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    Thanks for posting the link. Interesting, this seems to be the first time I hear Inverno Russo described as sugary sweet. Has anyone else had that experience?
    I didn't find Inverno Russo sweet, nor do I find Siberian Musk sweet. At least not the kind of syrupy sweet like Flux de Fleur's opening to me. I also get a chocolate note in Inverno Russo especially during the first hour, but not in the candy sweet way, rather a buttery, unctuous texture with a deep bittersweet that reminds me of dark chcoclate.
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    I'm having difficulty describing the AA but the clove note isn't domineering. It does set this composition in a new england perspective, I'm thinking Maine or Connecticut; it combines well with the ambergris and produces the smell of cake that I didn't expect from the reviews here. If one could switch the clove with either juniper or allspice and jack up the orris root this would be very exceptional. I do like it though. The cake is similar to a brittany-style sweet n salty.

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    ‘Sweet’ is such a tentative description, isn’t it? Not only are there varying levels of intensity in sweetness, the picture gets even more complicated when you consider the density/weight, texture and other modifiers related to the sweetness. For example, I do get a veneer of sweetness in Inverno Russo but it presents itself like a dusting (not ‘coating’/‘layer’) of icing sugar. Nothing overwhelming. exoticscents seemed to have detected something similar but chose to describe it as ‘powdery sweetness’. Starblind is indeed correct to highlight the difference lies more in the choice of descriptors we use to describe what is essentially the same scent accord.

    Siberian Musk has a similar warmth IMO but it is perfectly counterbalanced by the citrusy/piney elements.

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    @Valier, thanks for sharing that interesting perspective. Would you happen to know the name of this particular spiced ‘cake’? Is it a local favorite as I have not tried any cake as fragrantly spiced.

    I wore Atlantic Ambergris the other day and the clove note was tenacious as it was a little overbearing. I have not made up my mind about it yet but am hoping someone more familiar with white ambergris can chime in with the role it plays in scents in general and in Atlantic Ambergris in particular. (Yes, I’ve read Kafkaesque’s take).

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    From Russian Adam:-

    ...wanted to shed some light on the shaking bottle issue.
    the oils I used are all dissolved in perfumers alcohol.
    they can not form layers and separate over the time.
    however I also used harder materials like for instance deer musk and castoreum grains. those can never be disolved completely. despite the careful, gentle filtering (on purpose) after aging my perfumes tiny particles/ dust of deer musk, castoreum, ambergris still made it to the bottles. that is the reason why if one would let a bottle rest for a few days standing straight the tiny layer at the bottom may be formed. once you shake the bottle it appears clearly in a beautiful dusty strains spreading trough the bottle. this is actual raw materials, harder musk grains or ambergris dust. they may add to the scent but not significantly if bottle is shaken before aplication. However they add significantly to the aging process of the composition. with the time they continue to macerate or to be tinctured bringing layers of depth and strength to the composition.

    That is one of the benefits of mostly natural perfumes composed using natural musk and ambergris. Fully synthetic perfumes may go off after few years but these extracts will age and only gain power and richness, just like good quality vintage perfumes from the time when companies were still using natural musks...

  6. #666

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post
    @Valier, thanks for sharing that interesting perspective. Would you happen to know the name of this particular spiced ‘cake’? Is it a local favorite as I have not tried any cake as fragrantly spiced.

    I wore Atlantic Ambergris the other day and the clove note was tenacious as it was a little overbearing. I have not made up my mind about it yet but am hoping someone more familiar with white ambergris can chime in with the role it plays in scents in general and in Atlantic Ambergris in particular. (Yes, I’ve read Kafkaesque’s take).
    I think the Tonka and the ambergris are creating the cake smell. Gateau Breton is not normally a spiced affair as the accompaniments provide the flavoring. The clove was probably used as a wood facet but on my skin the ambergris and Tonka became a close second and made cake instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebeck View Post
    For those wanting samples STC has them all now, and so does strifeknot.

    It's going to be a tuff decision for me.

