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    Re: Apple notes that sit in the middle?

    Manzanate has a bit of a melon smell. Hexyl valerate and a bit of alpha damascone maybe? It may be helpful if you stated which direction you are trying to go in. Is it the main notes you want to...
  2. Re: Vetiver Materials - Building a Vetiver Perfume

    Mmmm Ruh Khus is fabulous, but I think most prefer the lightly dosed types of vetiver. I like mine on the dark and spicy side.
  3. Re: Happy News at PA! Liatrix Absolute Substitute Has Been Fixed, Now Reads As Such

    Great work to the benefit of us all. Thank you, Bill.
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    Re: Soft Peach Base? Help... LOL!

    Oh great. =)
  5. Re: Oh no... apparently I can't get Hedione HC. I mean the genuine stuff

    Ahh, that makes sense. I figured if they are adding CAS #'s, it must be because they are adding it to the material. Yes, I wish the information was more transparent from SAS MATIÈRES PREMIÈRES...
  6. Re: Oh no... apparently I can't get Hedione HC. I mean the genuine stuff

    So when I see the SDS states it has mixtures, does it mean they have purposefully added it? Like: alpha-Irone 79-69-6 201-219-6 [ 5-10 ] for ORRIS CONCRETE 8% - IRISC0010

    Thanks for the suggestion...
  7. Re: Oh no... apparently I can't get Hedione HC. I mean the genuine stuff

    And https://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/msds/8985.pdf ?
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    Re: Soft Peach Base? Help... LOL!

    Is this the one you were writing about? https://www.basenotes.net/threads/486954-Peach-accord
    If not, how long ago did you acquire the formula?
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    Re: Opinion and suggestion re Creating Perfume

    It's spread through the different live videos, but they did make a statement of how they acquired Creating Perfumes here: https://youtu.be/VbhSeBjXYMM?t=350
    They only touch a little bit about...
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    Re: Opinion and suggestion re Creating Perfume

    They didn't elaborate, but it could also be that it contained "banned" components. I was digging around and did see that where there was lack of information for accords, there was added information...
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    Re: Semen or Callery Pear

    They are in the rose family. Everything in the rose family has damascenone, including apples (smell their skins). Fructone, damascenone, and whatever putrid AC I bet would get it a step closer...
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    Re: Opinion and suggestion re Creating Perfume

    Moonalisa, I did love Ms. Susan's Autumnal accords. I saw on one of the live videos from the new owners where they said they can't re-make the accords. They said that every formula Susan had were...
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    Re: Opinion and suggestion re Creating Perfume

    Bill Roberts, I wasn't suggesting that is the only way to get customer service. =) It's just another option. Sorry you had/have problems with their CS.
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    Re: Concentration querry

    To the original poster, you can test it yourself. Take your 10 parts,10% diluted material and see if it has the same impact as 1 part 100%.
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    Re: Concentration querry

    I wish I could find the article, but am having troubles. It stated that once an aroma chemical has been diluted, it changes the volatility, so no, if you use something diluted to 10%, you can never...
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    Re: Opinion and suggestion re Creating Perfume

    They do weekly live Youtube videos and you can ask away. https://www.youtube.com/c/AloraDillon/
    They have talked about the migration to a new website, told us to e-mail her suggestions for any...
  17. Re: DIY steam distillation using a plastic vegetable steamer

    This person makes fragrances as such:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y_7sGaHNHM
    Comments are similar there as it is here. ;)
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    Re: BlackBerry Accord

    Oh, and Raspberry Ketone is also in blackberries (the Rubus family) https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/4-_4-Hydroxyphenyl_-2-butanone...
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    Re: BlackBerry Accord

    Aloha El Haddad. There are lots of papers out there https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225892914_Determination_of_Aroma_Compounds_in_Blackberry_by_GCMS_Analysis is a relatively short one....
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    Re: An attempt to shake up the creative process

    Is the formula shiny when you spray it? DPG is a humectant, it attracts water from the air, that's why some see it as having fixative qualities as it slows down evaporation.
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    Re: Brooklyn Fragrance Lover

    I have watched his videos too and am sad to hear of his passing. 3 or so months ago he mentioned he was in hospital for the low potassium, but he also mentioned he had a few heart attacks. I...
  22. Just for giggles since Valentines is coming up

    It was worth a little giggle, though the video is old.
    https://youtu.be/IrNHyJGTt20

    Look at the amount of Vanillin added. Hehehe.
  23. Re: how can I make fig scent with essential oil ?

