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    Re: Firmenich Z11 MIP

    Interesting to hear that, because for me, this material (MIP version) really doesn't smell that powerfull. I'm surprised that the power/impact of Z11 is compared with Ambrocenide or Norlimbanol. For...
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    Re: Perceptability And Power of My Formula

    This is quite outrageous, mturker. Mike is absolutely right with his comment.

    I've been following BN as a reader for nearly 20 years. In the past few years I have already noticed some behavioral...
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    Re: Perceptability And Power of My Formula

    I'm not sure if it's a good idea for me to reply at all, because I'm by no means an expert if it comes to blening. I only know most of the listed materials from own experience.

    I think, that the...
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    Re: Materials That You Hate

    Ambrocenide - regardless how heavily it's diluted: I can't get this horrible washing powder association out of my head
    Ultrazur - dishwashing liquid
    Lilial - I don't know if I'm the only one who's...
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    Re: CAS of Rhododendron anthopogon EO

    I'm by no means an expert for CAS, but I doubt that every natural EO or absolute is included. On the other side there are different CAS numbers for one and the same natural material.

    Looking for...
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    Re: A new package arrived :-)

    Polysom, speaking of your bad experience with a seller of EOs: was it also a German based company?

    A final word to essence: although I really appreciate their oils, I think it's important for...
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    Re: A new package arrived :-)

    I'm not sure if Fujian Cypress Oil would be the most used name. Arctander also refers to Siam Wood Oil for Fokienia hodginsii. It's sometimes a difference between names of essential oils and...
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    Re: Oakmoss-based fragrance

    To my nose Allyl Hexanoate/Caproate and A. Heptanoate are quite different although both are intensely fruity, the Hexanoate is an almost overripe sweet pineapple, whereas the heptanoate goes more in...
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    Re: Farnesol - Can't smell it!

    Farnesol is quite a heavy molecule. With 222.37 g/mol it's almost as big as some musk molecules.

    Try the following:

    1.) Do the evaluation outside in fresh air. In my experience, Farnesol...
  10. Re: Big Free PDF with lots of EO information

    It's the 1st (translated) edition of the "Gildemeister" - essential oils, 1899.

    For those with knowledge of the German language, you can find the original 1st edition AND - more important - the...
  11. Re: Another company's website with EO GC/MS's

    I'm not sure if the following company has already been mentioned:

    Stillpointaromatics.com
  12. Re: What "Absolute" means today -- it depends on who is saying, and may mean different than you gues

    Thank you for your effort, Bill! I totally agree. It is regrettable and annoying that originally clear terms are so maliciously changed. At this point I also make it very clear: Anyone who does not...
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    Re: What is a 'bourbon'?

    I think, that nowadays the term "Bourbon" is often misleading, because there are lots of natural essential oils offered (even by reputable sellers), that are not of Bourbon-origin (= Isle de...
  14. Re: Should my Orris butter (Iris Pallida), 15% Irone, have a dominant bitter green note ?

    Well, in this case I'd go so far to say that your orris butter definetely isn't a top quality one. (Btw, my Italian orris butter was roughly 3 times the PSH price.)
  15. Re: Should my Orris butter (Iris Pallida), 15% Irone, have a dominant bitter green note ?

    May I ask if you know the scent of pure alpha-Irone?
  16. Re: Should my Orris butter (Iris Pallida), 15% Irone, have a dominant bitter green note ?

    Regarding (possible) different perception of orris butter, I'd recommend a second reference - in this case: pure alpha-irone. I'd be surprised if someone would associate a-irone's scent with green or...
  17. Re: Should my Orris butter (Iris Pallida), 15% Irone, have a dominant bitter green note ?

    That is indeed a very interesting topic, Bill. A few days ago, I posted a thread "Different perception of scents after airing the room". I'm curious about your thoughts!
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    Re: Lemongrass Question

    (Just for fun)

    Glad that you didn't mention Citronella. - Citronella is even more confusing than lemongrass:

    Cymbopogon nardus = Citronella, so-called Ceylon-Type
    C. winterianus = Citronella,...
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    Re: Lemongrass Question

    Bill, I understand your anger very well! - I'm not only interested in essential oils but also in botany for decades. And I noticed very early, that many companies and sellers weren't really aware of...
  20. Re: Cedar of Lebanon / Lebanese Cedar / Cedrus Libani Essential Oil Source?

    If it has to be a genuine cedar, I'd recommend Himalayan (Cedrus deodara). It's smoother, sweeter and a bit less phenolic than Atlas oils.

    Lavender: please look for some Seville lavender oil...
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    Re: Lemongrass Question

    I'd also suggest looking for lemongrass oil made of Cymbopogon citratus. The C. citratus oils are generally richer in Citral than C. flexuosus oils. Unfortunately, there's still some confusion...
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    Re: Iris Butter - dilution

    I agree. Orris butter generally contains a lot of myristic acid that is unsoluble in alcohol.
  23. Re: Are there concerns about overdosing on Cascalone?

    Thanks too, Paul!:smiley:
  24. Re: Are there concerns about overdosing on Cascalone?

    Basically, it's a crazy idea. On the other hand, I really like the smell of Cascalone (more than Calone). I wouldn't want to try that with Calone.:laugh:

    Well, it's just a little try, nothing...
  25. Re: Are there concerns about overdosing on Cascalone?