    Prices for 5ml decants:

    STC – Plus slow shipping - ----- STRIFEKNOT – includes fast shipping
    Atlantic Ambergris - $130.71 - or - $40.00
    Flux de Fleur - $130.71 -------- or - $45.50
    Inverno Russo - $130.71 ------ or - $40.00
    Oud Picante - $121.36 -------- -or - $35.00

    Also notice Flux de Fleur costs $50.00 more per bottle than AA and IV but your paying the higher price of Flux de Fleur for those two.
    Excuse me, I think I'm in need of counseling after being raped by those STC prices. You'll notice at least strifeknot's pricing is based on the bottle cost.
    Thank you so much Beck for pointing the price differences.
    Stife is also a fast shipper .
    You get your choices of colors in regards to the caps.
    He has awesome labels too for his glass splits.
    Myself I just ordered a 5ml of Oud Zen and a 5ml of Oud Picante.
    I have a 10ml of Oud Zen from strifeknot already from a previous bottle,
    and my bottle of Oud Picante from Russian Adam should be here today.

    Thank you to all the good and honest members here on Basenotes.
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    In reference to what Russian Adam says on post #665.

    I think if you don't shake first it's more significant than RA suggests. Also the cumulative effect of constantly spraying without shaking will change the scent profile quite a bit. Of course this is just my opinion, but it's something I learned over time, and stand by it.

    With the end of the sprayer resting on the bottom, you're constantly just spraying more of those dusty strains. Keep doing that next thing you know the perfumes has changed because all of the heavier materials have previously been sprayed.

    I just have one question. Do you shake your vinegar and oil salad dressing first? Of course you do. Then why not your perfume?

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    I agree with thebeck. If you want the aging/maceration process to continue in your bottle, it’s probably best not to spray them out ‘prematurely’. I do not know if shaking the bottle helps but if it keeps these heavier particles in the bottle for a while longer I guess it’s worth a shot. Isn’t it just great your favorite fragrance gets stronger with age?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post
    I agree with thebeck. If you want the aging/maceration process to continue in your bottle, it’s probably best not to spray them out ‘prematurely’. I do not know if shaking the bottle helps but if it keeps these heavier particles in the bottle for a while longer I guess it’s worth a shot. Isn’t it just great your favorite fragrance gets stronger with age?
    Or maybe less strong if you don't shake. You start asking yourself, where' the deer musk, castoreum, and ambergris. Suddenly after half the bottle is gone you begin to notice this perfume doesn't smell like it use to.You go to pour that salad dressing, and you realize only oil is left. Just the opposite of perfumes because you don't have a sprayer and pouring from the top.

    Even if this were to be my imagination. Shaking first is a cheap insurance policy for protecting the integrity of the scent until the last spray.

    Thanks for joining in Diamondflame.
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    Got my bottle of Oud Picante in the mail today
    Number 33
    Very happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBS1 View Post
    Got my bottle of Oud Picante in the mail today
    Number 33
    Very happy.
    Congrats on your bottle! Let us know if it smells a little different from the sample.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post
    Congrats on your bottle! Let us know if it smells a little different from the sample.
    Will do and thank you.
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    I finally tested the Atlantic Ambergris and its a confused scent. Whatever Adam was trying to achieve is not in harmony with my expectations. Art is so subjective. What are spices doing with Ambergris. I think clove no matter how unique it is can totally eat up other subtler nuances and this is what I experienced yesterday. The opening is undeniably sweet zesty mandarin/sweet bergamot.. whats it doing in a classic. It fades away in minutes and the Ambergris takes over a soft moist cloud of musky powderiness with only hints of wet coral reef. Then suddenly the cloves and mutmeg begin the dance of chaos. No matter how much the dusty oakmoss tries to make peace with them they wont settle down so Orris joins the powder party too and the chaos becomes a pandemic killing all the delicate florals in the way. However this intense spiciness calms down with time to leave on skin a powdery floral bouquet with hints of smoke from a beautiful myrrh and labdanum. The power of naturals is undeniable. They are so soothing to the nose. The perfume is definitely a floriental-fougere. Highly contrasting notes working out a compromise. On skin it is troublesome but in the air the wafts are far more pleasing and actually nice but nowhere close to the brilliance of Siberian Musk and Ottoman Empire. White Ambergris could have been handled better. All hope is lost ? No. I had a similar opinion about the chaos going on inside my Oud Zen bottle. Being the patient Oud lover I am, I waited for it to age. And after a gap of 6 months or so. It has become a rave inducing scent. A scent worthy of keeping in the perfume museums. Lol. So I have ordered my bottle anyway. Thats the tricky part with Naturals. You never know what the ultimate result is going to be. In my humble experience I can really say the dynamics of such thick concotions really cannot be gauged so easily. Ambergris is a champion of agi g. I will put this bottle aside for a few months or so and wait for the notes to settle down. Thank you and have a good day folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudweasel View Post
    Ok, so upon further wearing, I’ve done a complete about turn on Inverno Russo - finally got my head around it and love it. I think I was simply expecting something different and was initially surprised/shocked.

