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    Default Rive Gauche vs. Sartorial

    Hey guys. I recently became interested in Penhaligon's Sartorial after reading about it and seeing some stuff on YouTube, and I have a few questions I want to ask before I pull the trigger and purchase it online.

    I've heard it's similar to Rive Gauche, and I wanted to know in what ways is it similar? In what ways are they different? I own Rive Gauche, and it's a delightful scent. I don't think it's as great as some people make it out to be though. It's a very nice & fairly modern take on a fougere, but it really doesn't do anything groundbreaking. I want to know if Sartorial breaks the mold for this type of fragrance or keeps it safe like RGPH.

    Also, which one do you like better? These are two highly respected fragrances in the same category, so it should be interesting to see what you guys think.

    And one last question. I'm trying to keep my collection to a minimum, and I wanted to know.. is Sartorial good enough to own in addition to Rive Gauche? Is there enough difference between the two to justify owning both in a very small collection (close to a dozen)?

    I'm anxious to see your responses. I've been interested in Sartorial for a while now.

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    Default Re: Rive Gauche vs. Sartorial

    I didn't like either, but if I had to choose, I would go with Sartorial. Rive Gauche is certainly a barbershop style fragrance with anise and a sweet, rosemary edge, but it's quality is slightly above department store. Sartorial is supposed to evoke tailors working on Seville Row at the end of the Victorian Era, but falls short. The idea is just a 1970s aromatic fougere dressed up with some beeswax, aldehydes, and ominous "effects."

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    Default Re: Rive Gauche vs. Sartorial

    Quote Originally Posted by That Guy View Post

    Also, which one do you like better? These are two highly respected fragrances in the same category, so it should be interesting to see what you guys think.
    Rive Gauche by far.
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    Sartorial does try to do something slightly different. It has some interesting hard to define synthetic notes (sort of steamy, sort of dry pressed clothes), which as bokaba was saying are advertised as evoking taylors rooms (not that I would know how they smell). So it feels somewhat more niche and avantgarde, but it is really not groundbreaking, it still has the structure of an aromatic fougere. RG, as you say, it's more traditional and aromatic, a fougere on the cleaner, soapier end of the spectrum.

    Between the two, I prefer RG. But, to be honest, while I like them, I am no huge fan of either, just because I feel more attracted to other styles of perfumes. So I'd say that there is space for both, if you like fougeres, but, as with all expensive stuff, you don't want to buy blindly.

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    Both are fougeres.

    Fougere compositions include notes of lavender, geranium, moss and wood. This group primarily includes perfumes for men.

    I like both very much. (Sartorial is now my next purchase) I tend to like aromatic fougeres.
    Rive Gauche seems to emphasize patchouli more and Sartorial more floral and vanilla.
    Sartorial somewhat resembles the very highly rated (and expensive) Invasion Barbare.

    They are like different versions of the same song.

    Definitely get a sample before purchasing.
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    Sartorial is a modern and artistic take on the classic Mens fragrance. I absolutely love it. Its also got extraordinary performance. High quality juice.

    I was never really a fan of Rive Gauche.
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    You're never gonna get 'groundbreaking' from a traditional fougeré. They're both pretty good, I'd go with sartorial as the better smelling of the two
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    Rive Gauche, trust me I'm a doctor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aphexacid View Post
    Sartorial is a modern and artistic take on the classic Mens fragrance. I absolutely love it. Its also got extraordinary performance. High quality juice.

    I was never really a fan of Rive Gauche.
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    Default Re: Rive Gauche vs. Sartorial

    Sartorial smells much better to my nose. A more modern, and brighter take on the fougere. Where RG focuses on dark notes like patchouli and anise, Sartorial is more lavender and fresh herbs which are bolstered by an ozonic effect. Patchouli is there as well, but not as obvious as in RG.

    A lot of people see Sartorial as being similar to Brut, and I can see that. A very refined Brut.
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    Both are fantastic and they are not redundant to own. Sartorial has a slightly metallic edge to it, and I think it is slightly more daring than Rive gauche. For everyday wear I prefer Rive gauche (it just feels "right" on the skin), which is more aromatic and traditional, but Sartorial will make you stand out more, I think

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    Seconding Rive Gauche.

