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    Re: Basic blueberry accord

    I went ahead and threw together the basic three ingredients mentioned, Damascone Beta, Linalool, Allyl Caproate, Nonadienol, Hex-3-Cis, Butyrate and Benzaldehyde. Wound up with a really cool grape...
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    Re: Luna Rossa Carbon - The Coal Note

    Interesting choices. Cinnamon in general,diluted, had some minerality.

    My mineral accords lean more orris, Sandalwood, oakmoss, etc. But they're not perfect.
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    Luna Rossa Carbon - The Coal Note

    What do you think contributes to the coal note in Carbon?
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    Re: Cigarette smoke accord

    I've made a few tobacco and cigarette smoke accords.

    There is a technique floating about the forums where you literally use smoke in a tincture. I'm sure you could do the same with cigarette...
  5. Re: Do you smell Hedione, Polysantol faint or strong?

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  6. Re: Do you smell Hedione, Polysantol faint or strong?

    My sense for smelling hedione became better with time. At first, on your 1 - 100 scale, my sense for Hedione was about a 15 to 20. But now..

    Hedione 60
    Hedione HC 50

    To me, HC is sensed a bit...
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    A thought experiment about a fantasy accord!

    Hey everyone.
    I've been mulling this over for a while and experimenting with it, but I'd love to get the forum's input on the matter.

    What materials and accords would you use for the smell of...
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    Re: A tease, make sure you check PSH this weekend!

    Okay so... what material is it?
  9. Thread: Cashmeran Velvet

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    Re: Cashmeran Velvet

    Sounds like irt might be a happy accident.
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    Struggling with Ck Euphoria DNA.

    I like this and would like to create something similar to CK Euphoria for Men.

    What chems do you think make up the DNA of this fragrance? What chems are in it? A formula would be an awesome find...
  11. Thread: Cereal!

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    Re: Cereal!

    Lemongrass, if I'm not mistaken has a lot of citral.

    Bergamot stuff with neroli might be cool. Never thought about c6.
  12. Thread: Cereal!

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    Cereal!

    So I recently discovered Citrals similarity and incorporation in fruit loops and I have become fascinated by making cereal fragrances.

    My first experiment was citral and trimethyl pyrrazine. Ur...
  13. Re: My newfound love of aldehydes or; Overdosing things I shouldn't!

    I don't like C-6 pure, but I can see its use in composition.

    And yes, I kow of the lactone debacle. I own the chems but know they're not truly aldehydes.

    Heliotropin is an aldehyde?
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    Re: Using Linalool/Other Constituents

    I've never heard of linalool being used as a fixative before.
  15. My newfound love of aldehydes or; Overdosing things I shouldn't!

    I've recently gotten heavily into heavy use of aldehydes and I have to say that the results are nothing short of awesome. The way they combine with other aldehydes and other ACs and oils is sheer...
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    Re: Tips on tincturing neroli / Orange Flowers?

    Experiment 1.

    Tinctured orange flowers with enough perfumer's alcohol to cover them for 15 minutes, four times. End product very weak. Will move forward with more washes. Goal is ten total.
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    Re: Tips on tincturing neroli / Orange Flowers?

    Thanks again, PK!

    Tonight starts the experiments. I'm thankful for having the flowers pretty much in nearly endless supply during spring.

    Starting 15 minute tinctures. Going to see what...
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    Re: Tips on tincturing neroli / Orange Flowers?

    Thanks PK.

    I'm assuming that dehydrating flowers in some way would also lessen the scent somewhat. Such as a good dehydrator, oven or even hang drying them like herbs.

    I will be experimenting,...
  19. Re: Oh no... apparently I can't get Hedione HC. I mean the genuine stuff

    Yes, I meant the difference between regular Hedione and Hedione HC.

    I'm also concerned about a few other materials now as well. Nerolidol, for example. Almost no scent when, I've been told, it can...
  20. Re: Oh no... apparently I can't get Hedione HC. I mean the genuine stuff

    I have some from PA. I thought the difference was that subtle, to be honest.

    This makes me rather concerned because I've experienced a difference in several materials from what they are SUPPOSED...
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    Tips on tincturing neroli / Orange Flowers?

