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Not 100% accurate everywhere but as good a compilation as one will find:

https://www.creatingperfume.com/aromachemicalprofilesbyjanetprice.aspx

In the meantime do try open bottle work, it's (IMO anyway) great and consumes essentially nothing while providing learning and enjoyment.

Like you I am afraid to consume it in experiments or questionable efforts, and wherever possible I get my feelings of what it will do from open bottle work, or from adding to skin separately without...

I may be (actually, I have no idea, I do not know what I am talking about) overpaying with Ensar, but I have had zero reason to doubt the quality.

Suitability of any given oud to me or a given...

Well, that is a "mic drop" first post for sure!

Welcome to the forum!

And thank you for your very generous and quite promising looking software contribution!

Hazel, my apologies, for some reason I misunderstood you question and thought you were asking about building rose accords That is what my answer was towards.

On natural rose, you are right, they...

There are many modern creations I really can't stand. For me, the "super ambers" are major culprits.

Of course, they're successful, and many enjoy them.

Ambrocenide 10% ?!?!??!

I've bought only individual materials from Terpene University such as alpha-Thujene, beta-Elemene, Verbenone, trans-Nerolidol, Sabinene, and Myrcene. Very happy with each. But I have no idea on the...

I have only bought an isolate from them but Abstrax is one source.

If I remember correctly, Terpene University sells cannabis (perhaps from CBD-type, I don't know) terpene blends also, but I...

Pell Wall and PCW ( https://www.directpcw.com/ ) sell skatole. That is the real must-have for your stated purpose. It would be completely sufficient, and if you wish to go further, that would be I...

Hazel, I would more just leave it off for possibly later rather than be concerned for substituting. It is never going to be a major component; it will be well under 1% of the rose. Beeswax Abs can be...

If you started with 200 proof alcohol, as a guess you might (might) get away with 1:3 or 1:4 witch hazel to alcohol. With 190 proof, a little less.

It's possible I'm just annoyingly fussy but I feel the right geraniol and citronellol really are needed. It's not that Geraniol 95 or the like are bad, and once in a full fragrance I would probably...

That would be great to know!

It's a funny thing when finding something like this --...

The benzoic acid component of benzoic acid is or can be an antimicrobial preservative, but usually is effective only at low pH (which fragrance formulations ordinarily are not) and is irrelevant when...

No, the only reason to not try immediately is if you made so little that doing so would prevent your having enough later.

If it smells different later than now, then experiencing it both ways will...

In theory (and in practice if you want) you can count only the actual AC's and avoid counting any of the diluents that may have been included in the concentrate.

But usually that difference would...

I don't have Aldehyde C6 (trans-2 I suppose) but I am pretty sure that for anything put on skin, it's going to be about the toppiest of top. I am surprised there is anything left by 24 hours on...

Nothing magical goes on with fixatives. These are merely materials which remain on the skin for some time and in which aromamaterials dissolve well, thus causing a tendency for the aromamaterials to...

I don't have Karmawood. It looks like I really should then.

Thank you both!

Neither is the Perfumer's Apprentice "Liatrix Absolute," at least not if (they don't show it of course) the original manufacturer SDS is to be believed, which prominently and plainly says it is a...

I am not saying you're wrong, but to me it seems extraordinarily heavy in benzyl salicylate and Cedramber (collectively over half the formula), and in Okoumal and Firsantol which to me anyway are...

I find some similarity between alpha irone and alpha ionone in that they share a violet quality and arguably a litle berry tone, but the irone is to me even more "transparent" and is more "elegant,"...

Not wishing to be a contrarian, but, to me a good question is what is the point of an orris accord, and also, what would an "orris accord" be?

Is it to smell similar to some fine Orris Butter?...

I didn't know the answers to your questions but checking briefly, musk indane is CAS 15323-35-0 and doesn't have a optical isomer variants. There's just one molecular "version" of it though differing...

You're very welcome!

It has been moved to a different page on Julian's site: http://quintescential.ca/Musk%20map/Musks.html

You have to click on things, e.g. "Macrocyclic Musks," to expand them.

Yesterday as putting stuff away, I decided to ask what my wife thought on Paul's Tuberose, as I was planning to use it in an upcoming Carolina Herrera Carolina Herrera spinoff that would be for her...

Great news! :)

Very interesting! Thank you. When M7 came out I knew nothing about oud (or perfuming really) so every unfamiliar aspect pretty much, I attributed to "that must be oud!"

Ignorant, but so it goes.

Many will be bored by my saying so yet again, but as it can be an important point, the Perfumers Apprentice so-called "Key Accords" are simply renamed-to-sound-important free Givaudan demo formulas...

Well I still could be! :)

Or, if I do have the right one in mind, it underwent unfavorable reformulation and PWorld might not have tested the original.

Allegedly this originally used real oud, and then went to some Firmenich oud.

I really don't closely recall the fragrance so I cannot suggest which Firmenich oud to try, but generally I think...