    Anyway, have now ordered three of the four (AA, FdF and IR). Decided that FdF wasn’t too femme after all ;-)
    Well, this is now getting silly... having already done one u-turn and decided that I like IR, I’ve now had more opportunity to test out Oud Picante and have added it to my order. On my first wearing, all I got was cumin overload (a note I can be overly sensitive to), but on subsequent wearings, I’ve barely noticed it, as it’s simply blended perfectly with the rest of the spices - go figure!

    So, my initial concerns that I’d end up with all four have proven right...!!!

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    I have a sample of Siberian Musk ordered, and based on what I've read about it, I am very excited to try it out. Unfortunately, finding a full bottle also sounds next to impossible. Ah well...I hope to enjoy my sample!
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    @Scent Detective. Enjoy (sample) and weep (no longer in production). Life’s like that sometimes.

    Thank you, Nikhil for the review on Atlantic Ambergris . It seems this particular fragrance had many of us confounded. Expectations went quickly out of the window and the landing was hard. I had half-expected a far subtler scent, perhaps something reminiscent of a piece of driftwood washed ashore after weeks afloat in the sea. The clovey fougere-ish facet took me by surprise.

    The other day I wore 2 sprays of Flux de Fleur and went to work. Strangely the florals were muted this time, hardly made an appearance in the opening minutes. All I got was the floral incense notes of agarbatti as though I’d spent the day in a Hindu temple. While the woody-smoky-ambery body was nice enough, I missed the jamine and white floral brighter notes.

    Still have Oud Picante left to smell. I don’t know if I should feel disappointed or relieved over the fact that ‘love at first/second sniff’ didn’t happen this time around. Just as well I went with 10 ml decants. Let’s see if I feel differently once these fragrances have matured with age. But these are quality constructs so I’m happy they still found some fans like Mudweasel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post
    @Scent Detective. Enjoy (sample) and weep (no longer in production). Life’s like that sometimes.

    Thank you, Nikhil for the review on Atlantic Ambergris . It seems this particular fragrance had many of us confounded. Expectations went quickly out of the window and the landing was hard. I had half-expected a far subtler scent, perhaps something reminiscent of a piece of driftwood washed ashore after weeks afloat in the sea. The clovey fougere-ish facet took me by surprise.

    The other day I wore 2 sprays of Flux de Fleur and went to work. Strangely the florals were muted this time, hardly made an appearance in the opening minutes. All I got was the floral incense notes of agarbatti as though I’d spent the day in a Hindu temple. While the woody-smoky-ambery body was nice enough, I missed the jamine and white floral brighter notes.

    Still have Oud Picante left to smell. I don’t know if I should feel disappointed or relieved over the fact that ‘love at first/second sniff’ didn’t happen this time around. Just as well I went with 10 ml decants. Let’s see if I feel differently once these fragrances have matured with age. But these are quality constructs so I’m happy they still found some fans like Mudweasel.
    Ah. Dont worry my dear friend. Naturals change a lot. Just let em age. With artificial molecules the composition is easy to control. I have bought all 4 bottles too just becuase he has used some really precious materials. Green Hojari/Loban/Olibanum is so so special. Fossilised amber dry distillate. Lets wait for some magic to happen to my bottles. Oud Zen really changed its character. Btw my bottle is no.1 :-) and Siberian Musk no.4. Purely based on first hand personal experience I feel these scents will benefit from aging for sure. Our impressions with Ambergris based perfumes widely comes from use of mid grade or low grade material. White Ambergris hasnt woven its magic as yet. It eventually will.