    Hello!
    So, neroli oil is expensive and I have all of these orange trees around my house that are smelling great and I was thinking about tincturing them in perfumer's alcohol.

    I know that fresh...
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    Norlimbanol, Okoumal and Cedramber

    Hiya!
    I have been working with norlimbanol for some time and have come to enjoy it. I recently received two new chems that I've never smelled before, Okoumal and Cedramber. Is it just me, or are...
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    A question of solubility.

    I have a material that claims "is soluble in water, but not ethanol".

    I plan to experiment on my own, but would DPG or TEC assist in its solubility into ethanol?
  24. Re: Overdosed the galbanum in my blend. Ugh! How to neutralize it?!

    my vote.
  25. Thread: Vanillins

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    Re: Vanillins

    Personally, I think V and EV have subtle but distinct difference and, used together in certain compositions, have a remarkable way of volumizing and expanding the vanilla note.

    Not to hijack the...
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    Re: Still seeking a stone accord.

    There is a smell to stone. Not sure why someone would say there isnt one. I pick up a large slab of marble or granite and there is this powdery, sharp smell. Its subtle but it's there.
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    Still seeking a stone accord.

    Hi everyone!
    I've been scouring the net for months.

    I've been working and experimenting for months.

    No avail.

    The web only has suggestions such as civet, geosmin, methyl quinoline. But...
  28. Thread: Beverage Accords

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    Re: Beverage Accords

    Thanks Paul!

    Been looking. I'm genuinely interested in Coca-Cola and Cream Soda, tbh.

    I have a hard time with the Coca-Cola one, though. It always winds up too fruity with what I try.
  29. Thread: Beverage Accords

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    Beverage Accords

    Hiya!

    Can anyone point me in the direction of beverage-style accords or, perhaps, suggest a few ACs that would contribute?

    Coca-Cola
    Cream Soda
    Root Beer
    Lemonade
    Watermelon Crush
  30. Thread: Smell of Blood

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    Re: Smell of Blood

    Its damned hard to get. And expensive when you do.

    I spent a great deal of time in "bodily fluid accords". Blood was my first and skin far only real success.
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    Re: Can you help me find Heliotropex N (IFF)?

    I see. I didn't know this or I wouldn't have asked. Apologies for that!

    I don't plan to, anyway. Not if I lose the material if I mess it up - which I likely would.

    The march continues for...
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    Re: Can you help me find Heliotropex N (IFF)?

    I really appreciate the response! I suspected that any attempt would risk losing the material altogether. It was kind of a last ditch thought if I couldn't find any appropriate materials.
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    Re: Can you help me find Heliotropex N (IFF)?

    Thank you for all the links! I'll be checking them out today. Hopefully I can find one that works.

    Is there a published process for removing Heliontropin for BB?
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    Can you help me find Heliotropex N (IFF)?

    I hate to ask, but I've exhausted every other source I know of.

    I'm looking for Heliotropex N. I've tried Anisyl Alcohol and Heliotropin Replacer. Anisyl Alcohol doesn't hit the same blending...
  35. Thread: Bubblegum?

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    Re: Bubblegum?

    The civet did add warmth and really works with the bubblegum fragrance. Its just a bit too sharp for a "normal" American, pink bubblegum (Bubblicious, Dubble Bubble, Big League Chew, etc), imo. It...
  36. Thread: Bubblegum?

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    Bubblegum?

    I recently accidentally created a bubblegum accord. It smells like pink bubble gum. I'm trying to dismantle it but cant seem to get the gum scent apart from the civet (yes, I created a civet...
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    Re: Help me identify this "body odor" scent aspect!

    It is basil ct. Linalool
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    Help me identify this "body odor" scent aspect!

    Hello everyone!

    I was experimenting with ratios and how certain ACs interact and I wound up with something that, at first, smells 'okay', but after a minutes or three, it smells like someone that...
  39. College Majors and Coursework- Perfumery Edition!

    Hiya yall!
    So, not everyone can go to those amazing perfumery schools, but universities seem a logical step in learning perfumery (to me).

