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    Default New Escentric Molecules - Escentric 04 and Molecule 04

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    Niche line Escentric Molecules line will launch their fourth fragrance duo. Molecule 04 and Escentric 04 focus on Givaudan's sandalwood molecule Javanol; both fragrances were developed by perfumer and brand founder Geza Shoen.

    Molecule 04: "Imagine a sandalwood stripped of its heaviness to reveal a soft and sheer wood radiating silvery freshness. This is Javanol. And this is the heart, body and soul of Molecule 04."

    Escentric 04: "The heart of Escentric 04 is orris with a 'fresh soft rose' that Schoen composed from four different rose materials. The dry down is balsamic and woody, with Javanol in combination with the somewhat sweeter sandalwood molecule, Polysantol." Additional notes include pink grapefruit, bergamot, juniper berry, pink pepper, hedione, freesia, osmanthus, mastic, labdanum, iso e super, musk, ambroxan, castoreum and vetiver.

    Can't wait to try these

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    Default Re: New Escentric Molecules - Escentric 04 and Molecule 04

    Both of them do sound superb, thanks for sharing.

    Anyone know any other standout frags built around Javanol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmolive View Post
    Both of them do sound superb, thanks for sharing.

    Anyone know any other standout frags built around Javanol?
    Had the same question and did some research in the forums, came back with these:

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    Default Re: New Escentric Molecules - Escentric 04 and Molecule 04

    Quote Originally Posted by Palmolive View Post
    Both of them do sound superb, thanks for sharing.

    Anyone know any other standout frags built around Javanol?
    It's basically a synthetic sandalwood substitute, no? Javanol/Givaudan.
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    Javanol is a very strong, very diffusive Sandalwood type chemical. A little goes a very long way. I cannot think of any fragrance that is built around Javanol (apart from Escentric 04, apparently). Many other fragrances may contain some but I think none are built around it.

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    Default Re: New Escentric Molecules - Escentric 04 and Molecule 04

    Appreciate the info.
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    Default Re: New Escentric Molecules - Escentric 04 and Molecule 04

    Thanks for the info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedracer View Post
    Had the same question and did some research in the forums, came back with these:

    Boss Bottled
    Pure Poison Christian Dior
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarce View Post
    It's basically a synthetic sandalwood substitute, no? Javanol/Givaudan.
    Quote Originally Posted by David Ruskin View Post
    Javanol is a very strong, very diffusive Sandalwood type chemical. A little goes a very long way. I cannot think of any fragrance that is built around Javanol (apart from Escentric 04, apparently). Many other fragrances may contain some but I think none are built around it.
    Thanks folks, I remember reading about this molecule in Turins book and this thread reminded me that I'd intended to look into it at some point.

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    Default Re: New Escentric Molecules - Escentric 04 and Molecule 04

    I tried both (on paper) recently. Need to go back to try on skin. So far so good though - I am quite impressed by both. I am not sure which is which as I think I may have labelled my test strips incorrectly.

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    Default Re: New Escentric Molecules - Escentric 04 and Molecule 04

    Quote Originally Posted by David Ruskin View Post
    Javanol is a very strong, very diffusive Sandalwood type chemical. A little goes a very long way. I cannot think of any fragrance that is built around Javanol (apart from Escentric 04, apparently). Many other fragrances may contain some but I think none are built around it.
    Thanks for that, David. Looking at the description of E04, it seems this one has the works in it - Iso E Super, Ambrox, Hedione. At least, that's what EM's marketing blurb says. I wonder which ingredient has the largest proportion in the juice.

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    For those interested, Escentric 04 contains 3% Javanol (https://www.escentric.com/blog/) which is pretty tame compared to some other perfumes out there.

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    Default Re: New Escentric Molecules - Escentric 04 and Molecule 04

    Quote Originally Posted by gandhajala View Post
    For those interested, Escentric 04 contains 3% Javanol (https://www.escentric.com/blog/) which is pretty tame compared to some other perfumes out there.
    Many thanks for that - very useful!

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    Tried Escentric 04. Nice, but that's a typical pink fruity floral fragrance that you can find in the section of womens designers perfumery. On a feminine side.
    A lot of candy grapefruit at the beginning, than some peony flowers and Javanol at the end. However, it's not a Javanol bomb, it is used in the conventional amount.
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    Default Re: New Escentric Molecules - Escentric 04 and Molecule 04

    Quote Originally Posted by AntonPan View Post
    Tried Escentric 04. Nice, but that's a typical pink fruity floral fragrance that you can find in the section of womens designers perfumery. On a feminine side.
    A lot of candy grapefruit at the beginning, than some peony flowers and Javanol at the end. However, it's not a Javanol bomb, it is used in the conventional amount.
    You are quite right, Anton. I tried them both again on skin and on paper. The Escentric 04 is clearly the one with a zing note throughout. Something like grapefruit would be a good description. I opted against this one, although it's probably just a "nice", inoffensive scent.

    Molecule 04 though was a totally different concept. I wouldn't class it as "creamy" as per the description (although I should say due to a rather unseasonal virus, I have a reduced sense of smell). It's quite fresh and woody to say the least. I could smell the card I sprayed it on from the other side of the room. Much stronger than the other molecules in the series.

    I have a small travel size bottle on the way and will report back.

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    Default Re: New Escentric Molecules - Escentric 04 and Molecule 04

    Tried both of them as well and agree with you guys about how they differ.

    Escentric 04, to me, is light, woody, masculine and a bit dirty with a green (cannabis?) note in the opening that only sticks around for the first few hours. Molecule 04 is creamy, sweet and woody, with mega-strong projection and longevity.

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    Default Re: New Escentric Molecules - Escentric 04 and Molecule 04

    I want to test Escentric 04.

    It made Candy Perfume Boy blog's Top 2017 scent.
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    Default Re: New Escentric Molecules - Escentric 04 and Molecule 04

    I tried Molecule 04 yesterday, yes definitely a minimalist sandalwood note, isolated. It was hard to smell on my skin after a few minutes. I would like to give this a full wearing again.

    The Javanol definitely smells familiar. Maybe smelled it in Wonderwood? Or Blue Santal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
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    The Javanol definitely smells familiar. Maybe smelled it in Wonderwood?
    Yes, very prominent in Wonderwood.

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    Default Re: New Escentric Molecules - Escentric 04 and Molecule 04

    I also detect a Javanol note in the extreme base / dry down on Sycomore

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    Default Re: New Escentric Molecules - Escentric 04 and Molecule 04

    Quote Originally Posted by gandhajala View Post
    Yes, very prominent in Wonderwood.
    Thought so! Thanks.
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    Default Re: New Escentric Molecules - Escentric 04 and Molecule 04

    Escentric 04 is a disgusting pile of juniper.

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    Default Re: New Escentric Molecules - Escentric 04 and Molecule 04

    While I’ve never smelled Javanol, for some reason I associate it with that smooth, almost plush and plasticky (in terms of texture) sandalwood note in Wonderwood. I’m quite fond of it, and it is sometimes used very skillfully in sandalwood accords.
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