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    I've retried the AA (house is frigid today), the cake accord has ended; its the tonka after all, now what I'm getting is the pine I didn't smell last time warmed with a little clove followed by driftwood in the background. Some floral-ness from the champaca as well, loads better than last time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valier View Post
    I've retried the AA (house is frigid today), the cake accord has ended; its the tonka after all, now what I'm getting is the pine I didn't smell last time warmed with a little clove followed by driftwood in the background. Some floral-ness from the champaca as well, loads better than last time.
    That's really good to hear.
    Thank you.
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    Default Re: Areej le Doré : The Official Discussion Thread

    Areej Le Dore (now available) at LuckyScent

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    Oud Picante is listed for $285

    Here's the link.
    https://www.luckyscent.com/brand/784/areej-le-dore
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    Thanks for the link, JBS1. I see the marked up prices. I wonder what is Luckyscent’s cut...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post
    Thanks for the link, JBS1. I see the marked up prices. I wonder what is Luckyscent’s cut...
    LuckyScent has the FREESHIP Code
    So it works out as the same price as it would with EMS shipped directly from Russian Adam.
    The good news could be that we here in the US might get our samples from LuckyScent.
    Much faster shipping times, but it might be a couple bucks more in shipping as compared to STC.
    STC might still have deacants, but I get mine from strifeknot here on basenotes.
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    It's great that Russian Adam has a U.S. distributor now, but it's a shame about the marked up price. It's still cheaper buying directly from the house if getting more than one bottle.
    Rare, vintage, and niche off-site sales.
    Big list of niche splits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strifeknot View Post
    It's great that Russian Adam has a U.S. distributor now, but it's a shame about the marked up price. It's still cheaper buying directly from the house if getting more than one bottle.
    You wanna talk about marked up prices , take a look at how much they charge for Heeley's Eau Sacree .
    Here they charge $230. You can get it directly from Heeley for 140 euros .
    Yes there is a conversion rate, but with that,plus shipping, it came to just under $180.
    Heeley sent a bunch a sprayer samples with my order too.
    $180 is actually a lot for Eau Scaree, but $230 is ,well you can fill in the blank stife .
    Right now the AUD to USD conversion rate is in our favor.
    Looking for some boutiques because of this.
    Seriously thinking about Amber Absolutely .
    I am mentioning this , for it keeps with the thread/stream.
    Yes, it's cheaper in many ways, because what they charge us here, to buy niche from the houses themselves over there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBS1 View Post
    You wanna talk about marked up prices , take a look at how much they charge for Heeley's Eau Sacree .
    Here they charge $230. You can get it directly from Heeley for 140 euros .
    Yes there is a conversion rate, but with that,plus shipping, it came to just under $180.
    Heeley sent a bunch a sprayer samples with my order too.
    $180 is actually a lot for Eau Scaree, but $230 is ,well you can fill in the blank stife .
    Right now the AUD to USD conversion rate is in our favor.
    Looking for some boutiques because of this.
    Seriously thinking about Amber Absolutely .
    I am mentioning this , for it keeps with the thread/stream.
    Yes, it's cheaper in many ways, because what they charge us here, to buy niche from the houses themselves over there.
    Nine times out of ten, it's cheaper cutting out the middleman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vmaster View Post
    Nine times out of ten, it's cheaper cutting out the middleman.
    Very true, although you can get Eau Sacree for around that price from the European boutiques .
    I just liked Heeley's deal a little better.
    I just hope we can get are samples of Arrej Le Dore from LuckyScent.
    I am glad for Russian getting this deal, for I was worried about a possible inventory build.
    That said, Oud Zen is sold out.
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    I've just had Oud Picante and Inverno Russo delivered

    No. 31 & 63

    Can't wait to wear them

    Oud Picante is extremely dense, it looks like a mixture, a suspension

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    I received my splits from strifeknot and am wearing Inverno Russo today. So far, I'm loving it! Definitely related to Siberian Musk, but the oud gives it a fantastic bite. I understand the "butt" references, but I personally love that barnyard, goat-like accord.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowtone View Post
    I received my splits from strifeknot and am wearing Inverno Russo today. So far, I'm loving it! Definitely related to Siberian Musk, but the oud gives it a fantastic bite. I understand the "butt" references, but I personally love that barnyard, goat-like accord.
    Thrilled you love the IR, yellowtone! I think its animalic nature will make it perfect for oud-lovers.
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