defining your niche (are these...
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    Re: Physicists / chemists wanted

    :thumbup:

    Imho it's easier to learn things right from the beginning, then unlearn things you've done wrong for years and then learn the right away anew. (from experience, I began as an artisan and...
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    Re: Physicists / chemists wanted

    W&T, that data is available for free, on the website that PK provided. It's not flawless though and not always up to date, mind you.

    Your idea is not new (okay maybe new for DIY), so I would...
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    Re: Odeur de Champignon

    That is a commercial attitude :beer:

    I don't see the 'artisan' thing being a good fit though... If time is money then buying it from someone else, still makes most sense.
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    Re: Odeur de Champignon

    Mind you, dear, it's not all luxury fine fragrances. Most of my work is applied functional perfumery, think a face cream that smells of peaches, a handcream that smells of roses, an allergen free...
  95. Re: Your help please: making a special BN perfume line for women/unisex (acquired tastes)

    Thank you so much for your thoughtful answers, they are really inspiring :dankk2:



    This sounds fascinating. Would you please care to elaborate? Thank you.

    p.s. I'm not planning on doing a...
  96. Re: Your help please: making a special BN perfume line for men/unisex (acquired tastes)

    Wow, guys, I'm blown away!

    So many great and interesting ideas, you are truly an inspiration, thank you :beer:

    I'll get to work and please feel free to add on, the ideas are not limited to 1...
  97. Your help please: making a special BN perfume line for women/unisex (acquired tastes)

    Hi everyone!

    I've posted a similar thread on the 'Male Fragrance Discussion' subforum....
  98. Your help please: making a special BN perfume line for men/unisex (acquired tastes)

    Hi everyone!

    I've posted a similar thread on the 'Female Fragrance Discussion' subforum....
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    Re: Odeur de Champignon

    Sometimes. Imho not major anymore in most cases unfortunately. Major factors atm: trends, market, price, fast turn-around. You have to do the best you can to pay the bills. Sometimes I need to churn...
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    Re: Physicists / chemists wanted

    Totally agree. This discussion is a perfect example of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empiricism vs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_positivism

    W&T, I wish you a wholehearted break-through, who...
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