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    Default Re: Rive Gauche vs. Sartorial

    I wear and like them both a lot. But they are variations on the same theme. And neither is ground breaking in any sense. Sartorial is very reasonably priced, so if you like the genre, go for it.

    A little more 'out there' take on the fougere genre, which is also reasonably priced, is Parfum d'Empire Fougere Bengale. Might be worth a shot.
    Or Dior Jules.
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    I personally prefer RG to Sartorial, it smells better to my nose. Like gtsb said, Sartorial has this metallic edge to it, and I don't enjoy that. Also I must say that in my experience, RG outperforms Sartorial in terms longevity and sillage if that matters to you.

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    Rive Gauche by far.
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    Thanks for the responses so far guys.

    To me, Rive Gauche smells like it was made for a gentleman, but it doesn't smell like it was necessarily made for older men. I can pull it off without feeling uncomfortable (I'm 26). Is Sartorial the same way, or does it seem more mature or possibly more youthful?

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    I own both and am wearing sartorial today. On my second bottle. I really like both fragrances but for me sartorial edges out rive gauche by a hair. I just enjoy the overall vibe of sartorial. It has that dusty dry smell with a beeswax running through it. A bit more interesting than RG. I would definitely reference classic Brut cologne if considering sartorial. If you do not like Brut you probably won't care for sartorial being they share a similar vibe... Sartorial lasts 8+ hours on me as well. Kind of a mature scent which I find most fougeres to be.

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    I am sad rive gauche will become rare as m7. Prices are going up. I will try sartorial, as i love RG too.
    ** New reformulated azzaro pour homme has more in common with RG than previous one, but lacks longevity. I liked it.
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    Rive Gauche is far superior. Sartorial doesn't project, is very close to the skin, and smells hollow and cheap.

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    Default Re: Rive Gauche vs. Sartorial

    For a blind buy would you suggest Sartorial, Opus 1870 or Bel Ami (current formulation)?
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    I really enjoy both, but they're very different. They're both "barbershop" inspired fougeres. Sartorial is extremely green while Rive Gauche smells more like a luxurious take on Barbasol that's infused with a dash of oakmoss and a dollop of anise that is present throughout the fragrances development.

    Though I wear both fairly often, I think Rive Gauche is a bit more versatile and more unique. I say this because Sartorial wears like Brut in a tux... Nice, but not for everyone.
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    I own and enjoy both but rarely wear either since getting Masculine Pluriel.
    I like it a lot more....actually one of my favorites.

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    Sartorial is excellent. Own it. Love it.
    I own a 5ml sample of Rive Gauche and highly doubt I'll use it all.

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    Rive Gauche has the better performance and drydown. Sartorial is a show pony for the first 30 minutes, then becomes a non-descript musky/woody/powdery scent.
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    Default Re: Rive Gauche vs. Sartorial

    Sartorial.

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    Sartorial

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    2 of my all time favorites. So hard to choose. Both have 2 things in common. Firstly they smell delightful. Secondly they are unmistakably male fragrances.
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    Default Re: Rive Gauche vs. Sartorial

    An old thread, but the answer remains the same for me.

    Rive Gauche is a modern classic that still lives on. Sartorial tries to be trendy, perhaps more modern than RG, but it fails miserably. What were they thinking with that metalic note in the middle? That ruins it for me and quite miserably.

    Rive Gauche smells authentic and elegant with the anise note blended around a fougere accord. The barbershop vibe from this one is very much the benchmark for this genre and remains one of the true men's colognes that every newbie or scent enthusiast should try.

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    They're both great. Some people don't get Sartorial, but that's their problem and all the better for those that do.
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    Default Re: Rive Gauche vs. Sartorial

    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyG View Post
    They're both great. Some people don't get Sartorial, but that's their problem and all the better for those that do.
    I agree. A Woman at work recently said to me "I don't know what you are wearing but that's what I like a Man to smell like". I was wearing Sartorial. I am pretty new to the juice which is annoying because I love it so much and it is reasonably priced. I could have save myself a ton of money if I would have found it earlier. I will never be without a bottle!!
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