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  1. Re: Hexadecanolide (Juniper Lactone) VS Silvanone Supra

    THis might help:
    http://quintescential.ca/map/Musks/Macrocyclic%20Musks%20(MCM)(1920).html
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    Re: Anthony Hopkins (yes the actor) "AH" Edp?

    Any information on who the perfumer is?
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    Re: Honey signature

    As always..thank you Christine.
  4. Thread: Firstab

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    Firstab

    Any idea what Firstab is?
    https://d3ciwvs59ifrt8.cloudfront.net/69919873-986d-437e-a195-f798dd6627fa/d9e349b1-7ecb-49b3-9f0e-63cb2d253d0c.pdf

    Fir stabilizer?
    First absolutle?
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    Re: Firmenich Sharing Innovation 2020

    I am sure they would send one to you...


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    Re: help identifying this chem?

    Sandalrome
    http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/data/rw1009651.html

    Dartanol
    Odor Description:Sandalwood, creamy, floral-rose, cedarwood
    The same molecule as the IFF sandalwood odourant...
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    Firmenich Sharing Innovation 2020

    An exciting day today. I received my 2020 Sharing Innovation samples from Firmenich. I am so sad that the The TEA JASMINE SFE 987004 is potable and they are not able to sell it in North America. The...
  8. Thread: Musk Mapping

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    Re: Musk Mapping

    You are welcome Kittycat.
    I always see carrot seed so close to iris. That very dryness of orris
  9. Thread: Musk Mapping

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    Re: Musk Mapping

    I remember you sharing that honeycomb with me. IT is a good visual Mumsy
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    Re: Question regarding making formulas

    Hello, the professional term for creating the final "juice" that will most likely be diluted into ethanol, is called COMPOUNDING.
    There are professional companies around the world who will do this...
  11. Re: Red Amber aroma chem - IFF, Givaudan, Symrise.

    Thank you xii. I have to give credit where credit is due, and I thank my teachers in Grasse for that lovely inspiration. Amber is such a beautifully rich concept and so very useful as you explained.
  12. Thread: Perfume Game?

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    Re: Perfume Game?

    I will participate.
  13. Thread: Loss of smell

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    Re: Loss of smell

    Interesting article related to OP
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52043639
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    Re: Raw Material Suppliers in Canada

    You are not off.
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    Re: Muguet Accords

    Thanks for sharing your work. You are using materials that historically are not used to create the Muguet accord. I will enjoy trying it.
    I have attached a pdf of Muguet historical materials over...
  16. Thread: Loss of smell

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    Re: Loss of smell

    ..... but you know, I am now wondering if I had H1N1, or something like.... I can certainly say is was the worst respiratory flu I ever experienced.
  17. Thread: Loss of smell

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    Re: Loss of smell

    My smeller has returned, but not as acute as it was prior. Here is an interesting article on this: https://www.perfumerflavorist.com/fragrance/research/Recovering-a-Sense-of-Smell-504868681.html
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    Re: Musk Ambrette - replace

    Right you are Paul, I was asking for clarification and identified the CAS number. As you can see in the thread there is often confusion because of the name.
    "Musk Ambrette, as its name implies, has...
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    Re: Musk Ambrette - replace

    Are you referring to Musk Ambrette (Ambrette seed EO) CAS 8015-62-1 ?
    it's major constituent is Ambrettolide CAS 7779-50-2
  20. Re: Some reading materials for learners - PK Interview with Revista Olfato magazine

    LOL, that was my favourite back in the 70's, with it's Ionone, Cinnamaldehyde and Methyl Octine Carbonate
    I ordered a bottle a few years ago and they have destroyed it.