    Perfume Schools aside, what majors would you say teach...
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    Re: Known Vintage Formulas

    Well, it's not $300.. haha

    Thanks, PK.
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    Re: Known Vintage Formulas

    Christmas is right around the corner! Any suggestions? Preferably ones less than $300?
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    Known Vintage Formulas

    Are there any lists or reference spots for vintage perfume formulas?

    For example: Vintage Amber is Labdanum and Vanilla.
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    Re: Alcohol alternatives?

    Thank you for your response, PK.

    I keep forgetting that Jojoba is a wax. I don't know why. I am currently running a few trials (as of today) to test solubility and ingredients to aid such. Right...
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    Alcohol alternatives?

    Howdy!

    So I've been seeking alternatives to alcohol based perfumes. I did some research and found that jojoba seems to be a great alternative to alcohol as a carrier. The thing is, when I use it...
  45. Thread: Chocovan.

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    Re: Chocovan.

    Isobutyl Phenyl Acetate has not been an easy find for me.
  46. Thread: Chocovan.

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    Re: Chocovan.

    Manfred: Thanks! What do you use for a dark chocolate note?

    BK: Appreciate the insight!

    Working on a hot cocoa accord and roasted cacao is just not cutting it.
  47. Thread: Chocovan.

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    Chocovan.

    I've been looking for a chocolate and have settled in on Chocovan.

    Has anyone worked with it?

    Is it a strong Chocolate?

    It's a bit pricey, is it worth it?
  48. Thread: Ben Hur formula

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    Ben Hur formula

    I have a friend trying to find Ben Hur, so I thought I'd try my hand at making it. Only, I cant seem to find anything on it. Does anyone have a bead on a Ben Hur formula?
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    Vintage accords, ACs and formula.

    Hey again folks!
    I am interested in what may be considered vintage fragrances! I was wondering if anyone knows offhand any resources for vintage chems or accords?

    I found that vintage Amber is...
  50. Thread: sex acoord

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    Re: sex acoord

    I'm working on something similar. If two heads are better than one, message me. :)

    I'm working with a lot (a LOT) of musk blends, and spices. Tweaking it has become a bit of nuance and a whole lot...
  51. Re: What are some tips, tricks and hacks that you know?

    Lots of great organizational stuff on this thread! I personally use the nail polish racks for my ACs. They're amazing and present labels quite well.
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    Re: Of "stickiness" and perfume

    I dont mind the smell.

    I'm just trying to figure out how the notes stayed on my skin even after a shower.

    What additives helped with it.

    I suspect humectant and fixitives like glucam p or...
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    Re: Of "stickiness" and perfume

    Pk: Soap bridges the gap between water and fat. With a loofah and soap, it should have scrubbed away.

    Its morning now and I can still smell the norlimbanol
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    It's crazy.
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    Of "stickiness" and perfume

    Tenacity and spillage. Yeah, I know.

    But theres a thing I've noticed in some perfumes. I applied one before a shower because I wanted to test it on skin without having to wear it all day. I...
  55. Re: Is my office pretty much just going to smell like lawn clippings forever?

    Luckily that stuff is a top note, so with proper ventilation, it'll probably go away.. sometime. In the meantime, as the saying goes..

    "If you can't smell the one you love, love the smell that got...
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    Re: Sweet potato / Yam accord

    Thanks, but I've had terrible luck with fragrance oils. I don't use them, anymore.
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    Sweet potato / Yam accord

    Is there a sweet potato or yam accord hiding out there somewhere?
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    Re: Accord assistance, please!

    RSG: When you say orange for the creamsicle, do you mean Orange EO?
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    Re: Accord assistance, please!

    I've searched through TGSC.

    Flavor accords?

    Edit: I had no idea TGSC did flavor accords but I found them and whoa thank you.
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    Re: Accord assistance, please!

    Thanks, DSIL!
    Verdox was already in my cart and I'm super excited to try that one out. I've been using trace AMG, but the metal always gets things a bit confused for me.
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    Accord assistance, please!

    I've a few accords that I'm tinkering with. I've strolled through the forums and used the search function too! Any advice would be IMMENSELY helpful.

