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    Default Montale Black Aoud (2014 Aoud Collection by Montale International Design)

    Montale Black Aoud (2014 Aoud Collection by Montale International Design) vs. Montale Paris Black Aoud. I was told they are different. Does anyone have information? Neal

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    Default Re: Montale Black Aoud (2014 Aoud Collection by Montale International Design)

    Hmmm, just found this...

    "Ok people, FYI. Pierre Montale does not exist.
    Montale is split into 2 warring divisions. Montale Paris and Montale International Design. Montale Paris, is owned by a Lebanese Maronite businessman name Pierre Durrani. Montale International Design is owned by Ammar Atmeh, a Palestinian businessman. Atmeh started Montale but Pierre took control of the International division.
    They got into a legal battle over ownership in 2012, and their Vendome store abruptly closed. The fragrances are developed in the UAE and mass produced from France."

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    Default Re: Montale Black Aoud (2014 Aoud Collection by Montale International Design)

    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/386...clarification?

    Did you get that from an eBay listing by Abujouda or w/e? I'm not sure, but that seller may only sell the UAE type Montale (Atmeh).
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    Default Re: Montale Black Aoud (2014 Aoud Collection by Montale International Design)

    Yes, saw it on the eBay listing.

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    Default Re: Montale Black Aoud (2014 Aoud Collection by Montale International Design)

    Quote Originally Posted by ILikePeeps View Post

    I'm not sure, but that seller may only sell the UAE type Montale (Atmeh).
    That's my understanding also.
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    Default Re: Montale Black Aoud (2014 Aoud Collection by Montale International Design)

    Quote Originally Posted by neal View Post
    Yes, saw it on the eBay listing.
    I recently noticed lower prices on stuff from that seller, not sure why. I received 2x Aoud & Pine. Took a while to arrive, but there may be a faster shipping option(?) or whatever.

    I did an order via eBay on Oct 29th (prior to the recent price lowering), and package arrived maybe November 19th.

    I never actually got a tracking number to where I could actually SEE tracking stuff going on; there was a number (reference number?) there, but I wasn't able to 'track' with it.

    Package just ended up arriving one day.

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    Can anyone say if the Dark Aoud from this "Montale Internation" is strong like it was when it first released? Because i only have 1 bottle and its at 90% or so. I tried buying a back up, but it was watered down and i practically gave it away.
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    They dont make a Dark Aoud. Yes, the new Dark Aoud is a shadow of the original.

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    Hi guys i bought a few days ago a Montale Black Oud that looks like in the pictures.
    It is legit ?
    Pn the back of the box says :
    www.montale-intl-design.com

    Smells good but the stayng power is not so great.

    Fake or not ?
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    Default Re: Montale Black Aoud (2014 Aoud Collection by Montale International Design)

    Quote Originally Posted by Luchian View Post
    Hi guys i bought a few days ago a Montale Black Oud that looks like in the pictures.
    It is legit ?
    Pn the back of the box says :
    www.montale-intl-design.com

    Smells good but the staying power is not so great.

    Fake or not ?
    This appears to be an Atmeh (Middle East) Black Aoud. The box and bottle don't show the size under the name of the fragrance. The font on the bottle is also larger - where it says MONTALE - than that of the rival company http://montaleparfums.com/fr/. These signs are often characteristic of current Atmeh Montales. Although I have never tried this Black Aoud version (mine is the very original one) I'm sure you're fine.
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    Montales in general are watered down, but the Montale Paris Black Aoud have much better longevity than the Atmeh ones. Also the Abu Jouda says they Atmah Black Aouds smell different.

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    Thank you guys, the rose, oud combo is very dominant and doesen't smell cheap or alcohoolic.
    Next month i will go to Paris and i\ll compare the smell with the other one.

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    Default Re: Montale Black Aoud (2014 Aoud Collection by Montale International Design)

    Quote Originally Posted by Luchian View Post
    Thank you guys, the rose, oud combo is very dominant and doesn't smell cheap or alcoholic.
    Glad it worked out for you.
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    Wanted to bump this as I recently purchased an Aoud Leather by Montale International Design, and it's a much, much weaker scent than the Montale Paris version. I sprayed it 4 hours ago and it's pretty much all gone. I also find it funny that their website is nothing more than a parked domain:

    montale-intl-design.com

    I don't think I'll be dealing with Montale International Design again. A $35 deal for Black Aoud is definitely too good to be true. Thanks for the tips on how to spot them by the bottle.

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    Did you get that aoud leather from khalid?
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    This link from the Montale Paris site is based in New Jersey. http://www.europerfumes.com/
    I don't know how reliable they are as I've never used them, but would if there's some good feedback.
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    Default Re: Montale Black Aoud (2014 Aoud Collection by Montale International Design)

    Quote Originally Posted by SexySmells View Post
    This link from the Montale Paris site is based in New Jersey. http://www.europerfumes.com/
    I don't know how reliable they are as I've never used them, but would if there's some good feedback.
    They are the main and sole authorized distributor for Montale fragrances in the United States. They supply MinNY, Aedes de Venustas, Parfum 1, Perfumeshope in Scottsdale
    and many more shops big and small across the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ILikePeeps View Post
    I recently noticed lower prices on stuff from that seller, not sure why. I received 2x Aoud & Pine. Took a while to arrive, but there may be a faster shipping option(?) or whatever.