    Deleted since it isn't an EO.
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    Re: Anyone ever ordered from perfumersworld.com?

    Beyondperfumer, no, it isn't hedione that I received. The IFF IES does have a softer cedar scent. The one I received from PStudio is acrid, dirty, sharp. Not pleasant at all.
  25. Re: Manufacturer Quality Assurance - IFF - Tonquitone

    Bkkorn, same. My lot # being 1261K425642. I had to wait a few weeks to smell it because everything was tainted by Cypress in that order. I can't seem to make it work with anything because it's so...
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    Re: Allergens, irritation and sensitization

    I was just surprised, 20% is not a small amount to be having a reaction to a substance that wasn't even there. The power of suggestion I guess. Terpinene and pinenes was also high on that list, which...
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    Allergens, irritation and sensitization

    Just thought I'd share a piece I found when researching Peru Balsam and other allergen causing compounds. I found the study interesting because some of the double blind/placebo tests found 20+%...
  28. Thread: Accord Game

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    Re: Accord Game

    RSG Cranberry

    I still have a limited palette...but for cranberry:
    Limonene D
    Ethyl butyrate
    Hydroxycitronellal pure (high laurine)
    Cis-3 Hexenyl Acetate
    Fructone
    Ald 9
    Cinnamyl acetate
  29. Re: Warning of Fraud Ambergrishunter.com and all its rooted/linked profile

    Some of what he's selling looks like dog poop after overwintering:
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/411769719267447/user/592630250
  30. Re: Warning of Fraud Ambergrishunter.com and all its rooted/linked profile

    Report them to FTC, BBB, and of course Paypal as others have suggested above.
    Fair Trade Commission can move to block their internet listing from USA access with enough complaints.
  31. Thread: Benzyl Acetate

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    Re: Benzyl Acetate

    You will find nail polish remover (acetone) smell when it has gone off for a lot of things. I got mine from PA months ago and it smells like banana skin/ylang. Lot #190318
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    Re: The worlds best perfume

    You are in luck, there's a whole forum of perfumers, newbie level to commercial, at your fingertips. You just have to search.
    Men's scent is very broad.
    Find fragrance trees and see what branch is...
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    Re: Maltol crystals vs. Ethyl Maltol crystals

    One is less potent than the other. ;)
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    Re: 2021 SFP International Perfumer Competition

    Kacper Kafel , 50% already? Doing much better than I. Hang in there.
    About the contest...what is the rationale for having an age limit? If it has to do with presumed experience, there is no age...
  35. Thread: Le Melange

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    Re: Le Melange

    The pages does state: "*'d items are our 7% solutions and have been diluted in pure, jojoba oil to make them more affordable."
    I think some things can be cheaper through sources we've discussed in...
  36. Thread: Le Melange

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    Re: Le Melange

    BBB File Opened: 1/22/2010
    Years in Business: 16
    Business Started: 1/5/2005
    Type of Entity: Limited Liability Company (LLC)
    5/5 customer rating, not BBB rated. It seems they have been in business...
  37. Re: Must (very) small businesses, like Etsy sellers, be IFRA compliant?

    Quay Limey, Aromatic Fragrances International.
  38. Re: Must (very) small businesses, like Etsy sellers, be IFRA compliant?

    Bobby Seven, yes there are companies that do this. They will reproduce your fragrance for you and do the paperwork, however you have to have a registered business/tax # to work with them.
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    Re: Anyone ever ordered from perfumersworld.com?