    Did you ever make a...
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    Re: Silicone Bulb Pipettes 10ml

    The bulbs at SKS are Monprene®, different than rubber or silicon. It look like rubber but is:

    Chemical Resistant to Water, Acids, Alcohols, Detergents and OilsExcellent UV Stability
    Exceptional...
  22. Re: New materials: advice on dilution and storage

    Generally perfumers will dilute materials that are too strong to use effectively at 100% or even 10%. High impact materials like the "aldehydes" are an example. Pyrazines are another. often diluted...
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    Re: Silicone Bulb Pipettes 10ml

    I purchased all mine from SKS two years ago, and haven't had any issues. I am very careful not to let material get into the bulb, always squeezing the material out, leaving air in the glass dropper...
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    Re: Smelling candle fragrances

    Thanks George and Parker for your responses. It was an academic question as I don’t scent candles and personally don’t use them. I find them ultimately too pervasive no matter how subtle the...
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    Re: Photos of your Perfume Organ - Just for Fun!

    I enjoy seeing these photos of other's workspace. Thank you for sharing and keep them coming.
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    Re: Smelling candle fragrances

    George, I have very little experience with scenting candles. Just curious, do you think there is a reaction with the chemicals when burnt that could change the actual properties, perhaps making the...
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    Re: Perfuwoman Formulas are Gone!

    where is the Iso E which makes up a good portion of the original formula? I am sure these "copies" are fine in their own right, but certainly not the actual formulas. good fun though I am sure.
  28. The people trying to save scents from extinction

    The smells of ordinary life, from traditional pubs to old books, are part of our culture and heritage – and many of them are in danger of being lost.
    ...
  29. Thread: What is it?

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    Re: What is it?

    exactly? one carbon and two hydrogen :coolold:

    https://colognoisseur.com/olfactory-chemistry-ethyl-maltol-angelic-candy-floss/
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    Re: Raw Material Suppliers in Canada

    Ha, I love Botanic Planet's "Orris Root Absolute". 50ml for $175. LOL
    I suspect that all their products are fragrance oils simple made up of aroma molecules. Nothing wrong with that, fragrance oils...
  31. Re: Chemistry advice on Irone Alpha and ionone derivatives

    Bill I think that's what makes this particular material interesting and "magical". It is not a simple material that everyone totally agrees on, and its effect is varied.
  32. Re: Methods of re-using some materials / Handy saving tricks

    I have chosen for my work to have my entire organ in small bottles each with their own glass dropper. I got tired of using plastic pipettes and/or washing endless glass droppers. Because each dropper...
  33. Re: Chemistry advice on Irone Alpha and ionone derivatives

    Great question!
    My experience is that the Ionone family is lovely, flowery, uplifting and pleasant to smell. The Irone of the Iris is powder, raw and earthy. With careful application of the Ionone...
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    Re: Ethylene brassylate, Aurantiol...and?

    Starting simple is wise. if you are playing with the elements of a white floral you could add Indole to your methyl anthranilate. you will have no problem detecting indole. :rolleyesold:

    As you...
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    Re: Raw Material Suppliers in Canada

    Most likely many of their oils are what they claim to be. Citrus oils for instance are inexpensive and do not require any adulteration.(they will go bad when stored for any length of time.) ...
  36. Thread: The diy lab

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    Re: The diy lab

    Yes it is a fairly inexpensive and effective method for individual labelling. Load the label cartridge into the machine, type out on the screen what you want, and press print. The label comes out the...
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    Re: Raw Material Suppliers in Canada

    same thing. look: https://www.botanicuniverse.com/products/hyacinth-absolute

    no such thing

    no MSDS paperwork. All these companies are the same... and probably the actual same company with...
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    Re: Raw Material Suppliers in Canada

    seeroos.syed you need to be aware that not all the products Sunrise sell are actually what they say they are. For instance Vanilla EO, there is NO WAY they can sell it for $99 for 100ml. Vanilla at...
  39. Thread: The diy lab

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    Re: The diy lab

    Yes, I use a Brother P-touch label maker.
    There are many colours and widths available for these printers. I find the labels always stick well, peel of easy when I want to take them off, and are...
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    Re: Alpha Damascone ?