    That's fine. Thank you Sam! (Keep up the good work of your excellent YT channel!:thumbsup:)
  26. Thread: Jules

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    Re: Jules

    That's absolutely fine. I'm just saying that I don't particularly like the current version. Since I currently have neither the old nor the new fragrance on hand, I can only speak from memory. As far...
  27. Thread: Jules

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    Re: Jules

    Oh yes: Jules! - I loved the old original very much during the 90s. The new version is less so.

    Regarding the old bottles: I don't think there are different versions. The only difference is that...
  28. Are there concerns about overdosing on Cascalone?

    I'd like to make Cascalone - analogous to the Molecule fragrances - the basis of a fragrance. According to TGSC and Firmenich, there are no IFRA restrictions on Cascalone (or Calone). However, the...
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    Re: Adding dew/watery effect to peony note

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  30. Re: Should my Orris butter (Iris Pallida), 15% Irone, have a dominant bitter green note ?

    In my opinion, a good quality orris butter should show up the characteristic smell of Irones, which is to my nose violet, powdery, waxy, silky, a bit fruity, floral, woody combined with a subtle cool...
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    Re: Neroli VS Neroli Bigarade

    I think, ourmess is right, Neroli bigarade is redundant. But there's also other Neroli on the market (although in very, very small quantities) e.g. Neroli from Grapefruit flowers (Citrus x...
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    Re: Strong and Natural Lasting Pine Scent

    I think, that a long-lasting and natural pine fragrance (or other conifer-'soliflores') is like its counterparts lavender and lemon something unobtainable. Conifer essential oils like pine, fir or...
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    Re: Adding dew/watery effect to peony note

    I'm interested rather in the scent of single materials than blending (although sometimes I do). Nevertheless I dare to suggest the following materials:

    Cyclamen aldehyde
    Delphol HC
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    Re: Formula help/advice

    Sorry for that misunderstanding! I didn't mean the amount in the concentrate. 0.01% - 0.1% is the dilution of the material I'd use for blending.
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    Re: Formula help/advice

    Franky spoken, the first association I always get when smelling this very diffusive material is a superclean, but also piercing and harsh laundry detergent powder feeling. I know, that generally...
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    Re: Advice on all the "ambergris" synths

    You're right, BK: Orcanox is another name for Ambrofix/Ambrox Super etc.

    Regarding expanding/modifying the clean aspect of ambergris (represented by Ambroxan and alike), I'd suggest Ambrinol 95....
  37. Different perception of scents after airing the room (lavender and farnesol)

    Perhaps others have already made the same observation: after airing a room, the scent or, better said, the scent perception of some substances that had previously filled the room changes. I noticed...
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    Re: Narcissus / Daffodil / Jonquil

    There are two different absolutes made of Narcissus species. They are similar in appearance and scent, although with some differences. In contrast to other flower absolutes, the plant material to be...
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    Re: Fuzzy Leaf accords

    Trans-2-Hexenal (Leaf Aldehyde) gives me quite a convincing natural impression of green leaves. A strong and volatile material, best used in high dilutions (0.1%).
  40. Tiaré (Gardenia tahitensis) & Moonflower (Ipomoea alba) - two green salicylate-driven white flowers

    Tiaré (Gardenia tahitensis) abs. is scarce. Firmenich produced two absolutes (one decolorized) a few years ago. Sadly, it’s currently out of production there. Nevertheless, there’s some of it still...
  41. Thread: Boronia

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    Boronia

    Boronia (Boronia megastigma) abs. is quite an expensive material these days. Price has increased remarkably during the last years (like other exotic flower absolutes). The shrub is native to...
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    Re: Lemon Myrtle, not quite like Lemon

    Lemon Myrtle (Backhousia citriodora) eo is often described as "more lemony than lemon", because of the high content of citral. With up to more than 98% of citral, this oil is almost pure natural...
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    Re: Melon / Melonal

    Melonal is a good example of divergating information regarding longevity/persistancy. Melonal is widely classified as a quite long-lasting material, I think because of TGSC entry (144 hours). My own...
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    Re: Karo Karounde

    To me, Karo Karounde abs. (Leptactina senegambia smells waxy, sweet, subtle spicy, white-floral, peach/berry-fruity, tea-like. The overall impression is an orange flower-like profile with less...
  45. Re: Periploca (aka: milk broom, silk vine) Anyone familiar?

    The root oil of Periploca sepium has to my nose (like the Firmenich description) a strong gourmand direction. I'd describe it as a quite weak vanilla-dominated scent with some green, juicy-sweet and...
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    Re: Hyacinthus orientalis

    To my knowledge and experience (and I'm interested in this topic for more than 35 years), real natural absolute of Hyacinthus orientalis is no longer available on a regular base. I reckon, that...
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    Re: Hemlock (Tsuga oil)

    The scent of distilled essential oil from Tsuga canadensis (Eastern Hemlock-Spruce, Canadian Hemlock) is one of the most harmonious conifer scents ever. After my experience, this oil combines the...
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    Re: Cyclamen.

    Interesting to read about varying impressions. I'd like to add some personal thoughts/impressions about cyclamen.

    Cyclamen - and I'm only talking about Cyclamen persicum[I] - are partially...
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    Re: White Lotus Aromatics Closing

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    Re: Cascalone

    To me, Cascalone has a pronounced new floral aspect, which I'd describe with cyclamen, to be more precise, a mixture of cyclamen aldehyde and floralozone. Compared to Calone, the melon aspect is a...
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    Re: White Lotus Aromatics Closing

    I think in this case it's best to avoid trivial names (like Night Queen or Night flowering jasmine), because they are so unspecific and inadequate. You can easily find dozens of different plants...
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