    I did an order via eBay on Oct 29th (prior to the recent price lowering), and package arrived maybe November 19th.

    I never actually got a tracking number to where I could actually SEE tracking stuff going on; there was a number (reference number?) there, but I wasn't able to 'track' with it.

    Package just ended up arriving one day.

    My Aoud & Pine's:
    How is longevity and projection on this one? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by hednic View Post
    They are the main and sole authorized distributor for Montale fragrances in the United States. They supply MinNY, Aedes de Venustas, Parfum 1, Perfumeshope in Scottsdale
    and many more shops big and small across the US.
    Good to know. Thanks for that info. Now, I'm confident to purchase.
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    Default Re: Montale Black Aoud (2014 Aoud Collection by Montale International Design)

    Quote Originally Posted by Wheredjaredgo View Post
    How is longevity and projection on this one? Thanks
    I have the original from late 2011 early 2012. I find longevity very good as well as projection. i would imagine that this one is pretty much the same.
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    Default Re: Montale Black Aoud (2014 Aoud Collection by Montale International Design)

    Hednic, what is your opinion on the international desighn do you own any montale by ID?
    I have read some reviewers on fragrantica calling them fake montales.
    Lately there is a lot montales ID for sale on line and most of them is about half the price of montale Paris.
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    Default Re: Montale Black Aoud (2014 Aoud Collection by Montale International Design)

    Quote Originally Posted by peter4ptv View Post
    Hednic, what is your opinion on the international desighn do you own any montale by ID?
    I have read some reviewers on fragrantica calling them fake montales.
    Lately there is a lot montales ID for sale on line and most of them is about half the price of montale Paris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter4ptv View Post
    Hednic, what is your opinion on the international desighn do you own any montale by ID?
    I have read some reviewers on fragrantica calling them fake montales.
    Lately there is a lot montales ID for sale on line and most of them is about half the price of montale Paris.
    Some of their offerings are unique to the montale ID for the middle eastern market (like aoud pine) and some of them are well regarded. I have heard that their "versions" of the Paris Montales are of lower quality, so if you have the choice between the two, you should go with the Paris version.

    From what I have seen, once you factor in shipping, a bottle of ID Black Aoud or Aoud Leather is about $70 dollars, whereas you can get Paris Black Aoud / Aoud Leather for around $100.

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    Default Re: Montale Black Aoud (2014 Aoud Collection by Montale International Design)

    Quote Originally Posted by peter4ptv View Post
    Hednic, what is your opinion on the international desighn do you own any montale by ID?
    I own all that are not duplicates of the ones released by Montale Paris - therefore all the exclusive ones released many years ago like Love Aoud and Arabian Night plus the current exclusive offerings like Brown Aoud, Rose Leather, Mr. Aoud etc.
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    Default Re: Montale Black Aoud (2014 Aoud Collection by Montale International Design)

    Quote Originally Posted by hednic View Post
    I own all that are not duplicates of the ones released by Montale Paris - therefore all the exclusive ones released many years ago like Love Aoud and Arabian Night plus the current exclusive offerings like Brown Aoud, Rose Leather, Mr. Aoud etc.
    Can you comment on those three?

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    Default Re: Montale Black Aoud (2014 Aoud Collection by Montale International Design)

    Quote Originally Posted by Vinrambo09 View Post
    Montales in general are watered down, but the Montale Paris Black Aoud have much better longevity than the Atmeh ones. Also the Abu Jouda says they Atmah Black Aouds smell different.
    Can anybody clarify more about “Black Aoud Paris” version compare to “Black Aoud International Design” version. I read here many different opinions some say it is same but watered down some say that is completely different scent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter4ptv View Post
    Can anybody clarify more about “Black Aoud Paris” version compare to “Black Aoud International Design” version. I read here many different opinions some say it is same but watered down some say that is completely different scent.
    Thank you.
    It might be this..

    Black Aoud (original, Paris)
    Black Aoud (original, Paris) - but 'watered down' (reformulated?)

    Black Aoud (Middle Eastern marketed type that abujouda might sell) - different smell than the 'original' Black Aoud - same in name, but not smell?

    And maybe there is/was also different strengths for 'original' Black Aoud - didn't a shop just open back up, somewhere in Paris? Are they doing the higher concentration thing again?
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    didn't a shop just open back up, somewhere in Paris? Are they doing the higher concentration thing again?
    Yes, will be there in a little over a week so will know for sure then.
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    Yes, will be there in a little over a week so will know for sure then.
    Oooh, please let us know if they're doing the higher concentration thing again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ILikePeeps View Post
    Oooh, please let us know if they're doing the higher concentration thing again!
    Will do.
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