    Green Apple Accord
    Ive been told that Hex-3,...
  62. Aldehydes molecular interaction in non-alcoholic carriers; or What does jojoba oil do to molecules?

    I've been doing a lot of research on how chemicals in a composition interact, as well as brushing up on my old chemistry knowledge and getting to know Schiff Bases and their known pairings. But I was...
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    Trying to keep my finger on the pulse.

    Hey again, folks!

    I was wondering. Many of you seem to have a keen grasp of the world of perfumery. I've been watching YouTube videos, subscribed to Givaudans YouTube and troll the forums as much...
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    Re: Fragrance Oils and Aroma chemicals

    I've had nothing but "bad luck" with fragrance oils and have completely abandoned them even though the idea of being able to access some of what they offer more easily was very appealing.

    For...
  65. What are some tips, tricks and hacks that you know?

    I've noticed that some info that many perfumers are aware of and know are a bit hard to find for new perfumers and even some experienced folks.

    So I'd like to start a thread to help folks out!
    ...
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    Re: Cis-3-Hexenol shortage and alternatives

    If you're in the United States, I may be able to help. I (slightly) stocked up before the shortage began. :)
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    Re: Formulate this Fragrance

    Nice. How do the "lighter musks" blend with the civet?
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    Re: Formulate this Fragrance

    What would you consider a "dark animal musk"?
  69. Thread: Cloudy blends.

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    Re: Cloudy blends.

    Yeah, I just did an experiment with just my galaxolide and alcohol and it's not cloudy.

    Okay, I can filter it but its bugging me as to WHY its happening.

    They go clear after a few days too....
  70. Thread: Cloudy blends.

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    Cloudy blends.

    Trust me, I've searched for this. I dont use water - perfumers alcohol only.

    I think I narrowed the culprit to Galaxolide - I only have a few blends going cloudy and the main ingredient common to...
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    Re: Cost effective jasmine sambac?

    Update: Jasmine specialty and Sampaquita 138 are great! Not exactly Sambac but close enough to work very well.
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    Cost effective jasmine sambac?

    Hey folks.
    I've been spending a chunk of cash on real sambac. Now, I know that nothing will actually hit the nail on the head for imitating sambac jasmine, but is there anything more cost effective...
  73. Re: Coaxing the individual notes out of benzaldehyde

    I must be misunderstanding.

    Bitter Almond seems to be a carrier oil.
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    Re: Always been curious: formula for Dragon's Blood?

    The first thing I'd do is smell the real stuff. Get it and burn it. The smell is deep, dark and kind of amazing.

    There is a tutorial out there for tincturing smoke. I plan to do this with the...
  75. Re: Coaxing the individual notes out of benzaldehyde

    Im going for Almond as in the nut/seed.
  76. Coaxing the individual notes out of benzaldehyde

    Hey yall!

    I'm expanding into gourmands a bit so I picked up benzaldehyde. The first thing I noticed is how absolutely POWERFUL it is. The second thing is how utterly cherry it smells to me.
    ...
  77. Re: What's the most animalic, furry musk that you know of?

    You are all amazing. Thank you so much for all of the great feedback.

    I took ALL of your suggestions and researched them until the wee hours of the morning and placed my order at the end of that...
  78. Re: What's the most animalic, furry musk that you know of?

    I'll admit, the guaiacs - I haven't mastered their use yet. Everything I do with them comes out not great.

    But it may be worth it for this project. :)
  79. Re: What's the most animalic, furry musk that you know of?

    No worries! A wolfy, predatory Fragrance might be just what the doctor ordered to inspire! So thank you!

    I'm going to go with Shangrilide and Animalis - but I'd still love to hear from y'all.
    ...
  80. Re: What's the most animalic, furry musk that you know of?

    I'm looking for a molecule, synthetic or essential - not so much a cologne in a bottle. Thanks though, I'll have to check this one out. :)
  81. What's the most animalic, furry musk that you know of?

    Hello everyone!
    I'm working on a werewolf scent. I'm working with some great musks for obvious reasons but I'm wondering:

    What is the most animalic, animalistic, real-furry-predator,...
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    Re: NOrlimbanol and para-cresyl acetate.