    2-cyclopentyl cyclopentanone is in Lauren according to Camps
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    Re: New to BN- ISO Tiare Absolute

    LOL, here we go again. these Delhi, India guys just keep changing names...
    however they are selling Vanilla Absolute 100 ml (3.38 fl oz): for $47.14... so get in on THAT sale. LOL
    "Our...
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    Re: Cost of naturals vs ac

    I suggest you look at Quintis in Australia. They are growing beautiful sustainable Santalum album originating from the seeds from Mysore, India. They have been cultivating for over 20 years now. I...
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    Re: Alternative perfumery?

    My 2˘ on this is that one needs to walk before they run. A crafts person needs to understand the rules before breaking them, in order to create something of quality communication. This is assuming...
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    Re: ScenTree Classification

    Musk> Animalic> Green

    Hmmm., can't say I think of it as green musk either.
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    ScenTree Classification

    This is kinda fun. You have to play around with it to get the feel, but there is a fair amount of information there.
    ScenTree
    ScenTree Launches Interactive Fragrance Material Tool in English
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    Re: An formula from 1963

    You say tomato and I say tomato
    You are pedantic, and I am effusive.
    :2vrolijk_08:

    Quite right George... I stand corrected, it wasn't meant to be a mathematical proof just a wild-ass statement.
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    Re: Macerating naturals

    My opinion is that maceration time may be correlated to the number of actual chemical in the formula. Considering that Essential Oils, etc. consist of potentially hundreds of individual aroma...
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    Re: An formula from 1963

    You can just smell this can't you... like all the little vintage "french Paris" sample bottles. All so similar, riffing off of Chanel 5. Aldehydes so ubiquitous then, ... as Dihydromyrcenol, Iso E...
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    Re: Formula With No Quantities Listed

    Do mind me asking where you purchased your ambrette from India?
    That Mr. Roberts is a smart fellow. A great way to work things out.
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    Re: Formula With No Quantities Listed

    I am intrigued by your statement "early 1970's I wore a mixture of 2 essential oils, musk and patchouli". Patchouli is clear enough and unambiguous , but Musk is not. Considering the number of...
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    Re: AC and EO Pairs

    Thank for sharing your experience. Your thread title is AC and EO Pairs. I assume you are referring to Cassis Base 345B which is not an EO. Am I missing something here, sorry for being so slow. \...
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    Re: online searches and excel

    Try pasting the formula into the formula bar. do not paste it directly into the cell. Seems to make a difference.
    I hope I understood your question?
    ...
  53. Left-handed women's quirk over sense of smell

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-50315440

    Humans really don’t know how this smell thing works. One day perhaps.
  54. Re: Free Florals: The EBook sponsored by Berje

    oops, I searched but didn't find it. I found it odd that it wasn't posted. LOL
    Mea culpa
  55. Free Florals: The EBook sponsored by Berje

    https://www.perfumerflavorist.com/fragrance/rawmaterials/natural/Florals-The-EBook-513507221.html
  56. Thread: Musk Ambrette

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    Re: Musk Ambrette

    great article BIll. thanks
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    Re: The Deepest (Nondescript) Aroma Available?

    You can find my comprehensive musk mapping here: http://quintescential.ca/map/Musks.html
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    Re: Cinnamon top note

    There is quite a difference between Cinnamon leaf oil and Cinnamon bark oil. Which one do you refer to? Cinnamon leaf oil is predominately eugenol and of course the bark is predominately...
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    Re: Coffee Blossom

    I don’t know Bill, they are selling Hyacinth Absolute oil from the Netherlands for 100 ml for C$61.82. It’s got to be the real stuff⸮ [emoji12]


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    Hedione Hedione Hedione

    Thank you for that link. I love “Finding the right accord is creation. Finding the balance is technicality.”
    That one remark, based on decades of experience, says volumes!
  61. Thread: Oil and Water

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    Oil and Water

    Thanks for your experience on this Bill. The polysorbates and PEG are readily available, but after reading that article earlier I thought the decyl glucoside or coco glucoside looked effective,...
  62. Thread: Oil and Water

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    Oil and Water

    Thea, where did your post go??
  63. Thread: Oil and Water

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    Re: Oil and Water

    I have used good scents for years and never even noticed this aspect. Thank you DanaB. I am strictly alcohol perfume so I have never really stepped into the functional perfumery arena, other than...
  64. Thread: Oil and Water

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    Oil and Water

    Ok, you chemistry folks.