It does look as if your site will work if knowing what one wants, websearching it, and going right to that link. I didn't take it all the way through to payment, but I did get to that point, when...

I wouldn't assume inferior product as a general rule. For some products yes, but for some it might be the opposite.

The most useful end product will not necessarily have the exact same balance of...

[accidental double post]

As she didn't do anything about misbranding on her site after being informed she has cases of it, except telling me to "ask" if I had concerns when ordering, I left her a zero star review on her...

I didn't save it, hopefully Julian can repost it.

In a PM I wrote some commentary on it that may have saved some of the information, but due to mailbox limitation I've been deleting my sent...

Thank you. Understood now, you meant risk of inhalation.

I certainly breathed a fair bit in grad school, as my professor (whom I expect was completely well founded, I couldn't name an exception I...

Agreed.

Incidentally, stickiness doesn't always correlate with being more soluble in ethanol than in low polarity solvent. It can be the other way around, e.g. with Sandarac. It depends on the...

It is. I don't have a figure for LN's material but I saw something like 30 percent in a paper!

The reason for risk isn't skin sensitization, which I think I'd forgive for personal use as Coffee...

The Coffee Flower is gorgeous. I just wish I believed it was safe to use plentifully (if at all.)

No knock whatsoever is intended on them for carrying a non-compliant material, only a real wish I...

I am guessing the problems are these:

Inventory is low and it could be that all the items you tried are not actually in stock. I tried adding linalool to the cart, as a test, and was able to get...

I would have thought I was on the site within about the last week with no problem, but it could have been longer.

The site isn't working for me either.

Their phone is 1-800-two-eight-nine-8427...

If it were a traditional absolute, generally yes, but as I believe Paul mentioned, sometimes CO2 extracts get called absolutes, and according to for example Perfumer's Apprentice all kinds of things...

My bet is that any substantial material that won't dissolve into 190 proof ethanol after dilution to final strength, most of the time also won't dissolve with addition of what I would call reasonable...

Frankincense is hard! (for me anyway)

While searching for Peonile and No Sport by La Parfumerie Moderne, I happened to find all 919 pages of Brechbill's book all in one place:...

Well it is available new but for a silly (to me) €180.00: https://www.laparfumeriemoderne.com/product-page/no-sport-3-4oz

Pell Wall say "Musk-like, spicy, floral, fruity, rich, musty Solvent." Even IFF says "musk-like" rather than musk, but many do say musk.

I did not continue using it largely for the reason of not...

When you opened your package, did it smell of Geosmin?

If not, cross contamination during transport with product inside other bottles cannot be an issue.

If yes, then as to whether other...

Well I received a nice prompt reply this morning!

But, language difficulty partly did me in, it looks like. (I wrote in English and was replied to in English. I failed to follow my usual...

Indeed, "musk" and also "amber" are terms that at the least could use a lot of disambiguation, particularly in popular media.

It does seem that often "musk" means nothing in particular, or has a...

You could shop at PSH and not go wrong with any of the bases offered in any category IMO.

That said, I don't know cost of shipping to the UK, nor of what may be at Pell Wall there.

I may have misread the question. I understood it as blue musk accords, but if it was blue musk accords meaning perfumes with substantial clean musk plus aquatic and or lavender/DHM, then my questions...

I don't care to give attention to such and advise against it. My only reason for posting was that advice. I am not going to advise such account creators as to why they are fairly obvious. I am not...

Probably saying the obvious and if so please forgive me, but for clarity the notes listed for perfumes do not necessarily, and usually IMO don't, refer to actual ingredients or even accords. In other...

What is "it" that smells blue to you?

The perfume?

The musk won't be blue. It is a marketing term only to add apparent appeal or specialness to the perfume, and perhaps to deal with those that...

Marketing.

As to what these marketing terms may mean when meaning anything beyond hoping to rope in more sales: http://perfumeshrine.blogspot.com/2010/03/musk-series-many-permutations-of-musk.html

I expect the OP is indeed having fun, as with other recent guaranteed-bait threads.

VPN?

Somewhat interestingly, back when AOL was "the world's largest anonymization service," a company I...

Re-reading the article now refreshed my memory. There were some sad omissions to my above post, as I expected. It's worth checking the article out. It may require a subscription, but it's free.

More from the standpoint of flavor than fragrance, but still, much information: https://media.allured.com/documents/PF_31_03_038_07.pdf

As I recall, unless the above or other proves me wrong,...

That said, you may have fun visiting the Leffingwell site, which has quite a bit of otherwise-hard-to-find info on aromamaterial families and their members.

And further, Leffingwell is rigorously...

"An alcohol" doesn't mean anything as there is no real commonality in smell among aromamaterials based on just having an alcohol (-OH) group.

Nearly every or perhaps all aromamaterials whose names...

Frankly, I see a pattern. Does anyone else?

I wouldn't know how to make up the other 96.37 percent if the limonene were cut down to 3.63 percent!

In this case nearly everything is toppy.

While one doesn't have to, keeping the limonene at...