    May I ask how YOU work with it, since it's a favorite of yours?

    I was considering starting with a 1% (1 drop in 100) to 0.5% (1 drop in 200) solution and working with it from there.

    The scent...
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    Re: Sandalwood advice, please.

    I went for Sandalore as a singular, and plan to go back for Bacdanol and Brahmanol as well as Javanol later on. Thanks for the help, y'all!
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    NOrlimbanol and para-cresyl acetate.

    Hey folks.
    I've been going through my library and doing a ton of research but of all the chemicals I have, I cannot seem to find a good use for these. NOrlimbanol just smells awful to me, but I've...
  85. Re: Is it okay to put real actual liquor into a perfume?

    Yes.

    I've experimented with this quite a bit and found that if you're using small enough concentrations of the booze, you'll be just fine and it'll add your note just fine. You'll have to...
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    Ethyl Maltol, Sotolone and Sweets oh my!

    Hey again, everyone! Your friendly neighborhood Rook here. This time, I come with yet another very specific inquiry!

    Sugar notes.

    Doing a bit of ingredient shopping and I came across a few...
  87. trans-4,5-Epoxy-(E)-2-decenal or Blood Fragrance alternatives

    Hello everyone. It is known that trans-4,5-Epoxy-(E)-2-decenal is what gives mammalian blood its characteristic metallic scent. Attempting to source it, the cheapest I could find was quite pricey at...
  88. Working with Crystals, powder and crystalized oils.

    I made my first large order the other day and I have some questions on how best to work with specific solidified materials.

    I have a bottle of galaxolide and ambroxan that has formed some rather...
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    Weak Hedione, strange rose oxide?

    Howdy.

    I just picked up an order from PA and in it was Hedione (Firmenich). After being told that it's a very important molecule to have, and reading all these wonderful effects and scent it has,...
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    Sandalwood advice, please.

    I know it's a dead horse and Im not trying to beat it here, but I have four sandalwood chems in my cart and I'm trying to thin it down. Those molecules are:

    Javanol
    Bacdanol
    Sandalore...
  91. Thread: Skin and sweat

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    Skin and sweat

    What molecule or scent would be closest to human skin and sweat in scent?
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    Re: Frustrated with som of my new ACs

    One thing that I learned in perfumery is that many, if not all, chemicals smell differently pure than they do when they are dilluted. My suggestion is to try that. You may be pleasantly surprised.
  93. Thread: Cemetary Scent

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    Re: Cemetary Scent

    I'm picking up final ingredients today. The notes that I'll be working with, at various ratios, are:

    Oakmoss, Treemoss, Dirt, Lily of the Valley, Rose, Violent, Currant, Patchouli, Cedar, Vetiver...
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    Re: Versace Pour Homme

    What is a GC analysis?

    I didnt know that there was more than one. I know itsin a clear bottle with a metallic emblem on it. The liquid is a pale blue clear.
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    Versace Pour Homme

    Does anyone know where I can find a formula for bgg whats in Versace Pour Homme? I'm not trying to recreate it as a clone. I just like the smell a lot and would like to know which molecules are...
  96. Thread: Cemetary Scent

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    Re: Cemetary Scent

    I'm loving these suggestions! Thank you all so much for your input so far! Lots of great ideas.

    For ash, sage she and birch tar was voted so I'm looking those up as well.

    I love the idea of...
  97. Thread: Cemetary Scent

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    Re: Cemetary Scent

    Interesting choice. What makes you say that?
  98. Thread: Cemetary Scent

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    Re: Cemetary Scent

    Would humulene work instead of humus either or trail? I ask because perfumers apprentice doesnt seem to have those.
  99. Thread: Cemetary Scent

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    Cemetary Scent

    I've noticed a few scents that are supposed to be reminiscent of a Cemetary - with stone and fresh dirt seemingly being key scents involved. I'd like to try to recreate something like this but have...
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    Is this a good start for molecules?

    Hello everyone! I'm wanting to experiment with my first batch of perfumes and colognes after extensive research over the past month. I don't have a lot of cash to spend (around 30 to 40 bucks) so I'm...
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