    I want essential oil to mix with water; to stay in solution and not separate. In your experience what is the most, innocuous, inert, no smell material that will join these...
  65. Thread: Musk Mapping

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    Re: Musk Mapping

    I am so pleased that you find this useful Ben Paris. It was a good exercise to allow me to see the span of Musk materials and get them into my head.
    Musk-Have... good pun btw.
    I think when I get a...
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    Re: Improving top notes

    Bergamot is the traditional material for "natural" top notes because it contains huge amounts of the important linalyl acetate, limonene and linalool.
    Grapefruit is is also important as it is...
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    Re: "Mulacro" Essential Oil - Arcadi Boix Camps

    Camps
    "Later on, back in Europe and settled in Cabrils, Spain, I analyzed the mulacro oil and found extremely rare and interesting chemicals. I can tell you right now that almost nobody in the...
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    Re: "Mulacro" Essential Oil - Arcadi Boix Camps

    Camps
    " I was discovering new essential oils in my quest for natural ingredients, many unknown to perfumers. Oneof the best was labeled by locals as “mulacro” oil (a slang shortening of...
  69. Re: Free Florals EBOOK from Perfumer & Flavorist, it's really great information, GET IT!

    Yes, got it already.
    It is a fun read and interestingly there is information on Page 4 related to the recent Basenotes post on Rose Oxide.
    Ah Roses... so very complicated and so very beautiful.
  70. Thread: Hinokitiol

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    Re: Hinokitiol

    Are you actually asking what pairs best with these materials, or is there something else under your question?
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    Re: Storage Lengths - Assistance pls

    Wow, Ivor that is some pricey stuff. 2ml = 118.00 euro.
    You can buy 2ml of Rose Bulgaria absolute from Eden Botanicals for 21.63 euro.
  72. Re: Fragrance Too Weak in Fractionated Coconut Oil

    Hello Miakoda,

    If you would like to succeed in making quality perfume then you need to use quality materials. As Bill has indicated "the general field of fragrance oils is all cheap mixtures of...
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    Re: Coumarin and Tonka Bean Abs

    You are welcome. As an aside, I am working on a reproduction of an AVEDA product for an associate, and would sure like to speak with someone in their formualtion department. I am attempting to make a...
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    Re: Coumarin and Tonka Bean Abs

    There is approx 80-90% Coumarin in Tonka Bean Absolute
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    Re: Taking my leave

    Glad to have met you Paul on Basenotes DIY all those years ago. It has been interesting watching you develop into a perfumer. First being the one asking the questions to later answering other’s...
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    Formula: Brazilian Rosewood Oil Replacer

    Great to have you back Jamie. I am sorry for your losses.
    Thanks, as always, for your contributions.
    Ho Wood was one of the first materials I purchased when starting out, completely oblivious to...
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    Re: First perfume - what to add?

    My recommendation tarata would be that you start with learning about a basic Cologne formula. ie: a fresh, zesty, citrus-heavy. simple and effective and indicative of where modern perfume started....
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    List of safest synthetics?

    There are opinions and there are facts. Don’t confuse the two, it does not serve humanity well, as we see daily in our global news reporting. Get your facts straight. There is no magic list of safe...
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    Re: List of safest synthetics?

    SAFE is a label relative to DOSAGE... (and many other things.) You CANNOT separate the two. Some humans react to certain chemicals. Other chemicals would kill anyone in a small dosage. Some chemical...
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    Re: List of safest synthetics?