Maybe theoretical chance of Ventos, Walsh much more likely.

I do not use it and have not smelled it directly for years but my sample was not bad and was not to me as described above.

Cashmeran...

You're very welcome, Amr!

I hope you enjoyed as much as I did! Thank you!

Now, surely, I ought to go make something for her with it. (Not the Absolute, the Bontoux.)

I have been beginning to suspect for a while that a lot of "IFF" products are counterfeit when not obtained through Ventos.

I don't have hard physical evidence to back that up, just a lot of stuff...

I grabbed them off of TGSC in the "Properties" section. I should have mentioned that, as it's not obvious.

The forum is DIY (do it yourself), not "I really want to avoid experimenting."

Websearch.

On this same subject, have any tried the John Steeles and might provide a comparison?

I have never bought a John Steele lavender largely because there are rather many* and there isn't enough...

An important note is that headspaces (which I guess but do not know this is) need vapor pressure correction if wanting to relate to a liquid mixture such as one's accord.

E.g., if in the headspace...

I had never noticed this one before (except with regard to mushroom), although I have more than once wondered about what minor components in lavender particularly add lavender character. We can't buy...

Hypothetically, the OP may not have meant being able to claim USP on a label or in any document.

In an example perhaps somewhat related, I put together what would be needed to produce a hand...

I'm glad you asked Yuri, because your doing so made for some very good home entertainment! :)

Btw I have checked and my bottle on which Christine hand wrote Lavender Spanish Bontoux is the same...

For a feminine I am particularly fond of Perfumer's Apprentice Lavender France Maillette (Vielle) and also their Lavender France Fleurs (Robertet), with their Fleurs being lighter and more coumarinic...

You're very welcome!

Vigon is always honest in their use of brand names. When they use a proprietary name such as Exaltolide, Exaltolide Total, Hedione, Hedione HC, etc that's exactly what it is. No worries there.
...

I don't consider it the smoothest or best but it is standardized and perhaps especially useful commercially for that reason.

I really don't think there's such a thing as a "standard" lavender,...

The Total is a nice material that, speaking imprecisely, to me gives a softer feel and enhances floralcy in a composition more than the original Exaltolide does, not from being purer but from...

I just discovered -- on paper anyway -- the new-to-me Vertofix Coeur Sales.

Not "Vertofix Coeur," which I had wanted to get and had asked Christine for and it seemed impossible, but "Vertofix...

No reason to add then, too much guesswork, except maybe to make a version at the end if you have testers and can ask which formula they like better.

It seems Linalool 50, meaning 5%, (or L-linalool 50) is quite commonly a good idea for a formula, and Rosewood does much the same.

Thank you GoldWine. Agreed.

That is, in the US and meaning retailer. I don't think I have ever seen such a problem or anyone saying there was with Rebekka at Liaison Carbone, and while there have...

Thank you!

The PA purports to be the Givaudan. Whether it is or not is of course another matter entirely. That is what I have myself, and I have never liked it. It looks as if I need to try one or...

I would think so but the note or notes I'm glad are absent are I think not terpenes. Perhaps the product should be called fractionated geranium, but Terpeneless is what it's called.

The SDS gives...

Which did you prefer and which not?

The three I see available retail in the US right now, if accompanying SDS's actually do match product, are the Givaudan, the Vigon Mixed Isomers, and the John D...

Gawrsh, I hope the 130 parts Geranium Terpeneless in something recent wasn't a disaster then! :)

(The Terpeneless is much "cleaner" though.)

Not at all controversial to leave out bergamot.

My idea of sensible Oak Moss is the John Steele at 80 parts per thousand, so I suppose no one should listen to me on Oak Moss.

Some geranyl...

Corrected to "brands." The meaning was, each company, rather than having product that is 100.0000% some given molecule, has one or more versions they sell, differing in impurities and sometimes in...

From what I am seeing it is a mixture which for which at least some products have some vetiverol but the amount is not guaranteed to be any more than 10%.

I had known it wasn't provided pure but...

I have the valencene and benzyl acetone (4-PHENYL, 2-BUTANONE) anyway!

Good for nearly 4%!

To be clear what I mean is such as CP and PA buying Sanderol from Vigon, knowing perfectly well that Sanderol is what they are buying because Vigon is utterly clear about that point, that's what it...

Thank you! Very nice!

Interesting to me that that Vetiver Haiti had no detected vetiverol. (Nor does the one at EODB, even though it goes down to 0.01%.)

Edit: Still further, this had me...

Possibly one or more of the terpene mixes might help you?

I have never ordered one but have ordered isolated materials from at least one of these companies, Abstrax, and was quite pleased.

It seems a lot of unnecessary work, and worse, some of it harmful to outcome.

As you use up your existing dilutions, why not transition to making all* your dilutions in alcohol at the 10% you are...

As a musician, what would you think about ordering a Fender Artist Series (let's say) but getting a Peavey instead, with a fake Fender logo stuck onto it?

"Oh, they're both Strat types, they...