    Even something as basic as ISO E Super. I thought it smelled terrible, until I got one specifically labelled IFF from PA. This is cleaner, lighter, has a floral hint to it. The one I had from...
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    Re: Coffee Tincture

    SanJuanWinnie, att 1000 IU, you want to use at least .5% to 1% of your tincture (by weight).
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    Re: Coffee Tincture

    Pkiler,
    Thanks for sharing your experience with it and congratulations on the fragrance debut! I also find it very useful to strengthen naturals with longer lasting aroma chemicals, or I will use...
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    Re: Anyone ever ordered from perfumersworld.com?

    If you are buying from them, note that most of their products do not show SDS information, so you never know what you are really getting. Something to think about if you use materials that will be...
  43. Thread: Salty notes

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    Re: Salty notes

    Run a simple test, beyondperfumer, make 1 cup of boiling water without anything, and then another boiling cup with natural sea salt, tell me if you can't smell the minerals. ;)
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    Archives, books on perfumes.

    Just sharing a resource. Archive.org has some books available to read freely, and some can be checked out through their online library. (Amazon has a lot of the newer books available to read w/their...
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    Re: Coffee Tincture

    Devil's Son In Law, BHT also is used as preservative. Used many times in my toiletry making days. =)
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    Re: The secret to beauty

    The whole eating acidic or alkaline thing is a myth if you have a healthy pancreas/stomach. It will neutralize what enters it to the correct PH for your body. I started taking Chromium Picolinate to...
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    Re: Coffee Tincture

    If you want to make a tincture stronger in smell, you have to "recharge" it by straining and putting in fresh material weekly/monthly until you reach the desired strength, also use some form of...
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    Re: Who sells IFF-LMR products?

    Well sheesh, I had written PW for Perfumer's World before I knew there was a Pell Wall. I will certainly write them out if I ever need in the future. Hehe.
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    Re: Gamma Methyl Ionone Effects

    Bill Roberts,
    Thanks! I guess this is a study project for me so I can understand it better too. =) Much appreciated.
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    Re: Carnation Accord

    I used to work in a nursery. Each carnation has a different smell, depending on variety, but especially color. Red carnations were very spicy with eugenol.
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    Re: Gamma Methyl Ionone Effects

    I don't know if this will be helpful for you at all: http://www.leffingwell.com/chirality/gamma_ionone.htm
    Isn't the reason it's called gamma because it takes higher heat to activate the release of...
  52. Re: I'm confused and not sure what I should order (Kit Suggestions)

    You can limit the items by shopping by oflactory family. (Citrus, fruity, a little gourmande, and study the aldehydes). I suggest studying as much as you can prior to purchasing so you know why...
  53. Thread: plum accord

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    Re: plum accord

    Yes, I noticed ylang added more texture, sweetness, and made it a little more leaning feminine.
  54. Thread: Accord Game

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    Re: Accord Game

    Looking at my notes for Autumn forest accord:
    linalyl acetate herbal terpy woody
    Hexyl cinnamic aldehyde cinnamon/clove balsamic like the oily skins of winter melons past their prime
    ethyl...
  55. Re: Tincture experiments, what has been your favorite or most successful?

    alexandrinemontcroix, I especially love using what I grow in making fragrances for myself and family. There are some aromas that are completely lost when processed at high temperatures which I can...
  56. Thread: plum accord

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    Re: plum accord

    It isn't flat, I forgot to add that the Isomuscone was diluted in ethanol to 10%. It is on the sweet side from the ylang. It's on my re-do list and I will try it w/o the ylang (sweet and feminine...
  57. Thread: Accord Game

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    Re: Accord Game

    Velvione, vertofix, pyralone (leatherbound), Cypriol Heart, furfural heavily diluted and I know it sounds a little weird, but heavily diluted geosmin.
    (still being a rebel and going above 5...
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    Re: Middle Note Sweetener?

    Does florol have too much character? Benzyl acetate diluted to 10%ish?
    Edited. I re-read that. Your main component is florol. ;) Solly.
  59. Thread: plum accord

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    Re: plum accord

    Comparing yours to mine, maybe mine is too complicated:
    .02 Damascone Beta
    .02 Ylang Ylang extra
    .02 Ethyl Linalyl Acetate
    .03 Anisyl acetate
    .03 Hydroxycitronellal Pure (High Laurine)
    .03...
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    Re: The Sandalwood Game Proposal & Entries

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  61. Thread: Accord Game

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    Re: Accord Game

    It would. ;) I haven't worked with hydratropic aldehyde (I don't think), is it similar to hyacinth body?
  62. Thread: Accord Game

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    Re: Accord Game

    OLD 80's TAXI
    2,6-dimethyloct-7-en-2-ol, leptospermum scoparium, CAS #100209-23-2, cis-4-hexen-1-ol, nonane, and leather accord since it's limited (for all of the suede/leather jackets rubbing...
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    Re: Hand crimper not compatible??