    What actual professional training or experience do you have? This is misinformation.
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    Re: symroxane: what do we know about it?

    I appreciate you taking the time to share your impressions of this material.
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    Re: Something similar to Spikenard / Liquorice?

    Have you considered including small amounts of Myrrh or Tarragon if you are looking for raw material?
    Are you looking for a gourmand or herbal?

    Anethol isolate, or perhaps an AnisicAldehyde.
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    Re: ‘Sexy’ elements

    GMTweed, your Cashmeran is about as close to a musk that you have in your accord. It is not primarily a Musk material and lacks the aromatic benzene ring structure, which is present throughout the...
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    Re: Sour Balsamic Vinegar Note?

    Absolutely, we use many fragrant vinegars in our kitchen often ....but I wouldn't wear them personally.
    I don't know if you were referring to my comments but I said the vinegar smell in Red Wine it...
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    Re: Perfumery excel spreadsheet-

    That thread is 2 year old
  86. Re: How do I get freshly laundered linens smell ?

    Hello,
    Generally you would need musks(Galaxolide is the go to for laundry, but there are many others), aldehydes c-10, c11, and perhaps something like dihydromyrcenol. Ozonic materials like...
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    Re: Sour Balsamic Vinegar Note?

    Yup I would try a cognac oil.
    To me, there are many different red wines, in fact thousands (LOL), and each has their own distinct smell. That is an entire world of smell distinction unto itself....
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    Re: Geraniol (95) vs. Geraniol (Natural)

    The MSDS(SAFETY DATA SHEET) will give you some clues. One is from GERANIOL NATURAL FROM CITRONELLA OIL made up of 50-70% Geraniol and 25-40% Citronellol.

    and the other(Geraniol 95) is GERANIOL 94%...
  89. Thread: Loss of smell

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    Re: Loss of smell

    Thank you all for your suggestions and kind words. I know you share my despair at losing my smeller, and you "get" what it means; being of kindred spirits in the joy of scent. I will take your ideas...
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    Re: Diluting oils for diffusers

    Hilarious. TIA... I don’t speak acronym.
    I think you will find in the forum much discussion about blocked reeds. Seems to be a common issue.
    all the best
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    Diluting oils for diffusers

    Hi Tia, I know there is a ton of information from past years about this topic on this forum. Have you searched this forum for reed diffusers?...
  92. Thread: Loss of smell

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    Re: Loss of smell

    Thank you Mr. Prince.
  93. Thread: Loss of smell

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    Re: Loss of smell

    Thanks Geco... I am doing the zinc as well, and trying to breath deep.
  94. Thread: Loss of smell

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    Re: Loss of smell

    Thank you Bill. It is the damnedest thing really. I had expected some degradation as time marches us all to the grave and our bodies disintegrate LOL, but a complete shut down is startling. I remain...
  95. Thread: Loss of smell

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    Re: Loss of smell

    No way!!! sorry to hear this.
    xii you make a really good point about the sinuses. thanks
  96. Thread: Loss of smell

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    Re: Loss of smell

    Excellent Rhino... I am doing the saline wash. You give me hope.
  97. Thread: Loss of smell

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    Re: Loss of smell

    Thea, I have been ruminating on your comment all day. Yes, absolutely after all this time I could go from memory, and in fact it might bring some surprising results. In fact I am thinking that even...
  98. Thread: Loss of smell

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    Loss of smell

    I experienced a very bad head, throat, sinus cold in March. I have lost my sense of smell almost completely; unable to smell some of the strongest material. Since April the sense is improving only...
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    how to make notes disappear faster?

    George I don’t understand this. How can using more of a material cause it to last longer? I have never come across this concept.

    Also, I don’t believe I have ever heard anyone ask the OP question....
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    Re: Formula dilution percentages

    Not necessarily. Did you purchase it diluted? If so, I assume the label only indicates ml? It could have been diluted at 20% using weight, and then poured into a 50ml bottle.
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