    I just noticed the "self-crimping" systems, is that what you're talking of? I wonder how it is better than a screw on type, I've not had much experience with the bottling aspect of fragrances, other...
  64. Thread: Salty notes

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    Re: Salty notes

    I tinctured some red celery that smelled salty. I know celery seed is used as a salt substitute and there does exist celery seed E.O. It's in the same family as Lovage (Apiaceae).
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    Re: Salty notes

    deleted repeat
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    Re: The Sandalwood Game Proposal & Entries

    Sorry, stepping out of this one. I messed up and not enough time to formulate again obviously. =) /bow
  67. Thread: Accord Game

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    Re: Accord Game

    COCA COLA HAIRSPRAY CLOUD
    Cinnamic Alcohol, Vanilla abs, citrus accord, C-12 MNA, Ethylene Brassylate

    Juicy persimmon
  68. Re: Is $75USD per litre a high price to pay for Perfumers Alcohol?

    I tried ordering from Culinary Solvent, but it seems they don't ship to Minnesota.
  69. Re: Is $75USD per litre a high price to pay for Perfumers Alcohol?

    Yes, one can find it at Laballey, Saveonscents, Creatingperfumes, Perfumer's Apprentice for around $80 and under for the gallon.
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    Re: The Sandalwood Game Proposal & Entries

    SubUmbra, I think people only find it offensive if you call a person oriental. In the past it was used to describe an object from the East, or inspired from Eastern traditions. I grew up being called...
  71. Thread: Accord Game

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    Re: Accord Game

    Essential oils of Coriander, immortelle, ginger, Freskomenthe, sweet orange essential oil

    Moist camping
    Edit
    NM, someone else went when I got distracted. =P I don't know about brushed metal.
  72. Thread: Accord Game

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    Re: Accord Game

    Missing an adjective, but ripe cantaloupe Melonal (Symrise), isobutyl acetate, Ethyl Methyl-2-Butyrate, cis-6-Nonenol, cis-3-hexenyl acetate.

    dark /Opium poppy
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    Re: How Paul Kiler ruined my day

    Quay Limey, aigoo, well I haven't smelled an RD fragrance yet. He did make a suggestion for a fragrance to try, and he actually guessed correct, that I'm a chypre type. I'm intrigued and will make an...
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    Re: How Paul Kiler ruined my day

    I don't recall what I was searching for, but this thread was a fascinating read. =) There was a lady, known as "The Rootbeer lady" in the Boundary Waters that sold sassafras soda, I don't know how...
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    Re: Pompona Vanilla

    I'm still awaiting the beans. =)
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    Re: Orris materials

    There are sellers in the UK for Iris Pallida roots. It's the roots that makes orris butter. The larger the root, the older and more scent it will impart in whatever extraction method you use. You...
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    Re: Orris materials

    I made an orris butter tincture from 35 yr old iris roots. It started out as very light and sweet and has now developed a chocolate and violet smell. Maybe pick up some orris butter tincture to see...
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    Re: Pompona Vanilla

    Hehe. Well, there is an extract on there too, but it has low alcohol % so only good for cooking maybe. It's titled: Vanilla Pompona Extract - a Beautiful Flavor - by Isle of Vanilla. I just bought it...
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    Your rice aroma compounds, Bkkorn

    Good luck making marshmallow rice crispies.
    Here's a publication on the aroma compounds of rice.
    https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/jf7037373
    Roasted Barley extract has acetyl pyrazine. I've made...
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    Re: Efficient daily training for beginners

    I too started out a few months ago. I spent a lot of time reading, hoping my brain latches on to the useful information. I snorted in between to understand the materials being talked about. I then...
  81. Re: Looking for a „professional“ smelling formula i can do with the materials i own

    (not to help hijack this thread, but roasted barley extract (rice, it contains Acetyl Pyrazine), co2 butter extract, vaniatrope (caramel and vanilla smell as they are cooling) as possible helpers for...
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    Re: Musk in Aventus??

    Yes. .3 lime in 2.7 gram alcohol.
  83. Re: Looking for a „professional“ smelling formula i can do with the materials i own

    There are pure vanilla extracts with alcohol only as well. Hopefully it is that and not mixed with other things, like water. =)
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    Re: Pompona Vanilla

    An online shop in Etsy. It's listed as: Mexican Vanilla POMPONA Beans -About 4-5 inches long - Voladores Vanilla. I just looked and they only have 1 left. Oh no.
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    Re: Ethanol 95 PGF4

    Pkiler compiled a pretty comprehensive list here: https://www.basenotes.net/threads/461620-What-alcohol-do-I-use-An-Alcohol-Primer
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    Re: 10 Starting Ingredients

    Evernyl is fine, but oakmoss is a character. I prefer real oakmoss resinoid. It can carry a fragrance with a deep hum, while evernyl can be a little sharp.
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    Re: 10 Starting Ingredients

    danieldanieldaniel, it really depends on the things you are aiming to create. Sandalwood is a good base, instead of Atlas Cedar, maybe get the basic ISO E Super since it blends with lots of...
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    Re: Pompona Vanilla

    Pazzoballando, yes, the smoky and plum notes intrigued me. I saw that when it is picked, they look as large as bananas. V. pompona can only be found in South and Central America as of now, it's...
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    Pompona Vanilla

    I'm curious if anyone has worked with this type of vanilla from S. America. I've read that they grow as large as bananas and take a longer time to cure because of this.
    I just bought some myself to...
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    Re: which musks to use here!?

    MMmm Lilyflore and Romanolide.
  91. Thread: sex acoord

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    Re: sex acoord

    It's the first I've heard of this material, it's not available at the more common perfumery suppliers for the hobbyist in the USA.
  92. Thread: sex acoord

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    Re: sex acoord

    I just watched this video which reminded me of your post, undesrois. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXywyP1OEag
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    Re: Aventus ingredients

    Looking at my pineapple accord, I have these in it: Allyl Propionate, Pharaone, Calone, Geosmin, Floralozone (trace amounts for the watery notes), Galbanum resinoid, cis-3 hex acet, Buchu tropical...
  94. Re: Help me identify this "body odor" scent aspect!

    Rook, is your Basil EO "Basil extra linalool" type? I got some that smells like extra strength deodorant and powdery aspect, with the slight hint of coriander. Mine is a real beast that has to be...
  95. Re: Changing the pH of a solution to maintain homogenization when using crystals?

    You may be better off researching the different solvents, such as Benzyl benzoate or Benzyl salicylate. ;)
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    Re: Purpose of Terpenes in Perfumes

    Have you tried smelling the different terpene compounds you have by themselves first?
    Some smell dank, like old books, some smell camphorous.
    Some adds "texture" like a worker material than it...
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    Re: Loss of smell due to COVID-19

    Kacper Kafel, I was worried that I lost my sense of smell for half of a year. I'm sure it will return. (I've lost it twice in fact.) I give lots of soups with lots of veg my thanks for healing the...
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    Vintage Avon: Trailing Arbutus

    I found this in an Avon vault, thought I'd share it. There are two versions listed. I'm hoping that Lily of the Valley Wash is just an accord.
    Trailing Arbutus, a.k.a., Mayflower, Ground Laurel....
  99. Re: Deer musk and what to expect out of it when taking appart

    Oh my goodnuts! (sorry, cleaning it up)
    How will you preserve it? I heard Russian Adam speak of his preservation with a pink solution (I'm guessing pink curing salt).
    Thank you for sharing this.
  100. Thread: Elemi tincture

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    Re: Elemi tincture

    It's an oleoresin, full of fats and sticky resin. I enjoy your experimentation and thanks for sharing. =)
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